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Lost thread! Elizabeth Everson c1806 Dartford Kent

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Rose

Rose Report 1 May 2014 12:08

I appear to have lost a thread for Elizabeth Everson c1806 Dartford Kent.
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I think there were 2 ladies involved in the search, it was very indepth

Elizabeth was sent back to the area her father was born as she was expecting an illegitimate child.

Is it possible to find this thread please


Thank you

Rose

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 1 May 2014 12:19

Hi Rose...

If it was a thread you posted or one you posted on....

Have you looked in "My Threads" on the left hand side under "Tools" ??

Rose

Rose Report 1 May 2014 12:27

Yes I have looked thru' every one of my threads but it is not there. Must admit it was a long time ago. Didnt bother to transfer the info as I thought if I kept it on here I could go back it it any time I needed to!!

Rose

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 1 May 2014 13:30

Perhaps you posted on another forum? Ihave done that before.

I googled Elizabeth Everson and Dartford and ther are a few results.

You posted on here.
http://genforum.genealogy.com/everson/messages/480.html


ah found it :-D
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/tips_board/thread/1153070

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 May 2014 13:37

There was also another thread, which was deleted at some stage

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 1 May 2014 13:41

The link on the thread I found does not exist. I suspect that is the one you were looking for. There is still a fair amount on google though.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 May 2014 13:44

The thread you posted above DOES exist.........that's where I found out about the deleted one!

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 1 May 2014 14:05

That is what I said Reggie.

I thought I Ihad found the original and posted it. I followed the link and I am guessing that is the one about Elizabeth and it did not work.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 May 2014 16:02

Have managed to work out what you were trying to convey.

Why do people delete threads which have valuable info on them?

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 1 May 2014 18:12

\it sounds like Rose has not done this intentionally.

Rose

Rose Report 2 May 2014 10:15

Thank you for your help everybody. it was worth trying!

Rose

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 3 May 2014 21:55

Anything you want to know?

Rose

Rose Report 4 May 2014 14:47

Hello LadyKira,
I was given a possible marriage 12/9/1830 Holborn to William West, lived in Hammersmith with his 2 children. Assume this info abt 2 children was taken from a census but cannot find it now!

I did not take note of the 2 children and would like to see where they went from Hammersmith.

Thank you
Rose

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 May 2014 22:49

Rose, is this the Elizabeth Everson in question?

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"

Name: Elizabeth Everson
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 25 May 1806
Christening Place: DARTFORD,KENT,ENGLAND

Father's Name: William Everson
Mother's Name: Mary

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03654-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 396472, 396473

From FamilySearch https://familysearch.org/

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2014 11:28

Hi Rose

I have found the marriage

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Elizabeth Eveson
Name: Elizabeth Eveson
Spouse Name: William West
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 12 Sep 1830ion.
Parish: St Andrew Holborn
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Register

It was by banns and does not state any other useful information.

I have also found a conversation you had with Graham on another site.

You believe this is them in 1841
1841 census
Civil Parish Hammersmith
Hundred Ossulstone (Kensington Divn)
Street address George Street
William West 41 Carrier
Elizabeth West 40 not born in County
George West 15
Edward West 13

That would indicate possibly William was previoulsly married as the children were born beore then

You also think this is one of their children
from IGI
Elizabeth West christening 10/3/1833 St Paul, Hammersmith, London
Father William West
Mother Elizabeth but found no further trace.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2014 12:10

You also believe that Elizabeth had a son Alfred ci827 illegitemately with William Curtis and it is Alfred you are trying to prove.

You think that Alfred is the illegitimate child of Elizabeth, daughter of William Everson and Mary Jones.

Original Pallots baptism in Hammersmith of Alfred in 1826 tells that the parents are Elizabeth Everson and William Curtis.
IGI
Alfred Curtiss christening 26/2/1826 Hammersmith, London
Father William Curtiss
Mother Elizabeth Everson

Graham's tree on Ancestry with regard to Elizabeth Everson has an entry on 11 November 1825 aged 19 under the heading Poor Law Removal from Dartford, Kent to the Parish of Fulham in the County of Middlesex. Probably when she found herself pregnant?

Seems like Mary aged 60 on the 1841 census was Alfred's grandmother. I think that Alfred used his Uncle James name on his marriage certificate.

1841 England Census about Alfred Everson
Name: Alfred Everson
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England
Civil Parish: Dartford
Hundred: Axton, Dartford and Wilmington
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Dartford
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 482
Book: 5
Folio: 24
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Everson 60
Ann Everson 20
Alfred Everson 14

"On the 1841 census I have found a Mary Everson 60 with daughter Ann age 20 and son Alfred age 14(Smith) living in Overy Street Dartford. On 1851 census Mary is still living in Overy Street with her daughter Ann, Ann's husband William Rusbridge and their daughter Mary Ann. Alfred married Mary Ponting in 1848, Waterloo, Surrey. Marriage certificate states Alfreds father as James Everson, Blacksmith. I have not been able to find anything on James!

On every census since Alfred left home he has insisted that he was born in Hammersmith but I cannot find an Alfred born in Hammersmith. Mary Ponting was born in Dartford and l of their daughters was born 1850 Dartford, 2nd and 3rd children born Farningham 1854 and 1857. Their last child Alfred Emmanuel was born 1861 in Plumstead.

It seems very strange not to find an Alfred born in Hammersmith abt 1827 and this Alfred Everson apparently born in Dartford. On 1861 census when Alfred was living in Plumstead, it shows Edward 23, cousin (Blacksmith)born Dartford as a boarder with Alfred and his family. "

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2014 12:18

You have been in debate about his father being William or James.

This is the second marriage for Alfred and he again states his father is James.
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Alfred Everson
Name: Alfred Everson
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Age: 53
Spouse Name: Eliza Sloss
Spouse Age: 33
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Mar 1886
Parish: Plumstead St Nicholas
Borough: Greenwich
Father Name: James Everson
Spouse Father: James Sloss
Register Type: Parish Register

This does not make sense if his mother was Elizabeth Everson single woman. I think you may need to look at this again. :-S

Rose

Rose Report 5 May 2014 12:30

Hi ladykira,

Yes this is the Elizabeth I was looking for. I am so sorry to have put you through all that! I did not realise I had told Graham what had been found. I must have told him straight from the GR site without writing down the details on my familly record sheet thinking I could go back to it any time.

Are you able to find anything after the 1841 census please.

Most grateful
Rose

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2014 12:46

Looks like Graeme now agrees with you.

Birth
1825Hammersmith, London, England
Posted by GraemeDavis
Comment


Christening
1826Hammersmith, St. Paul, Middlesex
Posted by GraemeDavis
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Residence
1841Dartford, Kent, England
Posted by GraemeDavis
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Residence: With Grandmother Mary Everson (Jones)
1841Overy St, Dartford
Posted by GraemeDavis
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Marriage: As Alfred Everson "son Of James Everson".
1848Waterloo, Surrey
Posted by GraemeDavis
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Residence
1851Dartford, Kent, England
Posted by GraemeDavis
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Residence
1861Plumstead, Kent, England
Posted by GraemeDavis
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Residence
1861Plumstead, Kent, England
Posted by GraemeDavis
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Residence
1861Plumstead, Kent, England
Posted by GraemeDavis
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Residence
1871Plumstead, Kent, England
Posted by GraemeDavis
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Residence
1881Plumstead, London, England
Posted by GraemeDavis
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Job: Blacksmith
1881Plumstead, Kent, England
Posted by GraemeDavis
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Marriage
1886Plumstead St Nicholas, England
Posted by GraemeDavis
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Residence
1891Erith, Kent, England
Posted by GraemeDavis
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Death
1900Dartford District
Posted by GraemeDavis
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LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2014 12:50

http://www.uk.mundia.com/gb/Person/15377/-492969369

The conversation is on the first link I posted.