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chrissey
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18 Aug 2014 22:42 |
Hi
I am trying to find the parents of Peter Parkins, born in 1831/32 in Cardington, Beds. He was living with his grandparents in 1841 and 1851 and living in the Peterborough area in 1861 with wife and child. His marriage certificate states his father as Peter Coolington, a shoemaker, but I canfind no Peter Coolington.
Can anyone help?
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Chrissey
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patchem
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18 Aug 2014 22:47 |
What were his grandparents' names, and who were the witnesses on the marriage certificate?
Any other spellings for the Coolington surname from the certificate?
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chrissey
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18 Aug 2014 22:50 |
Hi Patchem
Grandparents were Thomas and Sarah Parkins, witnesses were Rebecca ?udron and George Wood
Chrissey
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18 Aug 2014 22:50 |
Hi Patchem
Grandparents were Thomas and Sarah Parkins, witnesses were Rebecca ?udron and George Wood
Chrissey
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18 Aug 2014 22:54 |
No other spelling of surname
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18 Aug 2014 22:54 |
No other spelling of surname
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brummiejan
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18 Aug 2014 23:13 |
I can't see anything for Peter Coolington. Did wonder if this person might be connected in some way, but for the life of me can't find him elsewhere (the name is a bit faint on the image):
1881 England Census Name: Thos.R. Coolington Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Sarah Ann Coolington Gender: Male Where born: London Clerkl, London, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St James Clerkenwell County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 11 Spa Cottages Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Bootmaker Registration district: Holborn Sub-registration district: Goswell Street ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Piece: 357 Folio: 30 Page Number: 54
Thos.R. Coolington 24 Sarah Ann Coolington 23 Elizh.S. Coolington
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patchem
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18 Aug 2014 23:26 |
brummiejan,
Could that family be Codrington?
Births Sep 1880 CODRINGTON Elizabeth Sarah Holborn 1b 755
Added: Marriages Jun 1880 CODRINGTON Thomas Richard Holborn 1b 877 Colebrooke Sarah Ann Holborn 1b 877 Colebrooks Sarah Ann Holborn 1b 877 THORPE Julia Anna Holborn 1b 877 Waller William Holborn 1b 877
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KathleenBell
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18 Aug 2014 23:38 |
There is this entry on the 1851 census. Not sure if the initials might be surname first and then forename (at least the occupation would be right and if he was ill it would be a reason for Peter to be with grandparents):-
First Name C P Last Name - Relationship Patient Condition Married Gender Male Age 51 Year Of Birth 1800 Occupation Shoemaker Birth Place England Birth Town - Birth town as transcribed St Pauls Birth County Bedfordshire Birth county as transcribed Bedfordshire House Number - House Name - Street - Town - Parish St Mary City Bedford County Bedfordshire Hamlet - Parliamentary Borough Bedford Municipal Ward Bedford Registration District Bedford Archive Reference HO107 Piece Number 1752 Folio 57 Page 10 Record set 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
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brummiejan
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18 Aug 2014 23:49 |
You're right Patchem, have found him elsewhere. Curses! Jan
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patchem
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19 Aug 2014 00:12 |
Why curses?
Peter Parkin's father could be Codrington.
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JoonieCloonie
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19 Aug 2014 01:49 |
I think Coolington is not a real name.
the Codrington marriage looks just right for the 1881 Thomas ... but he seems to have no connection with Bedfordshire ... and there are few Codringtons in the BMDs in Bedfordshire/Northamptonshire ...
a birth in Wellingboro in 1845, a death in Bedford 1894 and then marriages after 1920 in those two districts and later events elsewhere in Northants the surname is mostly associated with Gloucestershire/Somerset extending into Wiltshire, Dorset, Hampshire, and with London
Covington is a possibility ... in 1851 there is a Peter Covington c1813 in Bedford St Paul with wife Maria (probably Smith married 1843 Bedford reg dist) and children, >> a cordwainer (shoemaker)
Peter Covington 38 > born in Cardington Maria Covington 28 Stephen Covington 7 Emma Covington 5 Peter Covington 3 Robert Covington 1
Cardington is in the Bedford reg dist
there is also a Petre Covington (as spelled by freebmd) death in Bedford reg dist in 1839, and others in June quarter 1851 and later
I wish we could have all the details known ... living in 1861 with his wife and child, names? where?
children's names can be helpful if they are connected with the parent's family for instance ... possibly named for a parent's mother ...
you say his grandparents were Thomas and Sarah Parkins ... but in 1851 he is living with Thomas and Ann Parkins ...
Thomas Parkin 77 Ann Parkin 72 Peter Parkin 18 Mary Sannan 50
someone has corrected the surname from Parkin in that census at Ancestry, do you know that person? a different person has more recently corrected the data for their lodger and a third person has corrected Thomas's place of birth
however in 1841 they appear in Cardington at Ancestry as
Thomas Rackin 67 Sarah Rackin 60 Peter Rackin 9
aha, recently corrected :-)
do you think Peter Parkins could have been Peter Covington, and took his grandparents' name after death or desertion by his father or parents? and he simply didn't know his father's given name and used his own? ... not at all unheard of
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NDH4-DFP
Name: Peter Covington Gender: Male Christening Date: 09 Oct 1831 Christening Place: St. Marys, Bedford, Bedford, England Father's Name: William Covington Mother's Name: Mary Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03641-3
but no I think that Covington family can be ruled out ... she was probably Mary Ann Hall and that child is likely in the 1841 census as 'Paler Covington' at Ancestry with mother Maryann.
there are Covingtons in Bedford in all censuses
I think I would be interested in the shoemaker Peter in 1851 perhaps ... when he married in 1843 he was already 30 and could have been a widower or had a child when he was young ... I can't spot him in 1841 ...
there are two people at this site with a Peter Covington 1813, no place of birth shown, in their trees
and there are several people with other Covingtons born in Cardington in the 1700s and early 1800s in their trees, one of them being one of the people who has Peter Covington 1813
it's possible they could tell you something about him
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JoonieCloonie
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19 Aug 2014 01:58 |
I would bet that this is a child of Thomas and Sarah/Ann Parkins
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NYY4-NQP
Name: Denbigh Parkins Gender: Male Christening Date: 26 Jan 1806 Christening Place: WESTONING,BEDFORD,ENGLAND Birth Date: 24 Nov 1805 Father's Name: Thomas Parkins Mother's Name: Ann
same birth place as Thomas and Ann in 1851, and living in Cardington in 1851 (I searched censuses for Parkins born in Westoning hoping to find a son or unmarried daughter)
other births to that couple in that place:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NPDH-NSS Sarah Parkins 1802 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J3ZC-DJK Elizabeth Parkins 1808
one of them is likely Peter Parkins's mother?
there are a lot of people at this site with Thomas Parkins 1770/1775 Westoning in their trees (just search for Thomas Parkins 1775 +/- 10 years in Bedfordshire, for reasons unknown, the search function will not find him if you specify Westoning)
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Gee
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19 Aug 2014 06:58 |
Posting this so we can check them out later
England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970
Name:Peter Curbington
Birth Date:9 Jun 1834
Birth Place:Riseley, Bedfordshire, England
Gender:Male
Event Type:Baptism
Father: Peter Ekins
Mother: Elizath Ekins
Baptism Date:17 Jul 1834
Baptism Place:Higham Ferrers, Northamptonshire, England
Denomination:Wesleyan Methodist
Piece Title: Piece 1272: Higham Ferrers (Wesleyan Methodist), 1811-1837 -------------------------------------------
Struggling to read the fathers occupation?
1841 England Census
Name: Geter Ekins [Peter Ekins]
Age:55
Estimated birth year:abt 1786
Gender:Male
Where born:Bedfordshire, England
Civil Parish:Riseley
Hundred:Stodden
County/Island:Bedfordshire
Registration district:Bedford
Sub-registration district:Riseley
Piece:7 Book:12 Folio:11 Page Number:16
Household Members:
Geter Ekins 55 Elizabeth Ekins 45 Naomi Ekins 15 Mary Ekins 12 Iabez Ekins 9 Geter Ekins 6 Jane Ekins 5
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patchem
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19 Aug 2014 07:09 |
Peter snr from that above census is a shoe xxx in 1841 and a cordwainer in 1851.
But Peter jnr cannot be with parents and with grandparents on the same censuses??
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Chris Ho :)
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19 Aug 2014 07:10 |
Burial (Find My Past) First name(s) THOMAS Last name PARKINS Birth year 1774 Death year 1851 Age 77 Burial year 1851 Burial day 14 Burial month 11 Place CARDINGTON Church description ST MARY Church denomination ANGLICAN County Bedfordshire
Chris :)
(below, examples of name Covington, from below link)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
Baptism County Bedfordshire Place Cardington Church St. Mary RegisterNumber DateOfBirth BaptismDate 22 Oct 1775 Forename Peter Sex M FatherForename Peter MotherForename Ann FatherSurname COVINGTON
Burial County Bedfordshire Place Cardington Church St. Mary RegisterNumber BurialDate 23 Jun 1809 Forename Peter Relationship Rel1MaleForename Rel1FemaleForename Rel1Surname Surname COVINGTON Notes Sen.; blacksmith
(also another Burial in Cardington, Find My Past, Covington Peter 13/1/1839 age 63)
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Gee
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19 Aug 2014 07:14 |
I don't think that info I posted is the correct Peter, I've followed him through on the censuses and he appears on them
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chrissey
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19 Aug 2014 07:25 |
Hi All
Thank you all very much for your time and effort, sorry but I dozed off l.ast night
I have quite a few things to check now and hopefully one of the leads will give me the answer
Kind regards
Chrissey
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Gee
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19 Aug 2014 07:39 |
I cant seem to find Peter on the 1841 census?
Chrissey, could you post it please
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Chris Ho :)
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19 Aug 2014 07:45 |
Prisoner record from Bedford
Offence details Name: Peter Parkins Age: 19 Date of Offence: 10th January 1852 Offence: On 5th January 1852 at Cardington unlawfully entering on land in the occupation of John White with a snare for the purpose of taking Game Sentence: 3 Days Hard Labour having found Sureties Type of trial: Summarily Convicted
Personal details Height: 5 ft 7 inches Hair colour: Brown Eye colour: Blue Visage: Round Complexion: Fresh Identifying marks: Scar on the forehead several moles on the back Trade or occupation: : Read and Write Imperfectly Marriage status: Single Number of children: Unknown
Residence details Birth town: Cardington Residence town: Cardington Residence county: Bedfordshire
Chris :)
http://vcp.e2bn.org/search/index.php?cmd=search&searchstring=parkins&searchwithinresultsstring=
(from google search, worth a look round on names!)
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