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Nicola

Nicola Report 25 Jul 2014 22:24

Looking for the birth of John Joseph McMahon born 1914 ish county Clare, Ireland.
I have Marriage and Death record of the above in Birkenhead, Uk.
Marriage to Nellie Beasley Jun 1940, birkenhead and death 1993 Birkenhead, he was born in 1914 somewhere in Co Clare, Ireland. Without the very useful census and BMD records, I don't know where to look.
Any help very much appreciated.

Mike *

Mike * Report 25 Jul 2014 22:27

so who was his father on his marriage cert ?

Andrew

Andrew Report 25 Jul 2014 22:29

There is this record

Co Clare. Correct quarter but year out


Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
about John Joseph McMahon

Name:John Joseph McMahon
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1915
Registration district:Ennistimon
Volume:4
Page:167
FHL Film Number:101076


Andy

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Jul 2014 22:31

this is Co.Clare

Name: John Mcmahon
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: Jul - Sep 1940
Event Place: Killadysert, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year: Jul - Sep 1940
Registration District: Killadysert
Volume Number: 4
Page Number: 135
GS Film number: 101578 , Digital Folder Number: 004199370 , Image Number: 00332

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Jul 2014 22:32

Name: John Joseph Mcmahon
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: Jan - Mar 1915
Event Place: Killadysert, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year: Jan - Mar 1915
Registration District: Killadysert
Volume Number: 4
Page Number: 239
GS Film number: 101076 , Digital Folder Number: 004194695 , Image Number: 00054

Andrew

Andrew Report 25 Jul 2014 22:34

Death record for ref


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about John Joseph McMahon


Name:John Joseph McMahon
Birth Date:30 Aug 1914
Date of Registration:Nov 1993
Age at Death:79
Registration district:Birkenhead
Inferred County:Cheshire
Register Number:B18B
District and Subdistrict:0371B
Entry Number:299

Andy

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Jul 2014 22:34

Towns and villages[edit]

Ardnacrusha
Ballynacally
Ballyvaughan
Barefield
Boston
Broadford
Bunratty
Carrigaholt
Carron
Clarecastle
Clonlara
Connolly
Cooraclare
Corofin
Cranny
Cratloe
Cree (Creegh)
Cross
Crusheen
Doolin
Doonaha
Doonbeg
Doora
Ennis
Ennistymon
Fanore
Feakle
Inagh
Inch
Kilbaha
Kilfenora
Kilkee
Kilkishen
Kildysart
Killaloe
Killimer
Kilmaley
Kilmihil
Kilmurry McMahon
Kilnaboy
Kilnamona
Kilrush
Labasheeda
Lahinch
Liscannor
Lisdoonvarna
Lissycasey
Meelick
Milltown Malbay
Mountshannon
Mullagh
Newmarket-on-Fergus
O'Briensbridge
Ogonnelloe
Parteen
Quilty
Quin
Ruan
Scariff
Shannon
Sixmilebridge
Tuamgraney
Tubber
Tulla
Whitegate

Mike *

Mike * Report 25 Jul 2014 22:34

No middle name on marriage record

Name:
John McMahon

Spouse Surname:Beasley

Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1940

Registration district:Birkenhead

Inferred County:Cheshire

Volume Number:8a
Page Number:1979

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 25 Jul 2014 22:37

If you get a copy of the marriage cert, his father will be named, if he knew him.

Nicola

Nicola Report 25 Jul 2014 22:49

Thanks everyone for your quick replies, I know the marriage and death info, but have no marriage cert. I know he was born in County Clare in 1914 and was 1 of 5 children one of which was Beatrice McMahon.
I have never searched Irish records before and need some help while I wait for the marriage cert to arrive.
Thanks

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 26 Jul 2014 08:23

Nicola...It may be worthwhile considering the following..".Beatrice" was not a common Christian name and this is the only McMahon/MacMahon with a Beatrice...Given the age of Annie I was wondering if she could have had JonJo (1914) but a look at 1901Census shows her age to be 30yrs.There was also a child John (1901) who appears to have died by 1911.

You can check the following at
www.census.nationalarchives.ie.

Residents of a house 16 in Ballynacally Village (Ballynacally, Clare)

McMahon Mortimer 52 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic
McMahon Annie 47 Female Wife Roman Catholic
McMahon Patrick Joseph 14 Male Son Roman Catholic
McMahon Mortimer 11 Male Son Roman Catholic
McMahon Margaret Ann 12 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
McMahon Beatrice 6 Female Daughter Roman Catholic


The family are listed as MacMahon 1901 Census






Could be Beatrice birth....Name: Beatrice M'Mahon
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: Jul - Sep 1905
Event Place: Killadysert, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year: Jul - Sep 1905
Registration District: Killadysert
Volume Number: 4
Page Number: 250

GS Film number: 101070 , Digital Folder Number: 004193984 , Image Number: 00509













Nicola

Nicola Report 29 Jul 2014 23:36

Thanks all for your help. now looking for the marriage of John Mcmahon and Mary Foley or Folley, possibly County Clare? before 1914. They had 5 children and settled in Birkenhead about 1928?
Any help with finding birth and marriage records in Ireland would be great, I can't seem to find anything.

Susan

Susan Report 30 Jul 2014 08:15

Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 about John McMahon
Name: John McMahon
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1914
Registration district: Scarriff
Volume: 4
Page: 300
FHL Film Number: 101075

Gee

Gee Report 30 Jul 2014 13:11


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915


Name:John McMahon

Spouse Surname:Foley

Registration Year:1912

Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep

Registration district:Birkenhead

Parishes for this Registration District:
View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District

Inferred County:Cheshire

Volume:8a

Page:1328

Mary Foley

Gee

Gee Report 30 Jul 2014 13:25

Looks like all the children were born in Berkenhead

Wonder if this is Beatrice?



England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005


Name:Mary B McMahon

Mother's Maiden Surname:Foley

Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1922

Registration district:Birkenhead

Inferred County:Cheshire

Volume Number:8a

Page Number:844


You can find them on freebmd

Gee

Gee Report 30 Jul 2014 13:34

Was it the father that was born in Ireland? I'm not seeing him on any census


Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958


Name:John MacMahon

Date of Registration:
Apr-May-Jun 1886

Registration district:Tulla

Volume:4

Page:458

FHL Film Number:101061

safc

safc Report 30 Jul 2014 13:34

Mariam Foley

Spouse

England, Cheshire Non-conformist Records, 1671-1900

marriage: 7 September 1912 Oxton, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England

father: Danielis Foley
spouse: Joannem Mcmahon
other: Patritii Mcmahon



Name: Joannem Mcmahon
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 07 Sep 1912
Event Place: Oxton, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Age:
Marital Status:
Death Date:
Father's Name: Patritii Mcmahon
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Name: Mariam Foley
Page:
GS Film number: 2149220
Digital Folder Number: 004019278
Image Number: 00196



Citing this Record:
"England, Cheshire Non-conformist Records, 1671-1900," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KFLY-K1D : accessed 30 Jul 2014), Joannem Mcmahon and Mariam Foley, 07 Sep 1912; citing item4, Oxton, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England, Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 2149220.

Gee

Gee Report 30 Jul 2014 13:42

Wonder if this is the father



Residents of a house 59 in Kildysart (Kildysart, Clare)


MacMahon Patk Joseph 51 Male Head of Family R Catholic
MacMahon Elliza 48 Female Wife R Catholic
MacMahon Mary Cate 21 Female Daughter R Catholic
MacMahon John 14 Male Son R Catholic
MacMahon Edward 13 Male Son R Catholic
MacMahon Francis 10 Male Son R Catholic
MacMahon Joseph 9 Male Son R Catholic
MacMahon Delia 4 Female Daughter R Catholic
McInerny Norah 18 Female Servant R Catholic
Patrick G K W 27 Male Lodger Church of Ireland

safc

safc Report 30 Jul 2014 13:44

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
49 Shrewsbury Road Oxton Birkenhead, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Print household transcription
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Richardson Head Married Male 34 1877 Branch Bank Manager Lancashire Liverpool
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Rachel Jane Richardson Wife Married Female 37 1874 - Lancashire Liverpool
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Rachel Joan Richardson Daughter - Female 2 1909 - Lancashire Formby
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William Richardson Son - Male 0 1911 - Cheshire Birkenhead
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Mary Foley Servant Single Female 25 1886 Cook Domestic Kerry Killorglin xxxxxxxxx
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Lilian Mary Harrison Servant Single Female 22 1889 Nurse Housemaid Domestic Cheshire Seacombe

safc

safc Report 30 Jul 2014 13:46

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
99 Park St Birkenhead, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Print household transcription
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Callaghan Head Married Male 42 1869 Mersey Dock And Harbour Board Birkenhead Co Cheshire
Image Transcription
Mary Agnes Callaghan Wife Married Female 44 1867 - Birkenhead Co Cheshire
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James Callaghan Son Single Male 15 1896 General Labourer Birkenhead Co Cheshire
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Norah Callaghan Daughter Single Female 13 1898 - Birkenhead Co Cheshire
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William Callaghan Son Single Male 9 1902 - Birkenhead Co Cheshire
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John McMahon Boarder Single Male 24 1887 Genrl Labour Kerry Cahersiveen Resident xxxxxxxxxxx
Image Transcription
Thomas Callaghan Son Single Male 18 1893 Fireman Engine Man Birkenhead Cheshire