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please could someone help me im unable to get past my great grandmother cannot find out maiden name although i know her marraige birth death much appreciated

If you care to post some details of your gt grandmother we can see what we can do to help :-)

Welcome to the boards, Margaret. Lots of people on here willing to help but we need more info.

What was your ggmother's married name? Who and when did she marry and when and where was she born?

As you know who she married, look for his names, coupled with her first name, on freebmd

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

..................assuming that this refers to England or Wales, of course.

You say you know her marriage so I can't understand why you don't know her maiden name?

perhaps she just knows the date :-S

I'll send her a message to come back

Hello and thanks for replys i do know my great grandmas maiden name i cant find her mother s maiden name here is the info
margaret rilley (maiden name) died 1951 rochdale there are different accounts for her birth 1879/ 1884
herbert tommins (first marraige)
edward riley (father)
edward duffy (second husband) married in 1920/1921 died 1957 rochdale
children that we know of mary tommins 1907
helen tommins 1915
margaret duffy 1920 16/08/1920/1- died 10/04/1995
hilda duffy 1923
I have got marraige certificate for margaret and edward duffy but doesn't show mother only fathers names on
she had a sister amelia and bridget so my mum thought but found a birth for amelia whos mother was riley so not sure if amelia her daughter

The family in 1911:

Name:Mary Tommins
Age in 1911:8
Estimated birth year:abt 1903
Relation to Head:Daughter
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Salford
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:2 Browns Place Salford
Occupation:Scholar
Registration district:Salford Registration District Number:
465
Sub-registration district:Broughton
ED, institution, or vessel:1
Piece:23977

Herbert Tommins 34 b Manchester
Marget Tommins 32 b Mancester
Mary Tommins 8 b Manchester
Melia Tommins 4 b Salford

Possible for 1891 - Edward is a Bricklayer's Labourer. What is the father's occupation on the marriage cert?


Margaret Kiley
[Margaret Riley]
Age:13
Estimated birth year:abt 1878
Relation:Daughter
Father's Name:Edward Kiley
Mother's name:Mary Kiley
Gender:Female
Where born:Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish:St Michael
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England

Edward Kiley 50 b Ireland
Mary Kiley 48 b Ireland
Elizabeth Kiley 18
Margaret Kiley 13




Just found the 1899 marriage image - Edward's occupation Bricklayer

First marriage date:

Marriages Jun 1899 (>99%)
Riley Margaret Manchester 8d 406
Tommons Herbert Manchester 8d 406


????
Births Dec 1877 (>99%)
Tomims Herbert Manchester 8d 258

yes thats it same as that on certificate when married edward duffy , i know fathers name dont know how to find her mothers name maiden

Name:
Margaret Riley

Birth Year:abt 1878
Age:21

Marriage Date:25 May 1899

Parish:Ancoats, St Jude
Parish as it Appears:Manchester, St Jude

Father's Name:Edward Riley - Bricklayer

Spouse's Name:Hubert Tommons ( Herbert on Original)

Spouse's Father's Name:James Tommons


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1891 census

[Margaret Riley] ON ORIGINAL
Age:13
Estimated birth year:abt 1878

Relation:Daughter

Father's Name:Edward Kiley
Mother's name:Mary Kiley

Where born:Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Manchester

Ecclesiastical parish:St Michael
County/Island:Lancashire
Registration district:Manchester
Sub-registration district:St George


Edward Kiley 50 - BRICKLAYER'S LABOURER - Born IRELAND
Mary Kiley 48 - born Ireland
Elizabeth Kiley 18 - Manchester
Margaret Kiley 13 - Manchester
Mary Crow 60 - lodger
Elizabeth S 19 - lodger

Again, a possible in 1881:
Margaret Riley
Age:4
Estimated birth year:abt 1877
Relationship to Head:Lodger
Gender:Female
Where born:Manchester
Civil Parish:Manchester

Street address:21 Baker St
Patrick Turner 37
Satella Turner 30
Mary Riley 37 unmarried, b Galway Ireland
Ed. Riley 40 married, b Galway Ireland, Bricksetter's labourer
Mary Murphy 30
Mary E. Riley 16
Elizabeth A. Riley 9
Margaret Riley 4
Mary Ellen Collister 10

The layout of the form is a bit unusual; all except the Turners are Lodgers and the relationships aren't shown.

1871

Edward Riley 30 - Bricklayer's Lab
Mary Riley 30 - Rag sorter
William Riley 10
Mary Riley 6
John Riley 1



Maybe parents married in Ireland.
Mother's maiden name would be on child's birth cert

so do you think mary murphy maybe her mother unlikely to be mary riley maybe that edwards sister

Death 1952, not 1951:

Deaths Dec 1952 (>99%)
DUFFY Margaret 73 Rochdale 10f 367

Another possibility for 1881:


1881 England Census about Margaret Riley
Name: Margaret Riley
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relationship to Head: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 269 Queens Rd
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4003
Folio: 17
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
John Bonsfield 37
Margaret Bonsfield 47
James Thos. Bonsfield 14
Anthony Bonsfield 12
Michael Edward Bonsfield 10
Ralph Bonsfield 8
Margaret Riley 1

so i need to send for margaret rileys birth certificate but not sure which margarets her

so i need to send for margaret rileys birth certificate but not sure which margarets her

Birth cert would show mother's name.
Death record above implies birth c1879. These are the nearest per FreeBMD:


Births Jun 1877 (>99%)
RILEY Margaret Mary Manchester 8d 297
RILEY Margaretta Manchester 8d 345

Births Dec 1877 (>99%)
RILEY Margaret Manchester 8d 304
RILEY Margaret Ann Manchester 8d 320

Births Mar 1880 (>99%)
RILEY Margaret Graham Manchester 8d 297