Find Ancestors

looking for wifes and parents names of fredrick john thomas born 1880 lived in newport sth wales father to kenneth donald and norman ,can someone please help :-(, lived on sutton rd newport ,kenneth and donald birth years may not be right ,Norman's birth is right ,he is my Dad, married to Ilma Audrey Williams now both deceased :-( kenneth Married to trixie ,i think this was his 2nd wife ,there was a shirley but i never new her ,have found out fredrick's wife could be Elizabeth Harding

Is this the right Frederick in the 1911 census? :-

1911 census transcription details for: 167 Caerleon Road Npt Mon

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN31991 RG78PN1840 RD587 SD2 ED32 SN304
Reg. District: Newport
Sub District: Newport
Parish: Newport
Enum. District: 32

Address: 167 Caerleon Road Npt Mon
County: Monmouthshire

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

THOMAS, Elizabeth Head Widow F 61 1850 London
THOMAS, Sarah Ann Daughter Single F 36 1875 Asbestos Packing Maker Monmouthshire Newport
THOMAS, Frederick John Son Single M 32 1879 Brewers Clerk Monmouthshire Newport<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
THOMAS, Jessie Daughter Single F 22 1889 Monmouthshire Newport
JONES, Alfred Boarder Single M 19 1892 Shop Assistant Monmouthshire Abergavenny

Kath. x

Do you know when the three sons were born?

Kath. x

???????????

Name: Frederick John Thomas
Event Type: Banns
Event Date: 26 May 1907
Event Place: Aberystruth, Monmouthshire, Wales
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Spouse's Name: Violet May Elizabeth Withers
GS Film number: 2414903
Digital Folder Number: 004394436

Name: Frederick John Thomas
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Jun 1907
Event Place: Aberystruth, Monmouthshire, Wales
Age: 27
Birth Year (Estimated): 1880
Spouse's Name: Violet Mary Elizabeth Withers
GS Film number: 2414903
Digital Folder Number: 004394436

?????????????

Name: Kenneth Thomas
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Male
Age: 6
Birthplace: Abersychan, Monmouthshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Pontypridd
Sub-District: Eglwysilan
Parish: Eglwysilan
County: Glamorganshire

That Kenneth aged 6 in 1911 was with parents Philip and Eliza

These are the marriages for the name Frederick J. Thomas between 1911 and 1921 in Newport:-


Name: THOMAS, Frederick J
Registration district: Newport (Monmouthshire)
County: Monmouthshire
Year of registration: 1913
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Beavan
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 498

Name: BEAVAN, Mary
Registration district: Newport (Monmouthshire)
County: Monmouthshire
Year of registration: 1913
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Thomas
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 498

or:-

Name: THOMAS, Frederick J
Registration district: Newport (Monmouthshire)
County: Monmouthshire
Year of registration: 1919
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Thomas
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 536

Name: THOMAS, Matilda
Registration district: Newport (Monmouthshire)
County: Monmouthshire
Year of registration: 1919
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Thomas
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 536

Kath. x

1911

married 3 years

Fred Thomas 30
Violet Thomas 21
William Thomas 2


poster doesn't mention a son William so maybe wrong couple

Find the marriage on..................

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

WHEN were the sons born?

You say Frederick 'lived' in Newport.............when was that.........and where was he born?

Is THIS his birth?

Births Sep 1880 (>99%)
THOMAS Frederick John Cardiff 11a 265

Angela has Kenneth born in Newport in 1914 in her tree on here.

Added:
And Donald 1916.

And Norman, 1915.

Thanks, Pat.............I do wish people would give all info when asking for help. There should be no need for such checking..............

Births Dec 1916 (>99%)
Thomas Donald Edwards Newport M 11a 523

BUT..............no Kenneth in 1914

No point in looking further until feedback is added..............

I do not think the parents cross-check.
Sorry, internet very slow.

I can't find any of these boys names all with the same mother's maiden name.

We definitely need more information from Angela.

Kath. x

Poster said Frederick was father to the boys.
Maybe they had different mothers.

PM received.

Have advised Angela to respond on here...........but until she does

he lived in sutton rd newport ,all i know it that he died when i was about 5 ,which would be around 1955. kenneth was maried to trixie and lived in bridgend ,donald married lillian lived in llangwm moved to south africa and died there. daughter susan [widowed] and mother came back to newport ...thats all i have

Guessing........again! But that's all we can do............

Marriages Mar 1945 (>99%)

EVANS Lilian M Thomas Newport 11a 450
Thomas Donald L Evans Newport 11a 450

Births Jun 1911 (>99%)
Thomas Donald L Newport M. 11a 228