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Jacqueline
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10 Jun 2013 09:58 |
Hi, I have not been on here for help for some long time and I have become a bit rusty. I am looking for a marriage in 1838 between Richard William Hales and one of 4 ladies (Mary Nash, Amelia Asplin, Jane Helen Clement and Mary Barratt). I only have access to Findmypast and FreeBMD at present, so was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to help me with the correct partner of Richard William Hales. The marriage was in Sept qtr of 1838 in Stepney. My thanks in advance for anyone who can help it would be greatly appreciated. Kind regards Jackie :-)
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ErikaH
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10 Jun 2013 10:02 |
The name of his wife will be on the census following the marriage. FMP has all censuses
How did you work back to this man?
When and where was he born?
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Found him with wife in 1841........but won't deprive you of the pleasure of finding them yourself
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Maddie
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10 Jun 2013 10:05 |
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Richard William Hales Name: Richard William Hales Age: Full Age Spouse Name: Jane Helen Clement Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 1 Sep 1838 Parish: Limehouse St Anne Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: Richard Hales Spouse Father Name: Thomas Clement Register Type: Parish Register View original image up arrow Save This Record
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Maddie
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10 Jun 2013 10:10 |
1851 ????? daughter born in Limehouse
1851 England Census about Richard W Hales Name: Richard W Hales Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane E Hales Gender: M (Male) Where born: Harwich, Essex, England Civil Parish: New Windsor with Dedworth Ecclesiastical parish: Windsor St John County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address:
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Disability: View Image Registration District: Windsor Sub-registration District: Egham ED, institution, or vessel: 6e Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 161 Piece: 1695 Folio: 399 Page Number: 32 Household Members: Name Age Richard W Hales 38 Jane E Hales 33 May I Hales 11 Emma Gallin 24
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Jacqueline
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10 Jun 2013 10:27 |
Thankyou so much for your help Reggie and Maddie, it is appreciated and no doubt I will have a few more queries shortly :-). I have had family problems for some time and now trying to get back on track. Thankyou again Kind regards Jackie
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PricklyHolly
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10 Jun 2013 10:28 |
Richard appears with a different wife in the 1861 census......
1861 England Census about Richard Hales Name: Richard Hales Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Lydia Hales Mother's Name: Margaret Wood Gender: Male Where born: Harwich, Essex, England Civil Parish: Stepney County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration District: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration District: Mile End Old Town Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 77 Piece: 296 Folio: 72 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age Richard Hales 49 (Officer Exports Inland Revenue) Lydia Hales 51 Mary Hales 21
These people are actually living in the next property
Elizabeth Bliss 49 Mary A Shephard 12 Amelia Fullucks 15 Margaret Wood 69
Deaths Jun 1852 (>99%) Hales Jane Helen Windsor 2c 266
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PricklyHolly
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10 Jun 2013 10:30 |
Second marriage to Lydia........
London and Surrey, England, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1597-1921 about Richard William Hales Name: Richard William Hales (Widower) Event Date: 6 Dec 1853 Parish: Hanover Square, St George County: Middlesex Spouse's Name: Lydia Goodchild (Widow) Spouse's Parish: Hanover Square, St George Spouse's County: Middlesex Event Type: Allegation Reference Number: Ms 10091/230
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PricklyHolly
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10 Jun 2013 10:46 |
The 1871 Census is provided in association with:. All Results ..1871 England Census about Richard William Hales Name: Richard William Hales Age: 59 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born: Harwich, Essex, England Civil Parish: Camberwell St Giles Ecclesiastical parish: Blenheim Grove All Saints Town: Peckham County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration District: Camberwell Sub-registration District: Peckham ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household Schedule Number: 11 Piece: 730 Folio: 30 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Thomas George March 37 Frances March 37 Henry George March 8 Richard William Hales 59 (Widower) Retired Officer of Excise
I keep getting the error message so it's taking forever to post this!!
Deaths Sep 1867 (>99%) Hales Lydia 56 Mile End 1c 371
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PricklyHolly
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10 Jun 2013 10:52 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Richard William Hales Name: Richard William Hales Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1877 Age at Death: 65 Registration District: Ipswich Inferred County: Suffolk Volume: 4a Page: 368
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PricklyHolly
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10 Jun 2013 10:56 |
May I is actually Mary Jane........
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Mary Jane Hales Name: Mary Jane Hales Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 30 Jun 1839 Born: 3 June 1839 Abode: Commercial Road Father's Name: Richard William Hales (Clerk in Excise) Mother's Name: Jane Helen Hales Parish or Poor Law Union: Limehouse St Anne Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
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PricklyHolly
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10 Jun 2013 11:12 |
1841 England Census about Mary Hales Name: Mary Hales Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Gender: Female Civil Parish: Stepney Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View Image Registration District: Stepney Sub-registration District: Mile End Old Town Lower Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 713 Book: 4 Folio: 47 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Richd Hales 25 (Clk Excise) Jane Hales 20 Mary Hales 2
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Jacqueline
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10 Jun 2013 11:24 |
Hi Prickly Holly, great name!!!!. Thankyou for all your efforts I have quite a lot to peruse through now, I just wish they had stuck to one partner LOL!!!
I do appreciate all the kind replies and time that goes into giving this help. Thankyou Jackie
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Jacqueline
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10 Jun 2013 11:40 |
The information that you good people have given me is great and I am so pleased.
Now I have another small problem with regards to their son Richard James Hales, he married Sarah Ann Elizabeth LEWIS in March qtr of 1860 in Greenwich, I am now trying to find her mother. Her father is David LEWIS and I have tried all the lines I am able to access and I still cannot find this. I have been trying to work the two together to no avail. Can I ask you if you are able to give me a little more of your time on this please. Maybe it is because I keep having senior moments!!!!!!!! I may be missing the obvious.
Thankyou again Jackie
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PricklyHolly
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10 Jun 2013 11:53 |
Lydia in 1851.....
1851 England Census about Lydia Goodchild Name: Lydia Goodchild Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relation: Wife Gender: F (Female) Where born: Hampton, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: New Windsor Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address:
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Disability: View Image Registration District: Windsor Sub-registration District: Egham ED, institution, or vessel: 6d Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 73 Piece: 1695 Folio: 368 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Lydia Goodchild 40 (Widow) Fishmonger and Poulterer Charlotte White 42 (Sister) Frances Sheppard 13 (Visitor) Sarah Platter 17 (Servant)
1841 England Census about Lydia Goodchild Name: Lydia Goodchild Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Female Civil Parish: New Windsor Hundred: Ripplesmere County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View Image Registration District: Windsor Sub-registration District: Windsor Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 37 Book: 1 Folio: 8 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Lydia Goodchild 30 Above her is William Goodyear age 30.......Occ: Something Officer...(I can't read the first word!)
And below her is.........Charlotte White age 30 ....................................Elizabeth Bennett age 15 ....................................Frances Sheppard age 4
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PricklyHolly
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10 Jun 2013 11:58 |
When and where was Richard James born?
And when and where was Sarah Lewis born?
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PricklyHolly
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10 Jun 2013 12:04 |
Her Father is actually Daniel Lewis.......
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Richard James Hales Name: Richard James Hales (Barge? Builder) Age: Full Age Spouse Name: Sarah Ann Elizabeth Lewis Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 19 Feb 1860 Parish: Deptford St Paul Borough: Lewisham Father Name: Richard Willm Hales Spouse Father Name: Daniel Lewis Register Type: Parish Register Witnesses: Charles Martin? Lewis and Frances Lewis
I am going to have to come back to this later Jackie because i keep geting the dreaded error message!! :-|
Edit: The occupation of both Richard William Hales and Daniel Lewis is.........Ship (Something) Short for Shipwright??
Are you certain that this Richard is the son of your Richard William Hales??
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Jacqueline
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10 Jun 2013 17:01 |
Hi (Prickly Holly), Thankyou for this anyway and look forward to anything else you can dig up, :-) I do really appreciate it. Jackie
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PricklyHolly
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12 Jun 2013 12:35 |
Hi Jackie
Sorry for the delay in replying but i have only just been able to sign back on here since 2pm on Monday!
Have you actually found Richard James on any census record?
He does not appear in any census record with your Richard William and there does not appear to be a baptism record for him.
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Dea
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12 Jun 2013 14:07 |
Prickles - Have you noticed on that 1860 marriage cert Richard James seemes to have signed with the surname AYLES ??
He does write quite well but I suppose someone may have taught him to sign his name who couldn't spell?? but I wonder if was him who got it wrong or the vicar ?
I can't seem to trace him on a census.
Dea x
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12 Jun 2013 14:21 |
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Sarah A Ayles in household of Richd J Ayles, "England and Wales Census, 1881" Name: Sarah A Ayles Age (Original): 41 Gender: Female Birth Year: 1840 Birthplace: Poplar, Middlesex, England Relationship to Head of Household: Wife Marital Status: Married Occupation: Address: 2 Paxtons Alley Rotherhithe St Event Place: Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Disability: Record Type: Household GS Film number: 1341131 Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 575 / 19 Page Number: 32 Household Gender Age Birthplace Head Richd J Ayles M 42 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Wife Sarah A Ayles F 41 Poplar, Middlesex, England Son Richd A Ayles M 17 Rothe, Surrey, England Daughter Eliza Ayles F 14 Rothe, Surrey, England Son David Ayles M 11 Rothe, Surrey, England Son Charles Ayles M 12 Rothe, Surrey, England Daughter Ellen Ayles F 9 Rothe, Surrey, England Son Edward Ayles M 8 Rothe, Surrey, England
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