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CC..........the birth is clearly registered as Worthington.

Marriage ref of your mother

Marriages Dec 1947 (>99%)
Pacitti Rose Worthington Andover 6b 202
Worthington Alfred H Pacitti Andover 6b 202

Your aunt had two children David A 1945 & Ronald J 1949 who lived WILLESDEN London
Looks like Ronald has married twice & David once.

IF.......the birth posted is your Brother, i am wondering if he changed his name to Victor Worthington.

I found this marriage..........

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Victor M Worthington Name: Victor M Worthington
Spouse Name: Kathleen Drury
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1968
Registration District: Rochford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 2802

There are other Victor Worthington marriages but this is the only one with the middle initial "M"

Apart from the birth..........there are no other records regarding a Vittorio Pacitti.

If you think that Vittorio might be your Brother...a copy of his birth cert would give you his Mother's name.

CC - Rose's marriage was posted on Page 1.

There was a Vittorio Pacitti on the 2002 - 2006 electoral rolls in Edinburgh.

****EDIT****

I think this was probably the above mentioned person

PACITTI Vittorio (Victor) (Southside) Peacefully, after a short illness, in Marie Curie, on Saturday, August 29, 2009, Victor, son of the late Luigi and Teresa, beloved brother of Freddy and the...

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
about Alfred R Dudley Name: Alfred R Dudley
Year: 1950
County or Borough: Willesden
Ward or Division/Constituency: Willesden East
Street Address: 51 Denzil Road
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/0840

With Josephine



London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
about Alfred R Dudley Name: Alfred R Dudley
Year: 1952
County or Borough: Willesden
Ward or Division/Constituency: Willesden West
Street Address: 51 Denzil Road
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/0889


With Josephine and Margarita Pacitti


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
about Alfred R Dudley Name: Alfred R Dudley
Year: 1954
County or Borough: Willesden
Ward or Division/Constituency: Willesden West
Street Address: 51 Denzil Road
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/0864

With Josephine, Laura Manley and Margarita Pacitti.


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
about Margarita Pacitti Name: Margarita Pacitti
Year: 1953
County or Borough: Willesden
Ward or Division/Constituency: Church End
Street Address: 51 Denzil Road
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/0914

With Alfred and Josephine.

IF.....she was born in England.......

???

Births Mar 1919 (>99%)
Pacitti Margarita Coin Gateshead 10a 1420


No.........this Margarita married an Anderson in 1938.

Hi, I have very limited information from my file from the children society. It states that Victor (my brother) was called Victor Worthington. It does not ever refer to him as any other name. The address given in my file where my mother was residing at the time of my birth was 51 Denzil Road, Willesdean. I am overwhelmed by all your responses and so very grateful. As I said before I'm not terribly computer literate and really am now quite confused. Where do I go from here? The likelihood then is I have two cousin's? son's of Josephine and of course I am still searching for these people, the two boy's of Josephine and of course my brother victor.

As advised..........buy the Josephine Dudley death cert for info about the person who registered the death............and, of course, confirmation that it is the right woman

I had help once from a librarian who had retired. She applied for a marriage certificate which she thought was that of my mother's to an Arthur Worthington. She thought this would give her the name of my grandfather. It was a false lead and she received information from Anthony Pacitti to say that his brother was Vittorio pacitti who died in august 2009. This was not my brother as this man was the son of Luigi and Teresa not Rose.

my brother was definitely called Victor Worthington not Vittorio. Maybe the Victor that married Kathleen as above ? 51 Denzil Road was where my mother resided with her sister Josephine as this is in my adoption records.

51 Denzil Rd, Willesden London, Greater London NW10 2UY is the correct address.
If you Google you can see the house.

Have you still got a copy of your birth mothers marriage cert you say is wrong.
We need that info so we can find the correct one.

The only Pacitti/Worthington marriage i can see is the one to Alfred H Worthington.


There is not an appropriate birth registered for a Victor Pacitti or a Victor Worthington.

Unless of course he was not born in England or Wales.

Hi Peter... I think I am right in saying that the information in your file is only as good as the informant who was probably your mother. I think that your mother gave birth to Vittorio Pacitti in the September quarter of 1946. In the December quarter of 1947 she married Alfred H Worthington (you put Arthur in your post above) and he, Alfred, took on the baby who would have been about a year, as his own. It was not uncommon to change the childs surname to that of the new husband, Worthington. I also think that Vittorio was changed to Victor. Vittorio went well with Pacitti and the italin connection but not well with Worthington. By the time you were born this boy would have been nine years old which fits in with what you say in your opening post. I assume that your mother was married to Alfred at the time of your birth even though he was not your father.

When your file was put together your brother would have spent all but the first year of his life as Victor Worthington and to all intents and purposes this was who he was now. This also explains why there is no further trace of him as Vittoria Pacitti.

There were two girls born to the Worthington/Drury marriage.
One 1970 and one 1971.

Maryb.

Hi, a letter was sent to the Vittorio Pacitti but unfortunately a response came from Vittorio's brother saying that Vittorio died in 2009. He said Vittorio has been born on 4th feb 1941, son of lungi and Teresa so not the son of rose (my mother). I have no reason to believe that Victor's name was ever Vittorio but my files do say that indeed she met and married mr Worthington when Victor was 1 yrs old. It says that Victor resided at 43 review road, Dagenham, Essex whilst my mother was in a mother an baby home with me during her confinement (Amhurst Lodge, Ealing)

Peter....

You say that Vittorio's brother Anthony said that he was born in 1941.........the Vittorio posted earlier on here, was born in 1946........

England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
about Vittorio M Pacitti Name: Vittorio M Pacitti
Mother's Maiden Surname: Pacitti
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1946
Registration District: Hampstead
Inferred County: Devon, Cornwall, Scilly. Dorset, Somerset
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 1575

So it can't be the same Vittorio!

Very true. Thank you. How complex and confusing it all is :(. There is also mention in my documents of a Mary Pacitti (perhaps a grandmother) I can't quite make out the address but it looks like 32 Radfern Road, Houlesden? She was aged 65 on this document which was signed in sept 1956

Can I just add that I am so grateful for all the responses an information, thanks so much guy's it's certainly more than I expected :)

Mary born about 1891 then.

Josephine......(If it's the correct Josephine) died in Southend On Sea, Essex....

Might this be a possibilty........or just coincidence??

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Maria Antonia Pacitti Name: Maria Antonia Pacitti
Birth Date: 15 Jul 1891
Date of Registration: Jun 1980
Age at Death: 88
Registration District: Southend on Sea
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 2670