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Nicola

Nicola Report 8 Nov 2013 21:09

Thankyou Dea for the search it was a long shot I know, but as this address was mentioned by the Pleasance decendants, I thought it was worth a look to see if any Pleasance or Knapp's were living there in 1911. Another dead end but thanks for looking anyway.
Kind regards Nicky








































































Dea

Dea Report 9 Nov 2013 08:22

Nicola - about that address.......

You could try contacting the local library closest to that address and see if they would be willing to do an electoral roll look up for the year in question and perhaps a year either side?

Dea x

Nicola

Nicola Report 16 Nov 2013 20:05

I need help again!!
To all those who have helped with my research on my Pleasance/Knapp family so far. I have received the Birth cert of Frederick Robert Knapp,
details are: Frederick Robert Knapp, Born 14th April 1900 at 2.10am, 71 Warley Street, Bethnal Green. Father: William Wallace Knapp. Mother: Charlotte Knapp formerly Rees of 71 Warley Street, Bethnal Green.
To recap Frederick Robert Knapp was married in March 1925 as Frederick Robert Pleasance, marriage cert says father was Albert Pleasance. I know this is the same person for sure!! but can't connect them because of the name change..
I have found a Charlotte Rees to John T Pleasance in 1887. Help please...

Choccy

Choccy Report 16 Nov 2013 20:28


probably Daisy Pleasance NOT Placanses !

1901

RG number: RG13
Piece: 295
Folio: 136
Page: 13
Reg. District: Bethnal Green
Sub District: Bethnal Green East
Parish: Bethnal Green
Enum. District: 18
Ecclesiastical District: St Simons Zelotes
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 71, Bethnal Green Warley Street, Bethnal Green
County: London

REES, Mary Ann Head Widow F 59 1842 Silk Weaver
Bethnal Green, London
>>>>>>PLACANSES, Daisy Lodger Single F 5 1896
Bethnal Green, London
WANT, Anna Lodger Single F 28 1873 Cap Maker
Bethnal Green, London
WANT, Tress Lodger Single F 25 1876 Cap Maker
Bethnal Green, London


here they are in 1911

1911

RG14PN1378 RG78PN48 RD16 SD3 ED15 SN386
Reg. District: Shoreditch
Sub District: Shoreditch North East
Parish: Shoreditch
Enum. District: 15
Address: 19 Marlborough Road
County: London


PLEASANCE, Charlotte Wife Widow F 38 1873 Boot Bethnal Green
>>>>>PLEASANCE, Daisy F 15 1896 Bethnal Green
PLEASANCE, Charlotte Elizabeth F 20 1891 Shorditch
PLEASANCE, Albert M 5 1906 Shorditch

Choccy

Choccy Report 16 Nov 2013 20:49


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1901

RG number: RG13
Piece: 295
Folio: 151
Page: 43
Reg. District: Bethnal Green
Sub District: Bethnal Green East
Parish: Bethnal Green
Enum. District: 18
Ecclesiastical District: St Simons Zelotes
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 34, Bethnal Green Walter Street, Bethnal Green
County: London

>>>>>PLACACES, Charlotte Head Widow F 28 1873 Packer
Bethnal Green, London
PLACACES, Charlotte Daughter Single F 12 1889
Bethnal Green, London
PLACACES, Robert Son Single M 1 1900
Bethnal Green, London

Choccy

Choccy Report 16 Nov 2013 21:12


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1891

RG number: RG12
Piece: 258
Folio: 138
Page: 9
Reg. District: Bethnal Green
Sub District: Bethnal Green North
Parish: Bethnal Green
Enum. District: 11
Ecclesiastical District: St Paul
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 54, Gibraltar Walk, Bethnal Green
County: London

PLEASANCE, Thomas Head Married M 22 1869 Printers Warehouseman
Bethnal Green, London
PLEASANCE, Charlotte Wife Married F 21 1870
Bethnal Green, London
PLEASANCE, Charlotte Daughter F 3 1888
Bethnal Green, London
PLEASANCE, Elizabeth Daughter F 1 1890
Bethnal Green, London


Choccy

Choccy Report 16 Nov 2013 21:23


don't know if any of these postings are relevant, but they may be!

In 1901 looks like Thomas Pleasance was with a 'new' family and possibly Charlotte wasn't actually a widow. This Thomas Pleasance born the same year in Bethnal Green with the same occupation

1901

RG number: RG13
Piece: 282
Folio: 28
Page: 48
Reg. District: Bethnal Green
Sub District: Bethnal Green North
Parish: Bethnal Green
Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District: St Thomas
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 179, Ravenscroft Buildings, Bethnal Green
County: London

PLEASANCE, Thomas Head Married M 32 1869 Printer's Warehouseman
Bethnal Green, London
PLEASANCE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 28 1873
Wood Green, Middlesex
PLEASANCE, Reuben Son M 6 1895
Shoreditch, London
PLEASANCE, Jane Daughter F 7 1894
Shoreditch, London
PLEASANCE, Lille Daughter F 0 (7 MOS) 1901
Bethnal Green, London

Nicola

Nicola Report 16 Nov 2013 23:24

Thanks all for your help especially Choccy, finding Pleasance's in the same house as my Knapp Birth, confirms they are the same family..This is driving me mad..I thought there would be a clear date for the change of name, but know I have Pleasance's ancestor's prior to my Knapp Birth's in 1900!!

Nicola

Nicola Report 18 Nov 2013 21:39

So Charlotte Rees Married John Thomas Pleasance had 2 kids, Charlotte, 1890 and Daisy Emma, 1996. John Thomas then up and left and started new life with Elizabeth ??. Meanwhile Charlotte had twins Fred and William in 1900,Father William Wallace Knapp, and then had Albert Pleasance in 1906, Shoreditch. All this time claiming she was a widow??
I know guess work is rarely right when it comes to family history, so would love to know if anyone with more knowledge than me (thats all the kind people that have helped) thinks I maybe right in my thinking..

Nicola

Nicola Report 14 Dec 2013 23:14

Hi, could someone please look up William W Ruopp in the 1891 census in Pontypridd... think this could be my William Wallace Knapp.. looking to trace him back before 1891 any info helpful, birth place, occ etc Thanks