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I have not been on the boards for some time, but have a new query that I'd be grateful if someone could help me solve.

I have the 1881 census record for Henry Forbes (RG11/78/3/7) and his family in Chelsea, London, as follows:-

Henry Forbes Head M 35 Bricklayer b Chelsea
Eliza Forbes Wife M 28 b not known
Elen Forbes Dau 5 Scholar b Chelsea
Henry Forbes Son 3 Scholar b Chelsea
Ann Forbes Dau ? months b Chelsea

I have been unsuccessful in finding the family in any future census records and would appreciate any help you may be able to give. Many thanks in advance.

Ron

The fathers occupation is bricklayer, same as the 1881 census



London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name:Ellen Forbes

Estimated birth year:abt 1876

Age:27

Spouse: Edward Ernest Thorne

Spouse Age:26

Record Type:Marriage

Event Date:13 Apr 1903

Parish:St Colomb, Notting Hill

Borough:Kensington and Chelsea

Father Name:Henry George Forbes

Spouse Father:Thomas Edward Thorne

Register Type:
Parish Register

Possible ?

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census



Household Information

Street FENWICK STREET
Parish WOOLWICH
Town
City
County London
Country ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District ST JOHN THE EVANGELIST
Enumeration District 2
Municipal Ward ST GEORGE'S
Parliamentary Borough WOOLWICH
Registration District WOOLWICH
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Collections from Great Britain

Person 1

First Name ELIZA
Last Name FORBES
Birth Year 1855
Age 46
Birth Town WESTMINSTER
Birth County LONDON
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household HEAD
Gender Female
Occupation LAUNDRESS
Condition WIDOW
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 29
Page 10
Piece Number 564

Person 2

First Name WM
Last Name FORBES
Birth Year 1887
Age 14
Birth Town CHELSEA
Birth County LONDON
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household SON
Gender Male
Occupation GREEN GROCER'S BOY
Condition
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 29
Page 10
Piece Number 564

Person 3

First Name MARY A
Last Name FORBES
Birth Year 1884
Age 17
Birth Town CHELSEA
Birth County LONDON
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER
Gender Female
Occupation LAUNDRESS
Condition SINGLE
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 29
Page 10
Piece Number 564

Death for Henry



England & Wales deaths 1837-2007


First Name HENRY
Last Name FORBES
Gender Male
Year 1897
Birth Year 1847
Birth Month
Birth Day
District CHELSEA
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Event Quarter 4
District Number
Page 285
Line Number 227
Entry Number
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
DOR
Category Births, Marriages & Deaths
Collections from Great Britain

Thanks Gins and Polly Poppet. They look promising. I know that Henry and Eliza had another son - Richard Joseph Forbes b 2 Apr 1891, d 22 Aug 1952 so Henry would still have been alive. The possible 1901 census looks right because Eliza is shown as widowed, but I have no record of William or Mary

I'm also frustrated that I can't find the marriage of Henry and Eliza to discover her maiden name!

possible for William


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census



Household Information

Address 28 ANGLESEA ROAD WOOLWICH
Parish WOOLWICH
County London
Country ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District
Enumeration District 5
Registration District WOOLWICH
Registration District Number 30
SubDistrict Number 2
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales
Collections from Great Britain

Person 1

First Name RICHARD
Last Name NORTHAM
Birth Year 1893
Age 18
Where Born PLUMSTEAD
Relationship To Head of Household BROTHER IN LAW
Gender Male
Condition SINGLE
Year Of Marriage
Years Of Marriage
Occupation ARSENAL LABEROUR
Military Info
Census Reference RG14PN2862 RG78PN98 RD30 SD2 ED5 SN147
Archive Reference RG14
Folio
Page
Piece Number 2862

Person 2

First Name WILLIAM
Last Name FORBES
Birth Year 1888
Age 23
Where Born CHELSEA
Relationship To Head of Household HUSBAND
Gender Male
Condition MARRIED
Year Of Marriage
Years Of Marriage
Occupation DOCKYARD LABEROUR
Military Info
Census Reference RG14PN2862 RG78PN98 RD30 SD2 ED5 SN147
Archive Reference RG14
Folio
Page
Piece Number 2862

Father is deceased on that 1903 marriage record.

Hi Polly Poppet
Does it show who the head of household is on census for William please?

Thanks Margee. Looks even more promising it's the right Ellen

Thomas Forbes

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 10 June 1891 Christ Church, Chelsea, Middlesex, England
residence: Chelsea, Middlesex, England

father: Henry Forbes
mother: Eliza Forbes

Richard Joseph Forbes

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 10 June 1891 Christ Church, Chelsea, Middlesex, England
residence: Chelsea, Middlesex, England

father: Henry Forbes
mother: Eliza Forbes



Births Sep 1889 (>99%)
Forbes Thomas Chelsea 1a 338

William is the head of household

this looks like his marriage


England & Wales marriages 1837-2008


First Name WILLIAM
Last Name FORBES
Gender Male
Year 1910
Spouse
Image Quarter 3
Country England
County London
District WOOLWICH
District Number
Registry Number
Volume 1D
Page 2457
Line Number 114
Entry Number
Category Births, Marriages & Deaths
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Collections from Great Britain

Spouse MatchSpouse Match: William FORBES married Elizabeth NORTHAM
First Name ELIZABETH
Last Name NORTHAM
Gender Female
Year 1910
Spouse
Image Quarter 3
Country England
County London
District WOOLWICH
District Number
Registry Number
Volume 1D
Page 2457
Line Number 7
Entry Number
Category Births, Marriages & Deaths
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Collections from Great Britain

1911 England Census

Name:Ellen Thorne

Age in 1911:34

Estimated birth year:abt 1877

Relation to Head:Wife

Gender:Female

Birth Place:Chelsea, London, England

Civil Parish:Wolverhampton

County/Island:Staffordshire

Street address:74 North Road, Wolverhampton

Marital Status:Married

Years Married:8

Estimated Marriage Year:1903

Registration district:Wolverhampton

Registration District Number:369

Sub-registration district:Wolverhampton Eastern

ED, institution, or vessel:4
Household schedule number:206
Piece:17056

Household Members:


Edward Ernest Thorne 34
Ellen Thorne 34
Thomas Edward Thorne 7
Harry William Thorne 5
Edward Ernest Thorne 3
Frederick Thorne 2
Arthur Thorne 1/12

Thanks safc, that's another child of Henry and Eliza I didn't know about

marriage for mary ann


England & Wales marriages 1837-2008


First Name MARY ANN
Last Name FORBES
Gender Female
Year 1910
Spouse
Image Quarter 2
Country England
County London
District CHELSEA
District Number
Registry Number
Volume 1A
Page 757
Line Number 21
Entry Number
Category Births, Marriages & Deaths
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Collections from Great Britain

she married George wood

Thanks so much to all of you for your hard work. I'm about to sign out of GR as my wife and I are off for a meal with friends. I will take a further look tomorrow to see if anything else has come to light. Take care.
Ron

Deaths Sep 1891 (>99%)
Forbes Thomas 2 Chelsea 1a 268

I haven't been able to find the family on the 1891 census but their children Thomas Forbes born 1st July 1889 and Richard Joseph Forbes born 2nd April 1891 were both baptised on 10th June 1891 at Christchurch, Chelsea. Their address is listed as-

21 Paradise Walk, Chelsea

May be someone can find them using this address??

I don't have a subscription for find my past so can't view details, but there is a Forbes family living in Paradise walk Chelsea in 1891 that could be related

could this be Elen Forbes in 1891?????


1891 Census

Name: Helen Forbes
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Chelsea, London, England
Civil Parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Chelsea
Sub-registration district: Chelsea, South

Frances C Locking 71 Head, Widow, no occupation shown
Leonara Locking 30 Daughter, Artist
Helen Forbes 15 General Servant

Address:- 16 Cheyne Row