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Thank you so much Aileen.Ihave to go to my daughter,s tomorrow will be back at weekend.regards Mary.

This is the only marriage I can find for Jemima Mitchell Duncan ........it's a long way from home if it is the same one

1945 RINTOUL STEPHEN DUNCAN JEMIMA MITCHELL PITTENWEEM /FIFE

unfortunately I can't view the certificate as it is not pre 1935

Marriage for Jane Duncan

1923 WILSON WILLIAM DUNCAN JANE IRONGRAY /KIRKCUDBRIGHT

Jane's age is given as 21 so born about 1902 ....witness to the marriage was Jemima.

Death for Margaret Duncan

1949 DUNCAN MARGARET F 71 DUMFRIES /DUMFRIES

cert is witnessed by Jane Wilson (Daughter) I will now go try to find out more about Jane ( who may be Jemima).

1901 census for Margaret Duncan

Name: Maggie Duncan
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relationship: Serv (Servant)
Gender: Female
Where born: Caerlaverock, dumfriesshire
Registration number: 830
Registration District: Holywood
Civil Parish: Holywood
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Nether Gribton Farm
Occupation: Dairy Maid
ED: 3
Household Schedule Number: 33
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1901_431
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wilson 43
Janet Wilson 33
Margaret Wilson 10
William Wilson 6
John Wilson 4
Robert Wilson 1
Annie Wilson 13
Maggie Duncan 23
Andrew Heron 18
William Bell 18
Thomas Bell 14

1911 census has Agnes still living with her grandmother Agnes but also has a Jemima Duncan aged 4

Birth record

1906 DUNCAN JEMIMA MITCHELL F DUMFRIES /DUMFRIES

Jemima is Agnes sister......paternity of Jemima was heard in court and father given as James Mitchell (Farm Manager)

Birth for Margaret

1878 DUNCAN MARGARET F CAERLAVEROCK /DUMFRIES

Birth for Robert

1874 DUNCAN ROBERT M CAERLAVEROCK /DUMFRIES

Possible death for Agnes the grandmother

1916 DUNCAN AGNES F 64 HOLYWOOD /DUMFRIES

if this is correct she also had a son called Robert who signed the death cert. She does not appear to have been married.

Gives parents as William (Ploughman) and Jane Duncan ms McKenzie

1901 census....??

Name: Agnes Duncan
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relationship: Grandaughter (Granddaughter)
Gender: Female
Where born: Dumfries, dumfriesshire
Registration number: 830
Registration District: Holywood
Civil Parish: Holywood
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Gribton Cottage
ED: 3
Household Schedule Number: 37
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1901_431
Household Members:
Name Age
Agnes Duncan 46
Agnes Duncan 3

Hi again Potty. The Thomas birth in Hollywood is the right one.mary

Hi again Potty. The Thomas birth in Hollywood is the right one.mary

This looks like Margaret in 1901 - no sign of Agnes:
Margaret Duncan

Age:
45

Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1856

Relationship:
Housekeeper

Gender:
Female

Where born:
Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire

Registration number:
875

Registration District:
Lochrutton

Civil Parish:
Lochrutton

County:
Kirkcudbrightshire

Address:
Dovewell

Occupation:Housekeeper

Robert Landsborough 60
Margaret Duncan 45
William Duncan 10

HIi Potty.Isee on your 1861 census there is a margeret age 5.I think this might be agnes,s mother named on marriage record above.Regards Mary.

Thank you all.I finaly found marriage record for agnes and john kennan it was mis spelled.Married in LOCHMABEN.It has her mother namedMargeret.so I,ve been on trail of wrong agnes.regards .Mary.

Have traced Agnes senior back to 1861. She is a servant on all the census from 1871 onwards - no sign of any children:


1861 Scotland Census
about Agnes Duncan
Name: Agnes Duncan
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relationship: Ni;D (all the children have this relationship - you will need to look at the image to confirm but I would think it will be Neices's daughter - see Jane below)
Where born: Carlaverock, Dumfries
Registration District: Caerlaverock
Civil Parish: Caerlaverock
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Bankend

Jessie Neilson 72
Jane Duncan 39 - Neice - occupation: Jeldurs Wife
Agnes Duncan 9
Margt Duncan 5
Elizabeth Duncan 11


Have edited to add Jane's occupation - wonder if this should read Soldier's wife?

Possible for Agnes in 1901:
1901 Scotland Census
about Agnes Duncan
Name: Agnes Duncan
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relationship:Grandaughter (Granddaughter)

Where born:
Dumfries, dumfriesshire
Registration District: Holywood
Civil Parish: Holywood
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Gribton Cottage


Agnes Duncan 46
Agnes Duncan 3

Two births for Thomas Seaton Duncan:

1 1921 DUNCAN THOMAS SEATON M MIDDLEBIE (NORTHERN DISTRICT) /DUMFRIES 841/01 0012 No Image
2 1921 DUNCAN THOMAS SEATON M HOLYWOOD /DUMFRIES 830/00 0016 No Image

You will have to buy the cert to get the details.

There is this death (Kennan is very like Keenan):

1 1966 DUNCAN AGNES Not Permissible KENNAN F 68 TORTHORWALD /DUMFRIES 850/00 0003 No

Yes that,s likely Potty.my brother-in-law is descended from agnes.I noticed her name wasent on John Mowbray,s death record.Itried to access Agnes.s son,s records both birth and death . He was Thomas Seaton Duncan born 1921 in Hollywood Dumfries.Brother-in-law states he used to live with Agnes in Lochmaben Dumfries That would be 50or so yrs ago and that she died 1966,which has got me worried that above Agnes married to john Mowbray may be wrong.kind regards Mary.

Hardly likely to have lived with another man after John Mowbray's death - she would have been 83 when he died. Possibly she and John Mowbray split up earlier and she lived with John Keenan? Is you brother-in-law descended from John Keenan?