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Sorry it's getting so confusing!

My original search in FamilySearch was for a marriage of the parents, Robert and Mary, c.1795 and the Robert that this thread has concentrated on is their son

i wonder if this is connected somehow


Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1535-1812 about Mary Patchett
Name: Mary Patchett
Baptism Date: 5 Sep 1802
Baptism Place: Clifton upon Dunsmore, Warwickshire, England
Father: Robert Patchett
Mother: Mary Patchett

Yes Maddie, this is one of the siblings

I am glag I am not the only one suffering grey cell fatigue - If only I wasn't a family history addict....

snap and believe it or not i am a patchett but from yorkshire stock :-) :-)

How far back do you need to go to get a connection through the counties? :-0

generation by generation i think
maddie

Perhaps you will let me know when you have achieved it Maddie = rather your grey cells than mine!

By the way, the Fuchsia,( Lillian Annettes), as pictured, was 'born and bred'. in Yorkshire

Hi Frances
I have found this, could it be Robert Senior


England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Robert Patchet
Name: Robert Patchet
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 22 May 1768
Baptism Place: Clifton Upon Dunsmore,Warwick,England
Father: Robert Patchet
Mother: Eleanor
FHL Film Number: 548387

still can't find a marriage

Robert Senior with Robert Junior

UK, Poll Books and Electoral Registers, 1538-1893 about Robert Patchett
Name: Robert Patchett
Poll Year: 1837
Parish or Rectory: Clifton-Upon-Dunsmore
County: Warwickshire


UK, Poll Books and Electoral Registers, 1538-1893 about Robert Patchett Junior
Name: Robert Patchett Junior
Poll Year: 1837
Parish or Rectory: Clifton-Upon-Dunsmore
County: Warwickshire

and possilbly yhe father of Robert born 1768


First name(s) ROBERT
Last name PATCHETT
Birth year 1740
Death year 1817
Age 77
Burial year 1817
Burial day 28
Burial month 11
Place CLIFTON ON DUNSMORE
Church description ST MARY
Church denomination ANGLICAN
County Warwickshire
Country England
Record set National Burial Index for England & Wales
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

maddie

?????

Robert Patchet

Name: Robert Patchet
Spouse's Name: Eleanor Behn
Event Date: 02 Nov 1765
Event Place: Newbold On Avon,Warwick,England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M04562-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 0555375,


Eleanor Patchett
England, Warwickshire Parish Registers
Name: Eleanor Patchett
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 21 Mar 1805
Event Place: Clifton-upon-Dunsmore, Warwickshire, England
Gender: Female
Spouse's Name: Robert Patchett
GS Film number: 548387 , Digital Folder Number: 4290805 , Image Number: 00362

Thank you for your continued diligence Maddie. Eleanor seems to have been a very popular girls name back then. I have found 4 families with parents Job Checkley and Eleanor within the first years of the 19th century, in census but none of them lay claim to Charles Checkley c.1842 with father Job at his wedding - exasperating isn't it!
How far back have you got with your Yorkshire Patchetts?

got back to 1586. Luckily there is a very helpful document Malcolm Bulls Calderdale that could be verified and helped sort out who belonged to whom
best wishes

is this charles

1851 England Census about Charles Checkley
Name: Charles Checkley
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Job Checkley
Mother's name: Elenor Checkley
Gender: Male
Where born: Napton, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Napton on the Hill
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Southam
Sub-registration district: Southam
ED, institution, or vessel: 14c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 23
Piece: 2077
Folio: 282
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Job Checkley 45
Elenor Checkley 43
Charles Checkley 13
Bethnel Checkley 9
Emma E Checkley 8
Stephen H Checkley 6
Frederick Checkley 11
Lucy E V Checkley 2


England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about Job Cheekley
Name: Job Cheekley
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 14 Oct 1828
Marriage Place: Clifton Upon Dunsmore,Warwick,England
Spouse: Eleanor Patchett
FHL Film Number: 0548387, 0576942


Eleanor Patchet
England Births and Christenings
Name: Eleanor Patchet
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 11 Jul 1809
Christening Place: CLIFTON UPON DUNSMORE,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 10 Jul 1809
Father's Name: Robert Patchet
Mother's Name: Mary
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04190-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 548387

maddie

Thanks Maddie for this Charles, whom I have seen several times but his age doesn't match later census when I have the guy, working back from the known:-

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
18, Carlton Mount, Leeds, Yorkshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Checkley Head Married Male 58 1843 Armourer Warwickshire, England Transcription
Eliza Checkley Wife Married Female 51 1850 - Bedworth, Warwickshire, England Transcription
Francis W Checkley Son Single Male 21 1880 Saddler Ireland Transcription
Walter A Checkley Son Single Male 18 1883 House Decorator Leeds, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Herbert Checkley Son Single Male 16 1885 Butcher Leeds, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Marian Checkley Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Tea Weigher & Packer Leeds, Yorkshire, England Transcription

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Checkley Head Married Male 48 1843 Armourer Sergeant Knapton, Warwickshire, England Transcription
Eliza Checkley Wife Married Female 41 1850 - Knapton, Warwickshire, England Transcription
Francis H Checkley Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Ireland Transcription
Walter A Checkley Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Leeds, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Herbert Checkley Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Leeds, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Marion Checkley Daughter - Female 4 1887 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England Transcription

Name: Charles Checkley occ Sergeant 22nd Regiment
Birth Year: abt 1842
Age: 30
Residence: Napton Warwickshire
Spouse Name: Eliza Grubb occ Domestic Servant
Spouse Age: 22
Residence: Bedworth
Marriage or Bann Date: 23 Jan 1872
Event Type: Marriage
Parish: Bedworth
Father Name: Job Checkley occ Labourer
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Grubb occ (something) Maker

Witnesses: Thomas Grubb and Mary Ann Grubb

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England

First name(s) Charles
Last name Checkley
Relationship -
Marital status Unmarried
Gender Male
Age 20
Birth year 1841
Occupation Private Soldier
Birth town -
Birth town as transcribed WARWICK NAPTON
Birth county -
Birth county as transcribed -
Birth place other as transcribed -
Street -
Parish Carisbrooke
City or borough Newport
County Hampshire

I don't know how to reconcile the difference in ages as it would be great to have the 1851 be right.

Frances

charle's service record is on Find my past site
wife Eliza Grubb
gives his birth year as 1840

ritish Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription
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First name(s) CHARLES
Last name CHECKLEY
Birth year 1840
Birth parish NAPTON ON THE HILL
Birth town SOUTHAM
Birth county WARWICKSHIRE
Birth country ENGLAND
Service number 1110
Rank -
Regiment Cheshire Regiment - 22nd Foot
Document Type Attestation
Attestation year 1860
Attestation Day 13
Attestation Month 8
Attestation age years 20
Attestation age months -
Attestation Corps 22nd Foot
Attestation service number 1110
Discharge Corps 22nd Foot
Series chelsea pensioners british army service records 1760-1913
Box 1914
Box Record Number 52
Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Record collection Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain


1871 Worldwide British Army Index - British Army Other Ranks & locations Transcription
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First name(s) Charles
Last name Checkley
Service number 1110
Rank Corporal
Unit or Regiment 1st Bn 22nd (Cheshire) Regiment of Foot
HQ location Kinsale, Ireland
Year 1871
Country Great Britain
National Archives reference WO 12/3933
Period 01/04/1871-30/06/1871
Record set 1871 Worldwide British Army Index - British Army Other Ranks & locations
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Record collection Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain


Chelsea Pensioners' discharge documents 1760-1887 Transcription
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First name(s) Charles
Last name Checkley
Birth year -
Birth parish -
Birth town -
Birth county -
Service number -
Rank -
Regiment Cheshire Regiment - 22nd Foot
Attestation year 1881
Attestation day 20
Attestation month December
Attestation age years -
Attestation age months -
Attestation corps -
Discharge corps Cheshire Regiment - 22nd Foot
Document type Discharge
Series WO121
Box 0232
Box record number -
Dataset title Chelsea Pensioners discharge documents 1760-1887
Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Record collection Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain

served 20 years and 159 days

can only find 2 others in 1851, one born Leamington and one Northampton.
Ages did vary, depends on who gave info to the enumerator

maddie

Thanks again Maddie. I have had another thought - dangerous I agree -

Births Dec 1840
Checkley Charles Warwick
16 471

I found this birth record a long while ago but at that time Registration was a new thing and the rules were not so strict.
Maybe it is the same Charles as :-

Name: Charles Checkley

Gender: Male
Christening Date: 21 Oct 1838
Christening Place: NAPTON ON THE HILL,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Job Checkley

Mother's Name: Eleanor (Patchett)

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04659-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 502292

so he wasn'y registered until he was 2. Would the certificate include this information do you know?
I'm keeping my fingers crossed ..........

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1346944?d=desc

(Baptism on above, possibly below)


Births Sep 1838 (>99%)
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CHECKLEY Charles Southam 16 410

Chris :)

(Reference)

Jacqueline Report 27 Nov 2014 15:57

Name: Charles Checkley
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 21 Oct 1838
Christening Place: NAPTON ON THE HILL,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Job Checkley
Mother's Name: Eleanor

Thanks Chris Ho. Jaqueline has just posted on the previos thread dealing with Gheckleys

My reply, which also answers Maddie#s posts on this thread :-

Thanks Jacqueline, my Registration of a 2yr old has been superseeded by :-

Births Sep 1838
CHECKLEY Charles Southam
16 410

and Southam is the District covering Napton. Looks like I can accept the 1851 you found for me some while ago and accept that Charles was very careless about his age when he joined the army and from then on.

Thank you all,
Frances

good luck
maddie

Thanks Maddie, so this puts Charles back in the Patchett clan