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Frances
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16 Dec 2014 10:43 |
Thanks Maddie, so this puts Charles back in the Patchett clan
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Maddie
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15 Dec 2014 18:47 |
good luck maddie
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Frances
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15 Dec 2014 17:00 |
Thanks Chris Ho. Jaqueline has just posted on the previos thread dealing with Gheckleys
My reply, which also answers Maddie#s posts on this thread :-
Thanks Jacqueline, my Registration of a 2yr old has been superseeded by :-
Births Sep 1838 CHECKLEY Charles Southam 16 410
and Southam is the District covering Napton. Looks like I can accept the 1851 you found for me some while ago and accept that Charles was very careless about his age when he joined the army and from then on.
Thank you all, Frances
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15 Dec 2014 16:33 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1346944?d=desc
(Baptism on above, possibly below)
Births Sep 1838 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------- CHECKLEY Charles Southam 16 410
Chris :)
(Reference)
Jacqueline Report 27 Nov 2014 15:57
Name: Charles Checkley Gender: Male Christening Date: 21 Oct 1838 Christening Place: NAPTON ON THE HILL,WARWICK,ENGLAND Father's Name: Job Checkley Mother's Name: Eleanor
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Frances
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15 Dec 2014 16:26 |
Thanks again Maddie. I have had another thought - dangerous I agree -
Births Dec 1840 Checkley Charles Warwick 16 471
I found this birth record a long while ago but at that time Registration was a new thing and the rules were not so strict. Maybe it is the same Charles as :-
Name: Charles Checkley
Gender: Male Christening Date: 21 Oct 1838 Christening Place: NAPTON ON THE HILL,WARWICK,ENGLAND Father's Name: Job Checkley
Mother's Name: Eleanor (Patchett)
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04659-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 502292
so he wasn'y registered until he was 2. Would the certificate include this information do you know? I'm keeping my fingers crossed ..........
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Maddie
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15 Dec 2014 14:39 |
charle's service record is on Find my past site wife Eliza Grubb gives his birth year as 1840
ritish Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription Print transcription View image Attach to tree First name(s) CHARLES Last name CHECKLEY Birth year 1840 Birth parish NAPTON ON THE HILL Birth town SOUTHAM Birth county WARWICKSHIRE Birth country ENGLAND Service number 1110 Rank - Regiment Cheshire Regiment - 22nd Foot Document Type Attestation Attestation year 1860 Attestation Day 13 Attestation Month 8 Attestation age years 20 Attestation age months - Attestation Corps 22nd Foot Attestation service number 1110 Discharge Corps 22nd Foot Series chelsea pensioners british army service records 1760-1913 Box 1914 Box Record Number 52 Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Category Military, armed forces & conflict Record collection Regimental & service records Collections from Great Britain
1871 Worldwide British Army Index - British Army Other Ranks & locations Transcription Print transcription Attach to tree First name(s) Charles Last name Checkley Service number 1110 Rank Corporal Unit or Regiment 1st Bn 22nd (Cheshire) Regiment of Foot HQ location Kinsale, Ireland Year 1871 Country Great Britain National Archives reference WO 12/3933 Period 01/04/1871-30/06/1871 Record set 1871 Worldwide British Army Index - British Army Other Ranks & locations Category Military, armed forces & conflict Record collection Regimental & service records Collections from Great Britain
Chelsea Pensioners' discharge documents 1760-1887 Transcription Print transcription View image Attach to tree First name(s) Charles Last name Checkley Birth year - Birth parish - Birth town - Birth county - Service number - Rank - Regiment Cheshire Regiment - 22nd Foot Attestation year 1881 Attestation day 20 Attestation month December Attestation age years - Attestation age months - Attestation corps - Discharge corps Cheshire Regiment - 22nd Foot Document type Discharge Series WO121 Box 0232 Box record number - Dataset title Chelsea Pensioners discharge documents 1760-1887 Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Category Military, armed forces & conflict Record collection Regimental & service records Collections from Great Britain
served 20 years and 159 days
can only find 2 others in 1851, one born Leamington and one Northampton. Ages did vary, depends on who gave info to the enumerator
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Frances
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15 Dec 2014 10:31 |
Thanks Maddie for this Charles, whom I have seen several times but his age doesn't match later census when I have the guy, working back from the known:-
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 18, Carlton Mount, Leeds, Yorkshire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Charles Checkley Head Married Male 58 1843 Armourer Warwickshire, England Transcription Eliza Checkley Wife Married Female 51 1850 - Bedworth, Warwickshire, England Transcription Francis W Checkley Son Single Male 21 1880 Saddler Ireland Transcription Walter A Checkley Son Single Male 18 1883 House Decorator Leeds, Yorkshire, England Transcription Herbert Checkley Son Single Male 16 1885 Butcher Leeds, Yorkshire, England Transcription Marian Checkley Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Tea Weigher & Packer Leeds, Yorkshire, England Transcription
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Charles Checkley Head Married Male 48 1843 Armourer Sergeant Knapton, Warwickshire, England Transcription Eliza Checkley Wife Married Female 41 1850 - Knapton, Warwickshire, England Transcription Francis H Checkley Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Ireland Transcription Walter A Checkley Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Leeds, Yorkshire, England Transcription Herbert Checkley Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Leeds, Yorkshire, England Transcription Marion Checkley Daughter - Female 4 1887 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Name: Charles Checkley occ Sergeant 22nd Regiment Birth Year: abt 1842 Age: 30 Residence: Napton Warwickshire Spouse Name: Eliza Grubb occ Domestic Servant Spouse Age: 22 Residence: Bedworth Marriage or Bann Date: 23 Jan 1872 Event Type: Marriage Parish: Bedworth Father Name: Job Checkley occ Labourer Spouse Father Name: Thomas Grubb occ (something) Maker
Witnesses: Thomas Grubb and Mary Ann Grubb
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England
First name(s) Charles Last name Checkley Relationship - Marital status Unmarried Gender Male Age 20 Birth year 1841 Occupation Private Soldier Birth town - Birth town as transcribed WARWICK NAPTON Birth county - Birth county as transcribed - Birth place other as transcribed - Street - Parish Carisbrooke City or borough Newport County Hampshire
I don't know how to reconcile the difference in ages as it would be great to have the 1851 be right.
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14 Dec 2014 14:47 |
got back to 1586. Luckily there is a very helpful document Malcolm Bulls Calderdale that could be verified and helped sort out who belonged to whom best wishes
is this charles
1851 England Census about Charles Checkley Name: Charles Checkley Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Son Father's Name: Job Checkley Mother's name: Elenor Checkley Gender: Male Where born: Napton, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Napton on the Hill Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Southam Sub-registration district: Southam ED, institution, or vessel: 14c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 23 Piece: 2077 Folio: 282 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Job Checkley 45 Elenor Checkley 43 Charles Checkley 13 Bethnel Checkley 9 Emma E Checkley 8 Stephen H Checkley 6 Frederick Checkley 11 Lucy E V Checkley 2
England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about Job Cheekley Name: Job Cheekley Gender: Male Marriage Date: 14 Oct 1828 Marriage Place: Clifton Upon Dunsmore,Warwick,England Spouse: Eleanor Patchett FHL Film Number: 0548387, 0576942
Eleanor Patchet England Births and Christenings Name: Eleanor Patchet Gender: Female Christening Date: 11 Jul 1809 Christening Place: CLIFTON UPON DUNSMORE,WARWICK,ENGLAND Birth Date: 10 Jul 1809 Father's Name: Robert Patchet Mother's Name: Mary Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04190-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 548387
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14 Dec 2014 14:01 |
Thank you for your continued diligence Maddie. Eleanor seems to have been a very popular girls name back then. I have found 4 families with parents Job Checkley and Eleanor within the first years of the 19th century, in census but none of them lay claim to Charles Checkley c.1842 with father Job at his wedding - exasperating isn't it! How far back have you got with your Yorkshire Patchetts?
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14 Dec 2014 12:07 |
?????
Robert Patchet
Name: Robert Patchet Spouse's Name: Eleanor Behn Event Date: 02 Nov 1765 Event Place: Newbold On Avon,Warwick,England Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M04562-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 0555375,
Eleanor Patchett England, Warwickshire Parish Registers Name: Eleanor Patchett Event Type: Burial Event Date: 21 Mar 1805 Event Place: Clifton-upon-Dunsmore, Warwickshire, England Gender: Female Spouse's Name: Robert Patchett GS Film number: 548387 , Digital Folder Number: 4290805 , Image Number: 00362
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14 Dec 2014 11:59 |
Hi Frances I have found this, could it be Robert Senior
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Robert Patchet Name: Robert Patchet Gender: Male Baptism Date: 22 May 1768 Baptism Place: Clifton Upon Dunsmore,Warwick,England Father: Robert Patchet Mother: Eleanor FHL Film Number: 548387
still can't find a marriage
Robert Senior with Robert Junior
UK, Poll Books and Electoral Registers, 1538-1893 about Robert Patchett Name: Robert Patchett Poll Year: 1837 Parish or Rectory: Clifton-Upon-Dunsmore County: Warwickshire
UK, Poll Books and Electoral Registers, 1538-1893 about Robert Patchett Junior Name: Robert Patchett Junior Poll Year: 1837 Parish or Rectory: Clifton-Upon-Dunsmore County: Warwickshire
and possilbly yhe father of Robert born 1768
First name(s) ROBERT Last name PATCHETT Birth year 1740 Death year 1817 Age 77 Burial year 1817 Burial day 28 Burial month 11 Place CLIFTON ON DUNSMORE Church description ST MARY Church denomination ANGLICAN County Warwickshire Country England Record set National Burial Index for England & Wales Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Record collection Deaths & burials Collections from Great Britain
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Frances
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13 Dec 2014 16:21 |
Perhaps you will let me know when you have achieved it Maddie = rather your grey cells than mine!
By the way, the Fuchsia,( Lillian Annettes), as pictured, was 'born and bred'. in Yorkshire
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Maddie
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13 Dec 2014 16:05 |
generation by generation i think maddie
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Frances
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13 Dec 2014 16:03 |
How far back do you need to go to get a connection through the counties? :-0
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Maddie
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13 Dec 2014 15:58 |
snap and believe it or not i am a patchett but from yorkshire stock :-) :-)
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Frances
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13 Dec 2014 15:50 |
Yes Maddie, this is one of the siblings
I am glag I am not the only one suffering grey cell fatigue - If only I wasn't a family history addict....
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13 Dec 2014 15:47 |
i wonder if this is connected somehow
Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1535-1812 about Mary Patchett Name: Mary Patchett Baptism Date: 5 Sep 1802 Baptism Place: Clifton upon Dunsmore, Warwickshire, England Father: Robert Patchett Mother: Mary Patchett
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Frances
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13 Dec 2014 15:46 |
Sorry it's getting so confusing!
My original search in FamilySearch was for a marriage of the parents, Robert and Mary, c.1795 and the Robert that this thread has concentrated on is their son
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13 Dec 2014 15:41 |
Uh oh! Methinks my little grey cells aren't working today. I'm getting my generations mixed up, aren't I? The Mary who died in 1840 was Robert's mother not his first wife?
Right!
Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Robert Patchet Name: Robert Patchet Parish: Clifton upon Dunsmore Baptism Date: 24 Oct 1813 Father's Name: Robert Patchet Mother's name: Mary Patchet
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13 Dec 2014 15:33 |
This isn't making sense!
Mary died 1840 but Robert married Sarah 1839 and had a child with her in 1838.
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