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West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
about Elizabeth Dyson Name:Elizabeth Dyson (Farmer's Daughter) Spinster
Birth Year:abt 1838
Age:32
Marriage or Bann Date:11 Jun 1870
Parish:Emley, St Michael
Father's Name:William Dyson (Farmer)
Spouse's Name:Walter Hey (Fancy Weaver) Bachelor
Spouse's Father's Name:George Hey (Fancy Weaver) Deceased
Witnesses: Major Dyson and John Hampshire

William in 1871...


1871 England Census
about William Dyson Name:William Dyson
Age:56
Estimated birth year:abt 1815
Relation:Head
Gender:Male
Where born:Emley, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Emley
Ecclesiastical parish:Emley
Town:Emley
County/Island:Yorkshire
Country:England
Registration district:Wakefield
Sub-registration district:Bretton

Household Members:

William Dyson 56 (He is now a Farmer of 11 Acres)
Ann Dyson 13 (Grandaughter)
Walter Hey 21 (Son in Law)
Elizabeth Hey 33 (Daughter)
George Henry Hey 1

(You will see from the 1881 census that Ann is Elizabeth's illegitimate daughter)


Marriages Jun 1870 (>99%)
Dyson Elizabeth Wakefield 9c 6
HEY Walter Wakefield 9c 6



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about William Dyson Name:William Dyson
Estimated birth year:abt 1815
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1874
Age at Death:59
Registration district:Wakefield
Inferred County:
Yorkshire West Riding
Volume:9c
Page:3

Check out the images of the census records Robert.....and you will see that there are family members living in close proximity!

1851 England Census
about William Dyson Name:William Dyson
Age:36
Estimated birth year:abt 1815
Relation:Head
Gender:Male
Where born:Emley, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Kirkburton
Ecclesiastical parish:Kirkburton
County/Island:Yorkshire
Country:England
Street address: Thorncliffe
Occupation: Fancy Weaver
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district:Huddersfield
Sub-registration district:Newmill

Household Members:

William Dyson 36 (Widower)
Muger Dyson 15
Elizabeth Dyson 13
William Dyson 11
John Dyson 10
Thomas Dyson 7
George Dyson 5


1841 England Census
about Major Dyson Name:Major Dyson
Age:5
Estimated birth year:abt 1836
Gender:Male
Where born:Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Kirk Burton
Hundred:Agbrigg (Upper Division)
County/Island:Yorkshire
Country:England
Street address: Thorncliffe
Occupation:
Registration district:Huddersfield
Sub-registration district:Kirkburton

Household Members:

Wm Dyson 25 (Fancy Weaver)
Ann Dyson 25
Major Dyson 5
Elizabeth Dyson 2
Wm Dyson 1



West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
about William Dyson Name:William Dyson
Parish:Emley, St Michael
Baptism Date:25 Dec 1814
Father's Name:William Dyson (Cooper) Emley
Mother's name:Mary Dyson

If you check out the image of the 1841 census.......it's the same one I posted for Mother Mary. She is on the same page.

Going by the 1871 census.....it seems William and Mary had another son....


1871 England Census
about Mary Dyson Name:Mary Dyson
Age:84
Estimated birth year:abt 1787
Relation:Head
Gender:Female
Where born:Flockton, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Kirkburton
County/Island:Yorkshire
Country:England
Registration district:Huddersfield
Sub-registration district:Kirkburton
ED, institution, or vessel:11
Household schedule number:35
Piece:4354
Folio:26
Page Number:8

Household Members:

Mary Dyson 84 (Farmer of 11 Acres of Land)
Mayer Dyson 35 (Grandson) Cloth Weaver
Mary Dyson 12 (Grandaughter)



West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
about Major Dyson Name:Major Dyson
Parish:Emley, St Michael
Baptism Date:3 Apr 1836
Father's Name:William Dyson (Weaver) Emley
Mother's name:Ann Dyson


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Major Dyson Name:Major Dyson
Estimated birth year:abt 1836
Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1872
Age at Death:36
Registration district:Huddersfield
Inferred County:Yorkshire West Riding
Volume:9a
Page:251



1861 England Census
about Major Dyson Name:Major Dyson
Age:24
Estimated birth year:1837
Relation:Son
Father's Name:William Dyson
Gender:Male
Where born: Emley, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Kirkburton
Town:Kirkburton
County/Island:Yorkshire
Country:England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district:Huddersfield
Sub-registration district:Kirkburton

Household Members:

William Dyson 47 (Woolen Weaver) Widower...Born Emley
Major Dyson 24 (Woolen Weaver)
Elizabeth Dyson 22 (House Maid)
John Dyson 19 (Coal Miner)
Thomas Dyson 17 (Coal Miner)
George Dyson 15 (Shoe Maker)
Ann Dyson 3

RobertD

In your initial post you have put that you got back to your greatgrandfather using census records.

It is much better to work back using a combination of census records and birth, marriage and death certificates, otherwise some nasty mistakes can arise.

As you said, you do not want to assume anything.

As a lot of information has been given here, you need to copy it all down to double-check that you understand how it has been found and what it all means. Some of it may not relate to your family, but can be given to eliminate wrong leads.

As it is your family it is far more interesting to do the research yourself, and ask for help when you get stuck.

You can go and look at those census entries from the information given, and see what has been written down on the actual images.

Different sites have different records, and you can see the actual baptism images on some.

Mike gave you a link to family search, do you use this?

Travel at your own speed, but also realise that not everything can be found on the internet, and you may have to leave your computer and visit to get to all the records.

I am just about to sign out for the day........but I check back on here tomorrow.

You can see from Thomas's baptism record that his mother is Mary and his father is William occupation Cooper.

Which also ties is with his marriage record....Father William occupation Cooper.

Don't worry about...."I wont ask you any more after this." and "Am I working you too hard?".......To which the answer is No.

It is what we like to do Robert..........so keep asking because it will help you to pick up some tips along the way.

Prickles. :-)

Hi Robert

Most of us helpers use Ancestry or Find My Past to search for records

FreeBMD and FreeReg are also good form BMDs

Susan, dont quite know where i got Benjaman from, but I new i had made a mistake,

thanks one and all for all this info,

Thelma yesterday stated William Dyson was Thomas Dysons Father, but looking under marriages here, is there 2 possibilities in Emley marriages 1811and 1812, also who would be Williams father? wont ask any more after this!
Am i working you too hard?
WII have to do my own homework!

Hannah with mother Mary in 1861

1861 England Census
about Hannah Dyson Name:Hannah Dyson
Age:30
Estimated birth year:1831
Relation:Daughter
Mother's name:Mary Dyson
Gender:Female
Where born: Kirkburton, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Kirkburton
Town:Kirkburton
County/Island:Yorkshire
Country:England
Street address: Thorncliffe
Registration district:Huddersfield
Sub-registration district:Kirkburton

Household Members
:
Mary Dyson 70 (Farmer of 10 Acres of Land) Born Flockton
Hannah Dyson 30
Mary Dyson 2 (Grandaughter)


Hannah is a servant in 1851...

1851 England Census
about Hannah Dyson Name:Hannah Dyson
Age:21
Estimated birth year:abt 1830
Relation:Servant
Gender:Female
Where born:Kirkburton, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Kirkburton
Town:Kirkburton
County/Island:Yorkshire
Country:England

Household Members:

Daniel Birkett 41
Harriet Dawson 23 (Servant) Kirkburton
Hannah Dyson 21

I am wondering if Harriet is actually Hannah's sister and her surname has been mistranscribed and should read Dyson!

This looks to be Henry with his mother on the 1841 census...

(Thomas is not with the family......I have looked but I can't seem to find him)


1841 England Census
about Henry Dyson
Name:Henry Dyson
Age:18
Estimated birth year:abt 1823
Gender:Male
Where born:Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Kirk Burton
Hundred:Agbrigg (Upper Division)
County/Island:Yorkshire
Country:England
Street address:>>>>Thornecliffe
Registration district:Huddersfield
Sub-registration district:Kirkburton

Household Members:

Mary Dyson 50 (Ind)
George Dyson 20
Henry Dyson 18
Sarah Dyson 14
Harriot Dyson 13
Hannah Dyson 11

I have yet to find a baptism for George.



England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Sarah Dyson Name:Sarah Dyson
Gender:Female Birth Date:
7 May 1827
Baptism Date:10 Jun 1827
Baptism Place:Kirkburton, York, England
Father: William Dyson
Mother: Mary Dyson
FHL Film Number:993690
Reference ID:bk 9 p 72

I'm not seeing a baptism for Harriot.



West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
about Hannah Dyson Name:Hannah Dyson
Parish:Kirkburton, All Hallows
Baptism Date:10 Jan 1830
Father's Name:William Dyson (Cooper) Thorncliffe
Mother's name:Mary Dyson

Hi Robert

Where did you find the information that Benjaman is the father of William?

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Name: Ann Dyson
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 14 Feb 1858
Christening Place: Kirkburton, York, England
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Dyson
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02869-6
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 993691
Reference ID: yr 1857-1867 p 6

Name: William Kershaw Dyson
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 25 Dec 1859
Christening Place: Kirkburton, York, England
Father's Name: Thomas Dyson
Mother's Name: Betty
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02869-6
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 993691
Reference ID: yr 1857-1867

Name: Henry Dyson
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 21 May 1856
Christening Place: Kirkburton, York, England
Father's Name: Thomas Dyson
Mother's Name: Betty Dyson
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00970-6
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 993690
Reference ID: bk 11 p 266

Name: Thomas Dyson
Birth Date: 1817
Birthplace:
Age: 38
Spouse's Name: Betty Lockwood
Spouse's Birth Date: 1815
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 40
Event Date: 04 Nov 1855
Event Place: Parish Church Of Kirkburton, York, England
Father's Name: William Dyson
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Hershaw
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03078-8
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 993693
Reference ID: 176

from the new thread, which you should now delete please :-)

First apologies if I have posted wrong, as not the best on the internet,
Carrying on from a thread i started 8th May, I see William Dyson is the father of Thomas Dyson b1817, but which are the correct records to see this,
also Benjaman Dyson is Williams father, again which is the correct record to view.
I realy would appreciate any help here, thanks.

have you looked on familysearch for records prior to 1837 ?

Link :
https://familysearch.org/search

People with experience of researching never use GR for research

Read the tips threads at the top of this board to find out where to look for info

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1340325

This gives Thomas' father

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935 about Thomas Dyson
Name: Thomas Dyson
Birth Year: abt 1817
Age: 38
Marriage or Bann Date: 4 Nov 1855
Parish: Kirkburton, All Hallows
Father's Name: William Dyson
Spouse's Name: Betty Lockwood
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Kershaw