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So, do you intend to pursue the family links?
You have not acknowledged the info found for you.
Have you tried researching at all?

Keep coming back to this in 1901 but can't find same family in 1911



Name:
Gladys Jones
Age:1
Estimated birth year:abt 1900

Relation to Head:Daughter
Father:Richard Jones
Mother:Elizabeth A Jones

Birth Place:Winchcombe, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish:Winchcombe
Ecclesiastical parish:Winchcombe St Peter
Town:Winchcombe
County/Island:Gloucestershire

Registration district:Winchcombe
Sub-registration district: Guiting <<<<


Richard Jones 40 - BAKER
Elizabeth A Jones 37
Thomas Jones 15
Winnie Jones 11
Nora Jones 6
Gladys Jones 1

Found them ...but no Freda so probably wrong family

1911

Richard Jones 51
Elizabeth Jones 47
Thomas Jones 25
Nora Jones 16
Gladys Jones 12
Clifford Jones 7
Connie Jones 6
Dorothy Jones 5

Mike* - re that 1911, I know it's a bit of a stretch, but could 'Connie' be a diminutive for her middle name Cornwall?

OK, It's reaching....

???

That couple had been married for 29 yrs in census 1911, I know bride's surname is Carey not Baker, but she has Baker as a name...

JONES Richard CAREY Elizabeth Alberta Baker Cheltenham Winchcombe Register Office Closed 1882 1 159

Marriages Jun 1882

CAREY Elizabeth Alberta B Winchcomb 6a 723
Jones Richard Winchcombe 6a 723

Full info for 1911



First Name CONNIE
Last Name JONES
Relationship DAUGHTER
Condition -
Gender Female
Year Of Birth 1905
Age 6
Occupation -
Address GLOUCESTERSHIRE ST WINCHCOMBE
Parish WINCHCOMBE
County Gloucestershire
Country ENGLAND
Where Born GLOS WINCHCOMBE
Year Of Marriage -
Years Of Marriage -
Archive Reference RG14
Piece Number 15505
Census Reference RG14PN15505 RG78PN944 RD332 SD1 ED9 SN110
Registration District WINCHCOMB
Registration District Number 332
Sub District GUITING
Enumeration District 9
SubDistrict Number 1


First Name Last Name Relationship Year Of Birth Age Where Born
RICHARD JONES HEAD 1860 51 GLOS CAMPDEN Image Transcription
ELIZABETH JONES WIFE 1864 47 GLOS WINCHCOMBE Image Transcription
THOMAS JONES SON 1886 25 GLOS WINCHCOMBE Image Transcription
NORA JONES DAUGHTER 1895 16 GLOS WINCHCOMBE Image Transcription
GLADYS JONES DAUGHTER 1899 12 GLOS WINCHCOMBE Image Transcription
CLIFFORD JONES SON 1904 7 GLOS WINCHCOMBE Image Transcription
DOROTHY JONES GRAND-DAUGHTER 1906 5 LONDON Image Transcription

12 children.......4 have died

???

Possible birth for Elizabeth Alberta Baker Carey?

As mother was also Carey, was Elizabeth A B illegitimate, but given the third name Baker because it was her father's?

And she chose to consider Baker as her rightful maiden name.?

OK, reaching again....

CAREY Elizabeth A B CAREY 1863 Cheltenham Winchcombe, Guiting 10 132

Births Sep 1863 CAREY Elizabeth Alberta Baker Winchcomb 6a 339

If Heather wishes to pursue this with accuracy, she will need to obtain a copy of the birth cert for Freda

BUT..........she didn't comment on all the info, so perhaps she doesn't wish to.

???

A Baker- Carey marriage

BAKER Thomas CAREY Sarah Cheltenham Winchcombe St Peter 1870 2 8

Mmm maybe .... but where is Freda and Llewellyn in 1911?


I thought maybe Elizabeth had been married twice but Baker was a christian name


Name:
Elizabeth Alberta Baker Carey

Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1863
Registration district:Winchcomb
Inferred County:Gloucestershire
Volume:6a
Page:339

Reggie posted Llewellyn's death earlier, I'm positing that Connie is Freda, and that Connie is a diminutive of her middle name Cornwall.

Well, I did say it was a reach...

Reggie posted Victor's death (Llewellyn's twin)

Llewellyn only died in 1918

What would be ace would be to find an Elizabeth A B Carey or Baker living with this couple in the census....

Marriages Sep 1870
BAKER Thomas Humphries Winchcombe 6a 607
Carey Sarah Hannah Winchcombe 6a 607

Drat, you're right about Llewellyn.

Mea Culpa!

?????????????

1871 - Totnes Devon

Thomas H Baker 31
Sarah I Baker 28
William Baker 7
Elizabeth A Baker 5 <<<<<<<<
Rosina Baker 3
Thomas A Baker 2
Elizabeth Tucker 34
George Tucker 4

But......

Is this Elizabeth Alberta living with her now married parents, and using her father's name, not the mother's name of Carey she was born under?

Census 1871

First Name ALBERTA<<<<<<<<<<
Last Name BAKER<<<<<<<
Relationship DAUGHTER
Condition -
Gender Female
Age 7
Occupation -
Year Of Birth 1864
Birth Town -
Birth Place -
Birth County GLOUCESTERSHIRE
House Number -
House Name -
Street HAILES STREET
Parish WINCHCOMBE
Town WINCHCOMBE
City -
County Gloucestershire
Country ENGLAND
Registration District WINCHCOMB
Archive Reference RG10
Piece Number 2656
Folio 113
Page 2
Record set 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Record collection Census
Collections from Great Britain

Other Household Members

THOMAS BAKER HEAD 32 born Winchcombe1839<<<<<<<<<<<<<
SARAH BAKER WIFE 29 1842 born Stanway (?) <<<<<<<

By jove I think you're cracked it...

1871

Alberta Baker
Age:7
Estimated birth year:abt 1864

Father's Name:Thomas Baker
Mother's name:Sarah Baker

Where born:Winchcombe, Gloucestershire
Town:Winchcombe
County/Island:Gloucestershire
Registration district:Winchcomb
Sub-registration district:Guiting


Thomas Baker 32
Sarah Baker 29 - Stanway, Gloucestershire
Alberta Baker 7


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in 1881 she's down as Bertha


Sarah Baker 39 widow - -Stanway, Gloucestershire
Bertha Baker 17 - Winchcombe
Esthor Baker 9
Emma Baker 5

I was only following your gut instinct about that family , Mike. :-)

And all the cumulative evidence everyone else had addd to the thread re Gladys Baker Jones etc.

BTW, could you edit 'cacked it' :-0

;-)

ha ha .... have done.
Far too excited !

That's better....

Thanks for the edit, Mike*.