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MarieCeleste
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9 Feb 2013 18:16 |
This death matches the birthdate on the draft cards:
Social Security Death Index
Name: David Jones SSN: 447-18-4185 Last Residence: 74003 Bartlesville, Washington, Oklahoma, United States of America Born: 29 Jan 1888 Died: May 1976 State (Year) SSN issued: Oklahoma (Before 1951)
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Frances
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9 Feb 2013 18:30 |
No! I can't believe this! My very first visit to the U.S. was to ............ Bartlesville Ok. in 1992. May I ask how you found this and can I find out for example who reported the death-ie who was the next of kin? Can I apply for a death certificate? I cannot tell you how grateful I am for your help. I am feeding all this information to my parents- both in their mid 80's and my Aunt who is nearly 90. They are enthralled by this.
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MarieCeleste
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9 Feb 2013 18:40 |
Frances, I found that on Ancestry worldwide but here's a link to the same record on FamilySearch: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J12M-Y6Y
I'm afraid I personally don't know how to get the death certificate but I'm sure someone who has more knowledge of US records will be along ....
May I ask, is it a complete coincidence that's where you went in 1992, or was there a family connection?
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Frances
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9 Feb 2013 18:58 |
No it is an absolute complete coincidence and a major one because Bartlesville is not on the tourist trail! A good friend of mine who has daughters the same age as mine, has a husband who worked in London for Phillips Petroleum. Bartlesville is the headquarters of Phillips and the family was moved out there for two years. We had never been to the States and we were invited out for Christmas. I am currently trying to see how close to the postcode shown on the information you have found,is to where we stayed. We are wondering why he would have moved there after becoming disabled. Both my husband and myself thought that there may have been a disability training centre but we are probably adding 2+2 and making 5. Because many years elapsed between the disability registration and his death he is just as likely to have moved to be near family
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MarieCeleste
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9 Feb 2013 19:27 |
Oh Frances, I'm afraid that death looks like it was another coincidence. I've found this: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Jones&GSfn=David&GSby=1888&GSbyrel=in&GSdy=1976&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=63379913&df=all&
I suppose with such a common name it would figure that someone else had the same birthdate.
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Frances
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9 Feb 2013 21:29 |
Arising out of the disability claim I am now on the trail of Peter Hodiak named in it and I think I have now traced the family. Trying to place a call to the States ls we speak!
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Frances
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9 Feb 2013 21:29 |
Arising out of the disability claim I am now on the trail of Peter Hodiak named in it and I think I have now traced the family. Trying to place a call to the States ls we speak!
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mgnv
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10 Feb 2013 01:07 |
name: David Jones titles & terms: event: Census event year: 1940 event place: Riverdale, Election District 19, Prince George's, Maryland, United States gender: Male age: 52 marital status: Married race (original): race (standardized): White relationship to head of household (original): relationship to head of household (standardized): Father-in-law birthplace: Wales estimated birth year: 1888 residence in 1935: District Of Columbia enumeration district number: 17-72 family number: 27 sheet number and letter: 2A line number: 31 nara publication number: T627 nara roll number: 1558 digital folder number: 005461120 image number: 00524 Household Gender Age Birthplace head Peter Hodiak M 30 Michigan [Chemist] wife Minnie Hodiak F 33 England [Telephone Operator] daughter Marie Hodiak F 2 Maryland son Paul Hodiak M 0 Maryland father-in-law David Jones M 52 Wales [Carpenter] mother-in-law Lucy Jones F 46 Wales Citing this Record "United States Census, 1940," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K7FK-K13 : accessed 10 Feb 2013), David Jones in household of Peter Hodiak, Riverdale, Election District 19, Prince George's, Maryland, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 17-72, sheet 2A, family 27, NARA digital publication T627, roll 1558.
Click on link, then view image in left column. [addy=500 Ashland Ave, so they move by 1942 (WW2 draft card) Peter & Minnie were in Mt Rainier WA in 1935 Mt Rainier serves as a local weather forecaster in Seattle - if you can see Mt Rainier, it's going to rain, and if you can't see Mt Rainier, it's already raining]
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MarieCeleste
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10 Feb 2013 11:03 |
mgnv - what a star!
I've been boggle eyed trying to find David Jones, never thought of Hodiak.
Frances, do let us know outcome.
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Frances
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10 Feb 2013 15:25 |
FOUND THEM!!! I am so so grateful to you all. Each little bit of information took me forward to thenext. The one breakthrough was the disability claim and the name of Peter Hodiak. We were stuck at this stage -apart form the little jaunt to Bartlesville and I didn't know where to go from there. Hodiak was quite easy to follow and soon we saw that David Thomas Jones was his father-in law. We were also able to google Hodiak and I have just spoken to my 2nd cousin in Woodbine Maryland! He had no idea of my existence but knew his grandfather was Welsh. He was able to tell me the one thing I still wanted to know which is that he is buried at Fort Lincoln in Washington. I am quite humbled that so many of you spent so much time trying to help me - a stranger. I thank you so much. If I can ever help you in return I hope I will be the first on your calling list.
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MarieCeleste
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10 Feb 2013 16:26 |
Oh Frances, that's fantastic - I'm so pleased for you.
This is exactly why we do what we do.
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mgnv
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10 Feb 2013 16:31 |
MC - I saw your WW2 draft card, so I looked for David Jones in MD - 249 hits. I added pob=Wales, b 1886-1891 and got just the one hit, and saw it was Peter's h/h, and he was the WW2 addy knower, so I'd got our Dai.
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MarieCeleste
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10 Feb 2013 16:45 |
Just to tidy up some loose ends, I've found the elusive Arthur going to US with his mum and sister:
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Arthur L Jones Arrival Date: 13 Oct 1910 Birth Date: abt 1910 Age: 6 Months Gender: Male Ethnicity/ Nationality: Welsh Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Lusitania
Travelling with mum Louisa (25), Minnie (4) - all three born Llanarthney, Wales. Travelling to father David T Jones at 8 Acre Avenue, Scranton PA.
With them was a cousin Spencer C Jones (21) a carpenter, born Carmarthen.
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MarieCeleste
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10 Feb 2013 16:50 |
Family in 1920:
1920 United States Federal Census
Name: David F Jones (It is David T) Age: 32 Birth Year: abt 1888 Birthplace: Wales Home in 1920: Washington, Washington, District of Columbia Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1910 (same for all of them) Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Louisa Jones Father's Birthplace: Wales Mother's Birthplace: Wales Home Owned: Rent Able to Read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors:
Household Members: Name Age David F Jones 32 Carpenter Louisa Jones 32 Minnie Jones 14 Arthur L Jones 9
Street Address: 10091/2 4 ½ Street SW
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MarieCeleste
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10 Feb 2013 17:00 |
I think Arthur may have been too young to have had a son in WW2 so was it actually Arthur who turned up at your gran's house?
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alviegal
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10 Feb 2013 18:09 |
So happy for you Frances! That was a real stroke of luck and I must admit, I thought your chances of going further were very slim indeed.
Just shows you, never give up hope. I really hope your connection to your new found family proves to be very happy and fruitful.
Best wishes Liz x
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Renes
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10 Feb 2013 18:09 |
Congratulation to all in this search .....
Most interesting read I have had for a while ....
Great researching ....
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alviegal
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10 Feb 2013 18:18 |
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U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 about Arthur L Jones Name: Arthur L Jones Birth Year: 1910 Race: White, citizen (White) Enlistment Date: 3 Dec 1943 Enlistment State: Maryland Enlistment City: Baltimore Branch: No branch assignment Branch Code: No branch assignment Grade: Private Grade Code: Private Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men) Source: Civil Life Education: 3 years of high school Civil Occupation: Carpenters Marital Status: Married Height: 00 Weight: 000
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alviegal
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10 Feb 2013 18:24 |
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U.S. Veterans Gravesites, ca.1775-2006 about Arthur Lewis Jones Name: Arthur Lewis Jones Service Info.: PFC HDQ BTRY 416 F A GP FA U S A Birth Date: 7 Apr 1910 Death Date: 11 Aug 1957 Interment Date: 14 Aug 1957 Cemetery: Arlington National Cemetery Cemetery Address: C/O Director Arlington, VA 22211 Buried At: Section 33 Site 8194
Social Security Death Index about Arthur Jones Name: Arthur Jones SSN: 214-03-9498 Born: 7 Apr 1910 Died: Aug 1957 State (Year) SSN issued: Maryland (Before 1951)
U.S. National Cemetery Interment Control Forms, 1928-1962 about Arthur Lewis Jones Name: Arthur Lewis Jones Death Date: 11 Aug 1957 Cemetery: Arlington National Cemetery Burial Location: Arlington, Virginia
Lena Frances Jones of 5705 36 Ave. West Hyattsville , Md. was his widow.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=JO&GSfn=a&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=48&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GSsr=1961&GRid=49239509&df=all&
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alviegal
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10 Feb 2013 18:31 |
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Social Security Death Index about L. Frances F. Jones Name: L. Frances F. Jones SSN: 578-40-8304 Last Residence: 20737 Riverdale, Prince Georges, Maryland, United States of America Born: 3 Feb 1906 Died: 18 May 1994 State (Year) SSN issued: District of Columbia (Before 1951)
U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1 about L Frances Jones Name: L Frances Jones Birth Date: 3 Feb 1906 Address: 5009 Somerset Rd, Riverdale, MD, 20737-1137 (1993) [5902 31st Ave Apt 416, Hyattsville, MD, 20782-2908]
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