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Sandra
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12 Oct 2014 12:21 |
Hi I would like any information on Dalligan family please. My grandmother was Elizabeth Dalligan born 1889 Walworth, and her parents were Lawrence Dalligan and Elizabeth Ann Roberts. Thank you Sandra
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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12 Oct 2014 12:30 |
You need to specify what you are looking for as any info is a very open request
Where have you looked for the family and how did you get back to them :-)
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Helen
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12 Oct 2014 12:33 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 27 Salisbury Street Bermondsey, Bermondsey, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Laurence Dalligan Head Married Male 45 1866 Walworth Cooper At Glue Works Transcription Elizabeth Dalligan Wife - Female 43 1868 Peckham Laurence Dalligan Visitor - Male 18 1893 Walworth William Dalligan Son - Male 13 1898 Walworth Dennis Dalligan Son - Male 11 1900 Walworth Julia Dalligan Daughter - Female 9 1902 Bermondsey
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12 Oct 2014 12:34 |
Her marriage
Elizabeth Dalligan Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Age: 20 Spouse: William Ernest Sidney Allen Spouse Age: 22 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 11 Apr 1909 Parish: St Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey Borough: Southwark Father Name: Lawrence Dalligan Spouse Father: John Allen Register Type: Parish Register
He was 22 and lived at 83 Grange Walk he was a mechanic his father John was deceased and a painter.
She was 20 and lived at 27 Parker Buildings father Lawrence was a cooper. Witnesses were Stephen Charles Collins and Florence May Allen
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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12 Oct 2014 12:35 |
Here is the family on the 1901 census
Name: Lawrence Dalligan Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Elizabeth Dalligan Birth Place: Walworth, London, England Civil Parish: Bermondsey Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 4 Tanners street
Occupation:cooper
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration District: Bermondsey ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 390 Folio: 61 Page Number: 23 Household schedule number: 146 Household Members: Name Age Lawrence Dalligan 38 Elizabeth Dalligan 31 Elizabeth Dalligan 12 Lawrence Dalligan 8 William Dalligan 3 Dennis Dalligan 1
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 390; Folio: 61; Page: 23.
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12 Oct 2014 12:36 |
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Lawrence Dalligan (Bachelor) Cooper (93 Barlow Street) Estimated Birth Year:abt 1865 Age:24 Spouse: Elizabeth Ann Roberts (Spinster) 298 East Street Spouse Age:20 Record Type:Marriage Event Date:5 Aug 1889 Parish:All Saints, Walworth Borough:Southwark Father Name:Henry Dalligan (Deceased) Cooper Spouse Father:William Roberts (Copper Plate Printer) Register Type:Parish Register Witnesses: William Roberts and John Thomas Roberts
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12 Oct 2014 12:46 |
1911 Name: Elizabeth Allen Age in 1911: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: WALWORTH, England Civil Parish: Bermondsey County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 16 Alscot Rd, Bermondsey Marital Status: Married Years Married: 2 Estimated Marriage Year: 1909 Occupation: SORTER Registration district: St Olave (Bermondsey) Registration District Number: 24 Sub-registration district: Bermondsey ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Piece: 1886 Household Members: Name Age William Allen 22 ...Head Sheet metal worker Elizabeth Allen 21 ... wife rag Sorter Harriett Allen 50 ... mother widow (married 37 yrs 7 children 4 living 3 died Florence Allen 24... sister Robert Allen 18 ... Brother William Allen 1 ... son 1 year 8 months
Interestingly it also has John Allen, Father, Pinter Iron Works this is all crossed out
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12 Oct 2014 12:48 |
Ronald, Roy and Tom all have Elizabeth in their trees on here. Have you been in touch with them yet?
Between 1911 and 1920 there are another possible 5 children born to William and Elizabeth
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Jacqueline
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12 Oct 2014 13:01 |
How much research have you been able to do yourself?
You will be able to find both of Elizabeth's parents with their families on the 1871 and 1881 census, which are FREE and IN FULL on
https://familysearch.org/search
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Potty
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12 Oct 2014 13:28 |
Not sure about this one, but father Andrew is Cooper:
1871 England Census Lawrence Dallagan
ge:8 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1863 Relation:Lodger Son (Lodger's Son) Gender:Male Where born:Bermondsey, Surrey, England Civil Parish:St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey Ecclesiastical parish:St James County/Island:London Country:England Registration district:St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district:St James Bermondsey Timothy Bryan 35 Julia Bryan 30 Mary Bryan 5 Timothy Bryan 3 Eliza Bryan 2 Months Andrew Dallagan 36, b Ireland, married Amrah Dallagan 13 , b Bermondsey - could be Sarah on the image Lawrence Dallagan 8
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Potty
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12 Oct 2014 14:37 |
Can see your problem, Sandra - I cannot find Lawrence before his marriage and not many Dallagans, however many variations tried, on any census.
I can find a Lawrence b1876, but that is too late to be your Lawrence. His father, Lawrence, was also a cooper and the family were living in the same area (Bermondsey). That Lawrence was b1843 in Ireland and is on the censuses as Delagan and Dalagan. His marriage is on Ancestry but the column for father's names is blank for both him and his wife.
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12 Oct 2014 16:21 |
On the original of his marriage to Elizabeth on 05/08/1889, Lawrence's father was Henry a Cooper, deceased, Lawrence 24 was a cooper of 93 Barlow Street and Elizabeth Ann Roberts was 20 and from 298 East Street her father was William a copper plate printer. Witnesses were William Roberts and John Thomas Roberts
The marriage was at All Saints Church, Newington
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12 Oct 2014 17:34 |
This is sad and possibly part of the family tree somewhere
23/02/1929 Western Daily Press and other papers.
When Laurence Dalligan returned from work to his home in New Road Rotherhithe, London he found his wife Anna dead with the cut gas tube in her mouth and his son Lawrence aged 2 with his throat cut. Lawrence had his second birthday last week.
I can't find a marriage to an Anna or a death for her although I can find Lawrence 1927 - 1929
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I think that possibly 'Anna' was actually Hannah Buck born 1901 Rotherhithe and died March quarter 1929 St Olave same as baby Lawrence. Not married to Lawrence
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Sandra
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14 Oct 2014 16:59 |
Thanks very much for all your help on my Dalligan family Sandra
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Sandra
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10 Nov 2014 10:14 |
Hi again I am trying to find out father of Lawrence Dalligan born 1863 Newington as on his marriage certificate 1889 to Elizabeth Ann Roberts father is Henry Dalligan, deceased, cooper but on 1871 census Lawrence Dalligan is 8 and living with father Andrew Dalligan 36 born Ireland and Sarah Dalligan age 13. They are lodging in Bermondsey with Timothy Bryan and family. Thank you Sandra
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Potty
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10 Nov 2014 12:27 |
This could be the Andrew from the 1871 in 1881:
1881 England Census Andrew Dalligan
Age:54 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1827 Relationship to Head:Boarder Gender:Male Where born:Tipperrary, Ireland Civil Parish:Bermondsey County/Island:London Country:England Street address:2 Gonletons Bldgs Occupation:Cooper Registration district:St Olave Southwark Sub registration district:Leather Market ED, institution, or vessel:13 Piece:560 Folio:108 Page Number:34
Thomas Mafner 48 - It is Magner on the image and a tree on Ancestry has Andrew Dalligan & Eliza Magner as Lawrence's parents and Ancestry has banns for that marriage.
Catherine Mafner 52 Timothy Mafner 19 Thomas Mafner 16 Andrew Dalligan 54 There is another Daligan family with father Lawrence b1841 Tipperary, also a Cooper.
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Potty
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10 Nov 2014 12:41 |
Lawrence in 1881?
Name:Laurence Dallaghan Age:18 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1863 Relationship to Head:Militiaman Gender:Male Where born:Bermondsay, Surrey, England Civil Parish:Stoke County/Island:Surrey Country:England Street address:"Stoughton Barracks" Stoughton Guildford Occupation:Pte 2nd Royal Surrey Militia Registration district:Guildford Sub registration district:Guildford ED, institution, or vessel:Stoughton Barracks
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Mavis
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10 Nov 2014 16:44 |
A good chance this the Andrew Dallagan
from 1861 Census in Bermondsey
Name: Andrew Callaghan
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Callaghan
Gender: Male
Where born: Tipperary, Ireland
Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalen
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: Leather Market
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 279
Piece: 326
Folio: 40
Page Number: 46
Name
Andrew Callaghan 23 he is a cooper Eliza Callaghan 25 Ann Callaghan 2 >>>>>> Sarah ? John Callaghan 5/12 Laurence not born yet >>>>>>>>
is it a miss heard Dallagan ???
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Mavis
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10 Nov 2014 16:50 |
Andrew and Eliza Marriage
Name: Andrew Dalagan
Spouse: Eliza Magner
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Jan 1858
Parish: St Mary, Newington
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Dalagan
Spouse Father: Patrick Magner
Register Type: Parish Register
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Potty
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11 Nov 2014 11:58 |
Not finding Eliza before her marriage. This looks like the Magner family in 1871:
1871 England Census Thomas Maynor [Thomas Magner]
Age:41 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1830 Relation:Head Spouse's Name:Catherine Maynor Mother's name:Fredy Hennessy Looks like Judy on image Where born:Cork, Ireland Thomas Maynor 41 Catherine Maynor 43 b Cork Mary Maynor 17 David Mayner 13 Timothy Mayner 9 Thomas Mayner 6 Fredy Hennessy 72 b Cork; shown as unmarried; could possibly be Mary's mother.
Living in the same street (York Street, Southwark) are this family:
Denis Deligan 40 b Tipperary, Cooper Mary Deligan 41 b Cork Patrick Deligan 10 b London Julia Deligan 6 Denis Deligan 3
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