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UK, Register of Duties Paid for Apprentices' Indentures, 1710-1811 about Wm Cooke
Master's Name: Wm Cooke
Apprentice Name: Isaac Niblett
Residence Location: Minchinhampton, Gloucestershire
Payment Date: 11 Dec 1784
William Cooke was a baker.
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There is a document an Ancestry about the Nibletts. You will have to prove it yourself but it is a guideline. I will try to send a copy of the whole thing to you
Extract
Isaac from Bisley married Mary Franklin at Minchinhampton on Sep 8, 1798 and, although they christened a large family either there or in Rodborough, it seems they typified many in that period by only staying for a short time before moving on. The family comprised Isaac (R5) christened Sep 23, 1800, Priscilla christened Aug 25, 1805, Thomas (R6) born Jul 1813, Ann born May 1, 1819, Elizabeth christened May 8, 1828, and Sarah christened Apr 19, 1835. The last two seem incredible as Mary must have been in her mid 50’s when Sarah was born so that does seem unlikely. Isaac (R5) also married a Mary and it is more likely that both Elizabeth and Sarah and even Ann were their children born at Minchinhampton before the family moved to Cumbria. What prompted the move to Cumbria is unknown but a further three children were born at Kendal Thomas christened Nov, 10, 1841, Margaret christened Sep 17, 1843 and Agnes born 1845 while a further child James was born at Bolton in Lancashire in 1850. Thomas (R6) moved to Standish.
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SO this appears to be Isaacs son
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Folds, Little Bolton, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Isaae Niblett Head Married Male 41 1810 Coachman Gloucestershire, England
Mary Niblett Wife Married Female 35 1816 - Killington, Westmorland, England
Priscilla Niblett Daughter - Female 10 1841 - Kendal, Westmorland, England
Thomas Niblett Son - Male 9 1842 Piecer Cotton Kendal, Westmorland, England
Margaret Ann Niblett Daughter - Female 8 1843 - Kendal, Westmorland, England
Agnes Niblett Daughter - Female 5 1846 - Kendal, Westmorland, England
Sarah Niblett Daughter - Female 5 1846 - Kendal, Westmorland, England
James Niblett Son - Male 1 1850 - Bolton, Lancashire, England
Agnes Benjamin Sister In Law Widow Female 44 1807 Nurse Westmorland, England
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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Gate, Kendal, Westmorland, England
Isaac Niblett Male 30 1811 -
Mary Niblett Female 20 1821 Westmorland
Priscilla Niblett Female 1 1840 Westmorland
William Walker Male 35 1806 Westmorland
Jane Walker Female 9 1832 Westmorland
Mary Walker Female 6 1835 Westmorland
Agnes Bowman Female 35 1806 Westmorland
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Hmmmm there is a 10 year difference in Isaacs age on christening and the last 2 census reports.
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Ok another document found on Ancestry re Isaac son of Isaac.
Father:
Father of Isaac is identified as also Isaac on record of 1838 marriage to Mary Sisson in Kendal,
Westmorland.
Census Records:
1841 Census: In Kendal with Mary and daughter Priscilla. Occupation: groom. Birthplace: not in
Westmorland. Birth about 1810 (but 1841 census only gives adult ages in 5 year increments, so is not
accurate).
1851 Census: In Bolton, at 10 Folds Road, with Mary and 6 children, as well as Mary's sister Agnes
(Sisson) Bowman. Name incorrectly transcribed as "Ham Neblett". Occupation: coachman. Age 41, so
birth about 1809 (unless age of 41 should be 47, thus giving 1803, but 41 seems clear). Birthplace is
fairly illegible and is transcribed as Shoad Water, but Stroud Water, Gloucestershire, seems a better
transcription. Stroud Water is presumably Stroud, Gloucestershire, or its environs.
1861 Census: Mary and 6 children (last name incorrectly listed as "Nibbett") are in Bolton, at 2 Bread St,
but Mary is a widow, so Isaac dies before 1861.
Death:
Youngest child Mary is born mid-1854, but Isaac is dead by the 1861 census, so Isaac dies between Sep
1853 and May 1861. Place of death is probably Bolton, but as he is a coachman, death may be
elsewhere. There is a death record for an Isaac Niblett in 1856 in Bolton. Age 52, so birth 1803/4, which
seems to match very well.
Name:
Isaac is not one of the more common names, and is more often associated with non-conformist families.
Partial Conclusion:
So, it would seem fairly clear that Isaac Niblett is born roughly between 1803 and 1810, certainly in
Gloucestershire and probably in the vicinity of Stroud, with father definitely also named Isaac Niblett.
Isaac definitely dies between late 1853 and early 1861, and probably in 1856. May be a little more likely
to be from a non-conformist family.
Problems:
Problematic alternate 1851 Census entry: A second Isaac Niblett is found in Bolton, at 9 Nelson Square, a
patient in a infirmary. Occupation: Invalid. Born 1803/4 in Rodborough, Gloucestershire (Rodborough is
contiguous with Stroud). The 1856 death record could easily be for this second Isaac, who is a patient in
1851. Unfortunately, no other previous or later census records can be found in Lancashire for any
second Isaac Niblett. Nor can a second death record for a second Isaac Niblett of anything like the
correct age can be found in Lancashire (there are some later Isaac Niblett's who are descendants, but
they are much too young at death). If this really is a second Isaac, then the death record might not apply
and the birth date might be closer to the 1809 on the census records than the 1803 of the death record.
However, Isaac Niblett is really not a common name at all - there are only a couple anywhere in England
at this time - and there are even fewer who are born near Stroud and end up in Bolton. It is actually a
little difficult to believe there are two such people. One possibility is that there really is only one such
Isaac Niblett and these entries are for the same person. The infirmary at 9 Nelson Square is barely 700
metres from the 1851 residence at 10 Folds Road. Although the census is supposed to record who was
in the house on the designated census night, it is possible that Mary misunderstood the census
instructions and listed Isaac as resident at home even though he was actually in hospital on that night.
That is, if his stay in hospital is temporary, she listed him as at his permanent residence at home, rather
than at his temporary residence at an infirmary. If the infirmary correctly lists all those present on
census night, then there would be two records created. If this is correct, then Isaac Niblett's is birthplace
is most likely specifically Rodborough, Gloucestershire, with a birth year more likely around 1803/4 than
1809, as per the second 1851 census record and the death record. If not correct, then the previous
broader ranges apply.
Possibilities:
The records of course might be incomplete, but there are only two Isaac Nibletts born anywhere in
England between 1793 and 1815 to be found in census, birth or other records: one born in 1806 in
Sussex (which does not match the birthplace) and one in 1800 in Gloucestershire (which does). This
Isaac is born 25 Aug 1800 and baptized 23 Sep 1800 at the Calvinist Methodist church in Rodborough,
Gloucestershire, with parents Isaac Niblett and Mary Franklin. Other than the discrepancy in age of 1803
(or maybe even 1809) vs 1800, this seems like a perfect match. The Mike Niblett Worldwide Niblett
Families site, with an extensive list of Nibletts in this part of Gloucester idependently identifies this Isaac
b1800 as moving to Westmorland/Cumbria then Lancashire. Although there is some discrepancy in the
various birth years, this seems the best identification. All of the earlier ancestry of Isaac Niblett depends
on this identification, so given the birthdate discrepancy, this is not certain, but seems the best.
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England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970 about Isaac Nibblett
Name: Isaac Nibblett
Birth Date: 25 Aug 1800
Gender: Male
Event Type: Baptism
Father: Isaac Nibblett
Baptism Date: 23 Sep 1800
Baptism Place: Rodborough, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
Denomination: Calvinistic Methodist
Piece Title: Piece 760: Rodborough, The Tabernacle (Calvinistic Methodist), 1762-1819
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If he came from Bisely as per the first document then these may be connected.
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Skiveralls, Bisley, Stroud, Gloucestershire, England
William Niblett Male 67 1774 Gloucestershire
Ann Niblett Female 68 1773 Gloucestershire
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Also
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
France Lynch, Bisley, Stroud, Gloucestershire, England
James Niblett Male 63 1778 Gloucestershire Transcription
Sarah Niblett Female 54 1787 Gloucestershire
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Extract from another document but again over to you to prove
What is remarkable about this family is that so few went on to form families of their own,
continuing what appears to have been a common feature in Bisley. Only Stephen (20) who
married Sarah Cook on Dec 13, 1769 with no apparent successors and Isaac who moved
to Minchinhampton to marry an unknown around 1774 and produce one son Isaac
christened in March 1775 were the exceptions.
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Thank you LadyKira have printed off what you have found. Many thanks
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Good idea but remember it is someone else's work and it is up tp you to prove it.
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