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Pauline

Pauline Report 24 Nov 2013 18:47

I am trying to find details of the above birth on 6th April 1914 Manchester for a friend
Have found his sister Edith in 1919, and also his death and two marriages i have tried FMP and Family search, do not have access to Ancestry. I thought that with such a name would be easy!!
Any help please?

Pauline

Pauline Report 24 Nov 2013 18:50

Forgot to add Mothers name Hudson, which I have also tried!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Nov 2013 18:52

Hello Pauline, when did his parents marry - might he have been born before that?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 24 Nov 2013 18:55

Could this be the parents? Curious!

Marriages Dec 1914 (>99%)
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Booth Ada Lingard Prestwich 8d 564
Hudson Eva Watson Prestwich 8d 564
Hudson Eva Mosoph Prestwich 8d 564
Lingard John W Booth Prestwich 8d 564
Mosoph William Hudson Prestwich 8d 564
Watson William M Hudson Prestwich 8d 564

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Pauline

Pauline Report 24 Nov 2013 18:57

Sorry Marie. As I said looking for a friend, guess i could look for it. My friend is curious about Ralph,. Wonder if Not same father as Edith?, as WW1 was in between?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Nov 2013 19:00

That's interesting Margee, looks like they married after the birth and the father was also known as Watson.

I guess Ralph may have been registered as Hudson.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 24 Nov 2013 19:00


England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Ralph Mosoph
Name: Ralph Mosoph
Spouse Surname: Hardy
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1935
Registration District: Manchester North
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8d
Page Number: 615
Spouse Ada Hardy

Pauline

Pauline Report 24 Nov 2013 19:01

Margee
Could be looks a possible Right area
It's the birth we can't find.

Pauline

Pauline Report 24 Nov 2013 19:03

Mel
Yes that's the first marriage to Ada, and there was a son also called Ralp.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 24 Nov 2013 19:07

So do I take it your friend does not have any of the marriage certs?

Pauline

Pauline Report 24 Nov 2013 19:07

Does that mean that father ' name was Watson, ?

alviegal

alviegal Report 24 Nov 2013 19:13

Could this be William?


1891 census transcription details for: 7, Woodbine Street, Salford
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 3221
Folio: 127
Page: 1
Reg. District: Salford
Sub District: Regent Road
Parish: Salford
Enum. District: 16
Ecclesiastical District: Christchurch
City/Municipal Borough: Salford
Address: 7, Woodbine Street, Salford
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
PARK, Richard Head Married M 58 1833 Tailor
Kendal, Westmorland
PARK, Annie Wife Married F 48 1843 Tailoress
Manchester, Lancashire
PARK, Theresa Daughter Single F 8 1883
Salford, Lancashire
MOSOPH, Emily Stepdaughter Single F 18 1873
Manchester, Lancashire
>>MOSOPH, William Step Grandson Single M 1 1890
Salford, Lancashire
ROSS, James Son In Law Married M 21 1870 Coal Carter
Salford, Lancashire
ROSS, Mary J Daughter Married F 20 1871
Salford, Lancashire
GRAHAM, Georgina Boarder Single F 24 1867 Towel Weaver
London

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 24 Nov 2013 19:13

Did your friend say that Edith was his sister please?

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 24 Nov 2013 19:16

Fom fmp

Name: MOSOPH, William
Registration district: Prestwich
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1914
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Hudson
Volume no: 8D
Page no: 564
Name: HUDSON, Eva
Registration district: Prestwich
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1914
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Watson Or Mosoph
Volume no: 8D
Page no: 564

odd the spouse seems to have two names

Pauline

Pauline Report 24 Nov 2013 19:23

Mel Yes Edith was sister

Lindain
Interesting, so mother was one with two names.
On Edith birth mother as Hudson, maybe watson was her first name?, Maybe she was married before?
Another angle to fo;;ow, thanks

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 24 Nov 2013 19:27

It looks to me as though it was Eva Hudson who married William Moseph but perhaps the name was misheard??

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 24 Nov 2013 19:37

I think Watson was a transcription error.

Births Mar 1890 Mosoph William Salford 8d 153

Christine

Christine Report 24 Nov 2013 20:31

I have recently found a Groom with two surnames in my family.
I then had to figure out which name the couple were using after the marriage!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Nov 2013 20:54

1911

Name: Eva Hudson
Age in 1911: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 60 Birtles St Rockdale Rd Manchester
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Japaner
Registration District: Manchester
Registration District Number: 466
Sub-registration District: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Piece: 24139
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Alice Hudson 57
Eva Hudson 20
George Hudson 17
James Hudson 14


Other than Edith's birth and her father William's marriage and birth, these are the only other Mosoph entries on freeBMD before 1920

Births Jun 1878 Mosoph John Edward Manchester 8d 357

Deaths Dec 1878 MOSOPH John Edward 0 Manchester 8d 234

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 24 Nov 2013 21:02

This just gets more complicated! On the 1891 census that Alviegal posted Emily Mosoph is a step-daughter of Richard Park. She's single, William Mosoph seems to be her son. But on the 1881 census she's Emily Park and a daughter of Richard & Annie. How did her name change when she wasn't married?