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8 May 2014 19:05 |
HI, Very new to this hobby and GR, managed to trace my family back to my Great grandfather using census records, but now want to go further back in time,, before 1857, date of his birth, what is the correct way to trace his parents and there address, so not to make any assumptions, as I can see there are others with the same name and birth date within a few miles, and it would be guessing to use these, (Henry Dyson,born 1857,of Shelley, nr Huddersfield,---married toAnnDyson, occ Boot maker
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PricklyHolly
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8 May 2014 19:17 |
Hi Robert and welcome to the boards.
If this is him in the 1881 census.......he has his Mother Betty with him and Brother William K Dyson...
1881 England Census about Henry Dyson Name:Henry Dyson Age:24 Estimated birth year:abt 1857 Relationship to Head:Head Spouse:Ann Dyson Mother:Betty Dyson Gender:Male Where born:Shelley, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish:Shelley County/Island:Yorkshire Country:England Street address:Shelley Near Bank Marital Status:Married Household Members:
Henry Dyson 24 Ann Dyson 24 William Hy. Dyson 10 months Betty Dyson 66 (Mother) Widow....Shelley Yorkshire William K. Dyson 21 (Brother) Woolen Warper....Shelley Yorkshire
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PricklyHolly
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8 May 2014 19:23 |
1871 England Census about Henry Dyson Name: Henry Dyson Age:14 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation:Son Mother's name:Betty Dyson Gender:Male Where born:Shelley, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish:Shelley Ecclesiastical parish:Shelley Town:Shelley County/Island:Yorkshire Country:England Registration district:Huddersfield Sub-registration district:Kirkburton
Household Members:
Betty Dyson 55 (Widow) Henry Dyson 14 (Boot Shoe Maker) William Dyson 11
1861 England Census about Henry Dyson Name:Henry Dyson Age:5 Estimated birth year:1856 Relation:Son Father's Name:Thomas Dyson Mother's name:Betty Dyson Gender:Male Where born:Shelley, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish:Shelley Town:Shelley County/Island:Yorkshire Country:England
Household Members:
Thomas Dyson 44 (Ag Lab) Emley Yorkshire Betty Dyson 46 Jonathan Lockwood 19 >>>>Wife's Son Henry Dyson 5 William Dyson 1
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PricklyHolly
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8 May 2014 19:33 |
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Henry Dyson Name:Henry Dyson Gender:Male Baptism Date:21 May 1856 Baptism Place:Kirkburton, York, England Father: Thomas Dyson (Labourer) Abode Shelley Mother: Betty Dyson FHL Film Number:993690
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PricklyHolly
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8 May 2014 19:58 |
If I am on the right track???
Going by the wife's son Jonathan Lockwood.........
Marriages Dec 1855 (>99%) DYSON Thomas Huddersfield 9a 394 LOCKWOOD Betty Huddersfield 9a 394
West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935 about Thomas Dyson (Bachelor) Farmer.....Thorncliffe Birth Year:abt 1817 Age:38 Marriage or Bann Date:4 Nov 1855 Parish:Kirkburton, All Hallows Father's Name:William Dyson (Cooper) Spouse's Name:Betty Lockwood Spouse's Father's Name:Thomas Kershaw (Clothier) Witnesses: William (Parkin?) and George Kershaw
Thomas Dyson's baptism...
West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Thomas Dyson Name:Thomas Dyson Parish:Emley, St Michael Baptism Date:25 Dec 1817 Father's Name:William Dyson (Cooper) Mother's name:Mary Dyson
Thomas in 1851....
1851 England Census about Thomas Dyson Name:Thomas Dyson Age:34 Estimated birth year:abt 1817 Relation:Son Mother's name:Mary Dyson Gender:Male Where born:Emley, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish:Kirkburton Ecclesiastical parish:Kirkburton County/Island:Yorkshire Country:England Registration district:Huddersfield Sub-registration district:Newmill
Household Members:
Mary Dyson 60 (Widow) Farmer of 11 Acres.....Born Flockton Thomas Dyson 34 (Farmer Labourer) Henry Dyson 28 (Fancy Weaver) Res: Thorncliffe
Henry's baptsm...
West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Henry Dyson Name:Henry Dyson Parish:Emley, St Michael Baptism Date:20 Oct 1822 Father's Name:Willm Dyson (Cooper) Mother's name:Mary Dyson
Betty with son Jonathan in 1851.....
1851 England Census about Jonathan Lockwood Name:Jonathan Lockwood Age:9 Estimated birth year:abt 1842 Relation:Son Mother's name:Betty Lockwood Gender:Male Where born:Shelley, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish:Kirkburton Town:Shelley County/Island:Yorkshire Country:England Registration district:Huddersfield Sub-registration district:Newmill
:Household Members:
Betty Lockwood 36 (Widow) Mary Lockwood 18 Joah Lockwood 15 Jonathan Lockwood 9 John Kershaw 20 (Lodger)<<<<<<<Interesting! A Relative?
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PricklyHolly
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8 May 2014 20:15 |
1841 England Census about Bethy Lockwood >>>>>Betty on the image Age:25 Estimated birth year:abt 1816 Gender:Female Where born:Yorkshire, England Civil Parish:Kirk Burton Hundred:Agbrigg (Upper Division) County/Island:Yorkshire Country:England Registration district:Huddersfield Sub-registration district:Kirkburton
Household Members:
Jonn Lockwood 32 (Factory Weaver) Bethy Lockwood 25 Mary Lockwood 8 Jock Lockwood 5 Thomas Lockwood 2
On the image, Jonn........looks more like Jon with a squiggle, which might indicate that his name was actually Jonathan.
4 possible deaths registered for a Jonathan Lockwood in Huddersfield between 1841 and 1851 which you can check out on this free site.....
www.freebmd.org.uk
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alviegal
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8 May 2014 20:19 |
fmp version
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Print this page View image First Name BETTY Last Name LOCKWOOD Age 25 Year Of Birth 1816 Gender Female Occupation - House Number - House Name - Street SHELLEY BANK Parish KIRKBURTON City - Town SHELLEY Registration District HUDDERSFIELD County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding) Country ENGLAND Birth County YORKSHIRE Archive Reference HO107 Schedule 1943 Piece Number 1277 Folio 41 Page 11
JONN LOCKWOOD 30 1811 Image Transcription BETTY LOCKWOOD 25 1816 Image Transcription MARY LOCKWOOD 8 1833 Image Transcription JOAH LOCKWOOD 5 1836 Image Transcription THOMAS LOCKWOOD 2 1839
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alviegal
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8 May 2014 20:22 |
Huddersfield Baptisms Transcription First Name JOAH Last Name LOCKWOOD Country England Record set Huddersfield Baptisms County Yorkshire Year 1836 Mother's Given Name Betty Father's First Name Jonathan First Names Joah Month May Year Of Birth 1835 Address Shelley Place KIRKBURTON Birth Day 15 Birth Month May Birth Year 1835 Year 1836 Chapelry - Description All Hallows Father Occupation Weaver Day 30
Huddersfield Baptisms Transcription First Name THOMAS Last Name LOCKWOOD Country England Record set Huddersfield Baptisms County Yorkshire Year 1838 Mother's Given Name Betty Father's First Name Jonathan First Names Thomas Month Oct Year Of Birth 1838 Address Shelley Place KIRKBURTON Birth Day - Birth Month - Birth Year - Year 1838 Chapelry - Description All Hallows Father Occupation Weaver Day 08
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PricklyHolly
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8 May 2014 20:24 |
As Robert is a new member I will send him a message to let him know he has received replies.
He can then let us know if we are on the right track.
Prickles. :-)
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PricklyHolly
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8 May 2014 20:29 |
Ah, so the Fathers name is Jonathan.
Jolly good!
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8 May 2014 20:38 |
West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Mary Lockwood Name:Mary Lockwood Birth Date:7 Jan 1833 Parish:Kirkburton, All Hallows Baptism Date:7 Apr 1833 Father's Name:Jonathan Lockwood (Fancy? Factory? Weaver) Abode Shelley Mother's name:Betty Lockwood
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8 May 2014 21:04 |
Thomas Dyson, "England Marriages, 1538–1973 " Name: Thomas Dyson Birth Date: 1817 Birthplace: Age: 38 Spouse's Name: Betty Lockwood Spouse's Birth Date: 1815 Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: 40 Event Date: 04 Nov 1855 Event Place: Parish Church Of Kirkburton, York, England Father's Name: William Dyson Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Hershaw Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03078-8 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 993693 Reference ID: 176
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PricklyHolly
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8 May 2014 21:07 |
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West Yorkshire, Non-Conformist Records, 1646-1985 about Jonathan Lockwood Name:Jonathan Lockwood Birth Date:10 Apr 1810 Event Type:Baptism Father:Thomas Lockwood Mother:Hannah Lockwood Baptism Date:31 Jul 1810 Archive Location:Kirklees Parish or Chapel:Kirkburton Residence Place:Shelley Reel Number: Huddersfield, Kirkburton, Marsden, Paddock, Shelley, Soothill; K 6
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8 May 2014 21:09 |
Betty Kershaw, "England Marriages, 1538–1973 " Name: Jonathan Lockwood Birth Date: Birthplace: Age: Spouse's Name: Betty Kershaw Spouse's Birth Date: Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: Event Date: 06 Jan 1833 Event Place: Kirkburton, York, England Father's Name: Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03318-9 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 990702 Reference ID: yr 1821-1837 p 1
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8 May 2014 21:12 |
England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970 about Betty Hershaw Name:Betty Hershaw Birth Date:15 Nov 1814 Birth Place:Kirkburton, Yorkshire, England Gender:Female Event Type:Birth Father:Thomas Hershaw Mother:Mary Hershaw Denomination:Independent Piece Title: Piece 3396: Kirkburton, Upper Church (Independent), 1795-1823
Edit: It seems there is a discrepancy between Hershaw and Kershaw!
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about William Kershaw Dyson Name:William Kershaw Dyson Gender:Male Baptism Date:25 Dec 1859 Baptism Place:Kirkburton, York, England Father: Thomas Dyson Mother: Betty FHL Film Number:993691 Reference ID:yr 1857-1867
Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%) CARTWRIGHT Elizabeth Huddersfield 9a 680 DYSON William Kershaw Huddersfield 9a 680
1911 England Census about William Kershaw Dyson Name:William Kershaw Dyson Age in 1911:51 Estimated birth year:abt 1860 Relation to Head:Head Gender:Male Birth Place:Shelley, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish:Shelley County/Island:Yorkshire-West Riding Country:England Street address:Shelley Marital Status:Married .....27 Years Occupation:Sub Postmaster Registration district:Huddersfield Registration District Number:495 Sub-registration district:Kirkburton Household Members:
William Kershaw Dyson 51 Elizabeth Dyson 54 Emily Lee 46 (Sister) Widow Ivy Lee 18 (Niece)
(No children born to the marriage)
Emily is Elizabeth's sister who married Ben Lee in 1887
Marriages Jun 1887 (>99%) Cartwright Emily Huddersfield 9a 528 Lee Ben Huddersfield 9a 528
West Yorkshire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985 about William Kershaw Dyson Name:William Kershaw Dyson Birth Year:abt 1859 Parish:Shelley, Emmanuel Abode: Town End Shelley Burial Date:4 Jun 1936 Burial Age:77
Wife Elizabeth's death...
West Yorkshire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985 about Elizabeth Dyson Name:Elizabeth Dyson Birth Year:abt 1857 Parish:Shelley, Emmanuel Burial Date:6 Feb 1915 Burial Age:58
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alviegal
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8 May 2014 21:12 |
There is a tree on ancestry with all this information so looks like we have the correct line.
Thomas Kershaw
No Mother
Betty Kershaw Birth abt 1815 in Shelley, Yorkshire, England
Jonathan Lockwood 1807 – 1843
Mary Lockwood 1833 –
Joah Lockwood 1836 –
Jonathan Lockwood 1842 –
Thomas Dyson 1817 – 1879
Henry Dyson 1857 –
William Kershaw Dyson 1859 – 1936
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alviegal
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8 May 2014 21:16 |
From ancestry
West Yorkshire, Non-Conformist Records, 1646-1985 about Betty Kershaw Name: Betty Kershaw Birth Date: 15 Nov 1814 Event Type: Baptism Father: Thomas Kershaw Mother: Mary Kershaw Baptism Date: Oct 1814 Archive Location: Kirklees Parish or Chapel: Shelley Reel Number: Huddersfield, Kirkburton, Marsden, Paddock, Shelley, Soothill; K 6
Her birth is on https://familysearch.org
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RobertD
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8 May 2014 21:21 |
Thanks to all for this helpful information, will take me a while to decipher!!
regards Robert
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RobertD
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8 May 2014 21:21 |
Thanks to all for this helpful information, will take me a while to decipher!!
regards Robert
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PricklyHolly
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8 May 2014 21:25 |
Good to see you found your way back to this thread Robert.
Take your time to decipher the info........and let us know if you think we are on the right track.
Prickles.
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