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Morning,

The 1901 post I put up about Percy Baker Jackson, on the actual census form it does read Ultimus but is transcribed as William.

The other thing is that Ultimus could be an old spelling of William anyway as I have had a Guilimus in a tree somewhere which was the old spelling of Willliam.

Ultimus is the Latin for "last" and Gulielmus the Latin for William.

Marriages Jun 1923 (>99%)
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Farrell Annie W M Jackson Derby 7b 1251
Jackson Laurence G Farrell Derby 7b 1251

(not sure if above fits)

Although, 1911 for Ultimus, says 12 children born, 11 living, 1 died.

Chris :)

Thanks everyone. I have now printed out this info so do I leave this thread or delete it & start a new one later ? Ultimus meaning Last in Latin makes sense as mother was then 44 so she probably thought That's it ! No more !

Best to leave it Kathleen, then any further queries relating, we can refer back.

On left side, under heading 'Tools', you will find it in 'My Threads'.

(you certainly have a lot of names there to work with, lol)

Chris :)

Why is it I cannot find a Kinvig family in the 1901 Isle of Man census ? I already have the info but I want to check one person & I can get nothing on GR. Ann 44, Herbert 20, John 13 & the person I want to check - a 4 year old boy John Clugstone who was 'adopted' by Ann Kinvig. I would like to find out if it said 'adopted' & then find him on the 1911 census. I have this family on my CD rom but why can I not get it on this site ? Thanks

GR isn't the best place to do research. They don't have any records of their own.......all are taken from other sources

The people who help on these boards use other sites.

This is from Ancestry..............

1901 Isle of Man Census
Name: Ann Kenvig
[Ann Kinvig]
Age in 1901: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Gender: Female
Where born: Rushen, Isle of Man, Isle of Man
Civil parish: Malew
Ecclesiastical parish: Malew
Town: Castletown
County/Island: Isle of Man
Country: Isle of Man
Registration district: Isle of Man
Sub-registration district: Isle of Man
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Household schedule number: 48
Piece: 5308
Folio: 115
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Kenvig 44
Herbert Kenvig 20
William Kenvig 23
Bessie Kenvig 15
John Kenvig 13
John Clugston 4 (Adopted son) born MALEW

No sign of John Clugston in 1911

1911 England Census
Name: John Kinvig
Age in 1911: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Birth Place: Castletown, Isle of Man
Civil parish: Aldershot
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: 1St Cavalry Brigade, 2Nd Dragoon Guards, Wellington Lines, Aldershot
Marital Status: Single
Military unit: 2nd Dragoon Guards Queen'S Bays
Registration district: Farnham
Registration District Number: 34
Sub-registration district: Aldershot
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Piece: 3122

1911 Isle of Man Census about Herbert Kinvig
Name: Herbert Kinvig
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Rwshen, Isle of Man
Civil parish: Conchan
Country: Isle of Man
Street Address: 11 Falcon St Douglas Isle of Man
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 4
Occupation: Labourer (maltstar)
Registration district: Isle of Man
Registration District Number: 635
Sub-registration district: Conchan
ED, institution, or vessel: 18/24
Household schedule number: 145
Piece: 34677
Household Members:
Name Age
Herbert Kinvig 30
Eleanor Margh Kinvig 27
John Robt Kelly 73 Father in Law
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KINVIG, HERBERT

Rank: Private
Service No: 53653
Date of Death: 14/06/1918
Age: 38
Regiment/Service: Lancashire Fusiliers, 2nd Bn.
Grave Reference
I. G. 13.
Cemetery
MONT-BERNANCHON BRITISH CEMETERY, GONNEHEM
Additional Information:
Son of John and Anne Kinvig, of Castletown, Isle of Man; husband of Mrs. E. M. Kinvig, of 4540 Oakland Avenue, St. Louis, Missouri, U.S.A.

Thanks. I wonder if John Herbert Clugston(e) took the name Kinvig from his adopted family for the 1911 census. I thought GR would be a good site but obviously Ancestry sounds more informative.