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Thank you for finding James and Sarah Harvey as more likely parents for Alice. Don't know how I missed them.

1911 England Census

Name:Elizabeth C Jackman

Age in 1911:50

Estimated birth year:abt 1861

Relation to Head:Head

Gender:Female

Birth Place:West Cowes, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish:Sandown

County/Island:Hampshire


Street address:
1 Allandale, Maida Vale Rd, Lake, Shanklin, I Of W

Marital Status:Widowed

Occupation:General Dealer

Registration district:Isle of Wight

Registration District Number:93

Sub-registration district:Brading

ED, institution, or vessel:10

Household schedule number:384
Piece:5743

Household Members:


Elizabeth C Jackman 50
Mabel M Jackman 20
Harold G Jackman 18
Gladys D Jackman 11
Louisa A Jackman

1891 England Census

Name:
Elizabeth C Jackman
[Elizabeth C Harvey]

Age:30

Estimated birth year:abt 1861

Relation:Wife

Spouse's Name:George Jackman

Mother's name:Caroline Harvey

Gender:Female

Where born:Isle of Wight, West Cowes

Civil Parish:Northwood

Ecclesiastical parish:St Mary

Town:West Cowes

County/Island:Hampshire

Registration district:Isle Of Wight

Sub-registration district:Cowes

ED, institution, or vessel:4
Piece:885
Folio:49
Page Number:9

Household Members:


George Jackman 34
Elizabeth C Jackman 30
Alice E Jackman 3
Mabel R Jackman 3/12
Caroline Harvey 68

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1901 England Census

Name:George Jackman

Age:44

Estimated birth year:abt 1857

Relation to Head:Head

Gender:Male

Spouse:Elizabeth Jackman

Birth Place:Isle of Wight, Arreton

Civil Parish:East Cowes

Ecclesiastical parish:St James

County/Island:Hampshire

Registration district:Isle of Wight

Sub-registration district:Cowes

ED, institution, or vessel:15

Piece:1018
Folio:129
Page Number:27
Household schedule number:172

Household Members:

George Jackman 44
Elizabeth Jackman 44
Alice Jackman 13
Mabel Jackman 10
Harold Jackman 8
Charles Jackman 7
Kate Jackman 5
Bosalie Jackman 5
Dorothy Jackman 1


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Deaths Sep 1908
Jackman George 50 I. Wight 2b 332

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973

Name:George Jackman

Gender:Male

Marital Status:Single

Age:29

Birth Date:1858

Marriage Date:13 Mar 1887

Marriage Place:Cowes, Hampshire, England

Father: Charles Jackman

Spouse: Elizabeth Charlotte Harvey

FHL Film Number:1470805

Reference ID:P114 CN228

1881 England Census

Name:James Harvey

Age:25

Estimated birth year:abt 1856

Relationship to Head:Head

Spouse:Sarah Harvey

Gender:Male

Where born:Newport, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish:Carisbrooke

County/Island:Hampshire

Street address:14 Trafalgar Rd

Marital Status:Married


Occupation:Painter (Journeyman)

Registration district:Isle Of Wight

Sub-registration district:Newport

ED, institution, or vessel:10

Piece:1176
Folio:54
Page Number:22

Household Members:



James Harvey 25
Sarah Harvey 20
James H. Harvey

1891 England Census

Name:Alice Harvey

Age:1

Estimated birth year:abt 1890

Relation:Daughter

Father's Name:James Harvey

Mother's name:Sarah Harvey

Gender:Female

Where born:Isle of Wight, Newport, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish:Carisbrooke

Ecclesiastical parish:St John

County/Island:Hampshire

Registration district:Isle Of Wight

Sub-registration district:Newport

ED, institution, or vessel:10

Piece:888
Folio:13
Page Number:19

Household Members:


James Harvey 35
Sarah Harvey 30
Florence Harvey 8
Arthur Harvey 6
Elizabeth Harvey 3
Alice Harvey 1

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1901 England Census

Name:Alice Harvey

Age:11

Estimated birth year:abt 1890

Relation to Head:Daughter

Gender:Female

Father:James Harvey <<<House painter

Mother:Sarah Harvey

Birth Place:Isle of Wight, Newport, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish:Newport

Ecclesiastical parish:Carisbrooke St John the Baptist

Town:Newport

County/Island:Hampshire

Registration district:Isle of Wight

Sub-registration district:Newport

ED, institution, or vessel:11

Piece:1021
Folio:69
Page Number:3

Household schedule number:16

Household Members:


James Harvey 45
Sarah Harvey 39
Florence Harvey 18
Arthur Harvey 16
Lessie Harvey 13
Alice Harvey 11
Fred Harvey 9
Lily Harvey 5
Harold Harvey 3

Can someone look up please..George Jackman married Elizabeth Charlotte Harvey in 1887 Isle of Wight in the census's 1891 onwards, still looking for Alice evelyn harvey?

Alice Evelyn Harvey was in 1911 census as Mrs W A Charnley born 1889 Isle of Wight, living in Essex with husband William A Charnley. Can't find her in previous census's?

One last request for help with this tree.
Looking for Alice Evelyn Harvey born dec 1889 Isle of wight, she married William A Charnley in 1911 in London, having trouble finding her in census or any parents and siblings?

Thanks for the info.
I don't see how I can be sure of finding the right birth for John? I have found nothing in County Clare? why would he say he was born in Kerry on the 1911 census?
I hadn't thought about the possibility of there being 2 marriages between a john Mcmahon and Mary Foley! Maybe I should give up on this one.

Patrick McMahon married Brid Moriarty 17 Feb 1880 Cahirciveen.
Pats.father John McMahon .Bridgets father Timothy Moriarty.

Nicola...The McMahon surname is more predominant in the Co Clare than the Co Kerry ..but if you think that they are the correct ones then you need to follow that line but I would suggest with Caution...There is always the possibility that 2 John McMahons married Mary Foleys ...!!!

I cannot locate the McMahon family 1911 Ire....Patrick of course may have already been deceased and Brid.as well I cannot locate any of the younger children...

Daniel is living with John O'Connell 48 Top St Caher.
Catherine and Mary are living with Denis J.Connell 43 Main St.

But the others are not to be found so far....

I'm confused too, The family thought their Mcmahon were from county Clare but the names given of oldest relatives was John Mcmahon and Mary Foley confirmed by Marriage cert 1912, 1911 census separately gives their births in County Kerry, John in Cahersiveen and Mary in Killorglin. The 1901 census in Cahersiveen shows a john Mcmahon rigth birth date and right father's name. Thats all I have to go on.
Thanks for your help

Nicola....I am confused ...You originally were looking for the McMahon's from the Co Clare now you are looking at the Co Kerry.....Does all the Primary Source info.you have confirm the Co Kerry.....????

The Patrick McMahon (1901) plus family are not to be found in 1911 Census although some of the older children are still in Caher...

Need some help to confirm the birth of John Mcmahon born 1886(born Cahersiveen, Kerry according to the 1911 census)
Now the family insist that he had a sister Teresa who married a Mr Morland.
John Mcmahon married Mary Foley in 1912 Birkenhead, He's father on Marriage cert is Patrick Mcmahon Deceased in 1912.
1901 census Caherersiveen Kerry,John Mcmahon born 1886 parents Patrick Mcmahon and Bridget Moriarty but no Teresa only a Teresa Mcmahon born 1882 Lancashire, parents Patrick Mcmahon and Mariam Farrell?? What to do next?seems I need to confirm john Mcmahon was born in 1886 in Kerry, with patrick as father, How do i do that? Tried searching roots Ireland no results.

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Area - KERRY (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - CASTLEMAINE

Baptism of MARY FOLEY of BALLYNAMONA on 9 November 1888

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Name MARY FOLEY
Date of Birth 5 November 1888
Address BALLYNAMONA
Father DANIEL FOLEY
Mother MARY COUNIHAN
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Father Occupation NR
Sponsor 1 TIMOTHY FOLEY
Sponsor 2 HANORA COUNIHAN
Priest REV. J. COUNIHAN
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Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier
4 1 4 KY-RC-BA-153160

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Area - KERRY (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - CAHERCIVEEN

Baptism of JOHN MC MAHON of CAHERCIVEEN on 12 August 1886

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Name JOHN MC MAHON
Date of Birth 11 August 1886
Address CAHERCIVEEN
Father PATRICK NR
Mother BRIDGET MORIARTY
Further details in the record
Father Occupation NR
Sponsor 1 PATRICK LYNCH
Sponsor 2 HONORA LYNCH
Priest CANON BROSNAN
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Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier
2 N/R 11 KY-RC-BA-106894

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Census Years
1901
Kerry
Caher
Main Street
Residents of a house

Residents of a house 6 in Main Street (Caher, Kerry)
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Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
McMahon Patrick 51 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Cahirciveen Baker Read and write Irish and English Married - xxxxxxxxx
McMahon Bridget 40 Female Wife R C Cahirciveen - Read and write Irish and English Married -
McMahon Patrick 19 Male Son R C Cahirciveen Assistant Baker Read and write English Not Married -
McMahon Catherine 18 Female Daughter R C Cahirciveen Shop Maid Read and write English Not Married -
McMahon Timothy 16 Male Son R C Cahirciveen Assistant Baker Read and write English Not Married -
McMahon John 14 Male Son R C Cahirciveen Scholar Read and write English Not Married - xxxxxxxxxxx
McMahon Mary 13 Female Daughter R C Cahirciveen Scholar Read and write English Not Married -
McMahon Denis 12 Male Son R C Cahirciveen Scholar Read and write English Not Married -
McMahon Daniel 10 Male Son R C Cahirciveen Scholar Read and write English Not Married -
McMahon Bridget 7 Female Daughter R C Cahirciveen Scholar Read - Not Married -
McMahon Michael 5 Male Son R C - Scholar - - Not Married -
McMahon Margaret 2 Female Daughter R C - - - - Not Married -
McMahon Helena 1 Female Daughter R C - - - - Not Married -
Moriarty Catherine 70 Female Mother in Law R C - -

Got marriage cert for John McMahon and Mary foley 17th Sept 1912 Birkenhead.
John's Father is Patrick McMahon(deceased) Baker Journeyman
Mary Foley's Father Daniel Foley (deceased) Railway labourer
No mention of Ireland? the 1911 census for both john and mary give their birth place as Kerry Ireland?
need to find both father's in census? the married couple where born in 1884 and 1886? This is driving me mad, you get a cert and think it has all the answers but no just more questions...

Hi

You would need the marriage certificate to check his fathers details

Ref above