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Christina
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3 Dec 2012 18:42 |
Hi, I am looking for any info on Beatrice May Humphries, born 1904 Wells Somerset. Her parents may have been John and Susan, and I believe she had a brother John/Jack. So far I cannot find anything about her. Thanks,Chris.
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MarieCeleste
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3 Dec 2012 18:43 |
Hello Chris, how did you connect to her?
What info do you have so we don't duplicate it?
Have you searched FreeBMD for records? http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Have you used the Search Trees facility here to see if anyone else has her?
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MarieCeleste
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3 Dec 2012 18:47 |
Possible 1911:
HUMPHRIES, John Husband Married M 48 1863 Stone Mason Labourer Wincanton Somt HUMPHRIES, Susan Wife Married19 years F 39 1872 Wincanton Somt HUMPHRIES, Eveline Gladys Daughter F 17 1894 Shoe Machinist Street Somt HUMPHRIES, Robert John Son M 14 1897 School Street Somt HUMPHRIES, Beatress May Daughter F 7 1904 Street Somt HUMPHRIES, Ivy Dorreen Daughter F 2 1909 Street Somt HUMPHRIES, Christina Winnefred Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Street Somt
RG number: RG14 Piece: 14544 Reference: RG14PN14544 RG78PN881 RD313 SD2 ED11 SN139 Registration District: Wells Sub District: Glastonbury Enumeration District: 11
Street Address: 7 Brights Terrace Street County: Somersetshire
5 children born, all still alive.
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Christina
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3 Dec 2012 19:39 |
Hi, Thanks for your quick reply. She was an old friends mother and he has been trying to find out about her family. I note from your reply she is on the census as Beatress not Beatrice, so that's why I could not find her. So far yours is the only info he has so now at least we have a starting point. It's the right family as John was a stone mason. Thanks, Chris
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MarieCeleste
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3 Dec 2012 21:28 |
A copy of her birth certificate will give her mother's maiden name so you can then work back:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Jun 1904 Humphries Beatrice May Wells 5c 412
Her name was written as Beatress on the original 1911 image but her dad (who filled the form in) had put his own name as Jhon so spelling may not have been his strongest point!
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MarieCeleste
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3 Dec 2012 21:33 |
1901 shows a nephew George Rumble - might be useful:
HUMPHRIES, John Head Married M 38 1863 Mason Wincanton, Somersetshire HUMPHRIES, Susen Wife Married F 29 1872 Machinist (Shoe) Wincanton, Somersetshire HUMPHRIES, Eveline G Daughter Single F 7 1894 Street, Somersetshire HUMPHRIES, Robert J Son Single M 4 1897 Street, Somersetshire RUMBLE, George Nephew Single M 17 1884 Shoemaker (Factory Hand) Wincanton, Somersetshire
Piece: 2319 Folio: 50 Page: 1 Registration District: Wells Civil Parish: Street
Address: Portway, Street County: Somersetshire
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MarieCeleste
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3 Dec 2012 21:40 |
Given the nephew's name in 1901, I wonder if this marriage is a possible:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1892 Chilcott Emma Wincanton 5c 729 Evans William Wincanton 5c 729 HUMPHRIES John Wincanton 5c 729 << Rumbold Susan Wincanton 5c 729 ??
But, Beatrice May's birth cert would be the best bet.
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Christina
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3 Dec 2012 21:40 |
Hi, I found a marriage of a John Humphries to a Susan Rumbold Sept 1/4 1892 Wincanton. I tried to look her up but not getting too far. I only can rely on free census. I contacted my friend and the family still lived at the same address in 1960s as was on 1911 census! I noticed his spelling was bad on the other names! I will try to sort out John's side 1st I think. Thanks again, Chris.
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MarieCeleste
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3 Dec 2012 21:46 |
Looks like we found the same marriage at the same time Christina!
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3 Dec 2012 22:27 |
1881 - Bayford Hill, Somerset
Elizabeth Humphries 45 - widow - Wincanton Somerset son -John Humphries 16 - labourer - Wincanton Smerset dau - Elizabeth Humphries 13 dau - Mary Humphries 12
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Christina
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3 Dec 2012 22:36 |
Hi Mike, Thanks for that. I love the way people are prepared to look stuff up for others. It really helps. Chris
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MarieCeleste
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4 Dec 2012 19:14 |
I wonder if Susan really was a Rumble and the Rumbold on the marriage was a typo or mis-heard?
1881:
RUMBLE, Robert Head Married M 40 1841 Ag Lab Sturminster Marshall, Dorset RUMBLE, Emma Wife Married F 42 1839 Wincanton, Somerset RUMBLE, Mary Daughter Single F 14 1867 General Servant Wincanton, Somerset RUMBLE, James Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Wincanton, Somerset RUMBLE, Susan Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Wincanton, Somerset RUMBLE, Robert Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Wincanton, Somerset
Piece: 2397 Folio: 90 Page: 4 Registration District: Wincanton Civil Parish: Wincanton
Address: Whitehall, Wincanton County: Somersetshire _____________________________________________________________
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Sep 1873 Rumble Susan Wincanton 5c 518
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MarieCeleste
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4 Dec 2012 19:23 |
This 1891 seems to tie in:
RUMBLE, Emma Wife Married F 53 1838 Wincanton, Somersetshire RUMBLE, George Grandson M 6 1885 Scholar Wincanton, Somersetshire
Piece: 1903 Folio: 94 Page: 17 Registration District: Wincanton Civil Parish: Wincanton
Address: 20, Whitehall, Wincanton County: Somersetshire
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MarieCeleste
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4 Dec 2012 19:26 |
1871 for Susan's family:
RUMBLE, Robert Head M 30 1841 Dorset, Sturminster. Ag Lab. RUMBLE, Emma Wife F 32 1839 Somerset RUMBLE, Eliza Daughter F 7 1864 Somerset RUMBLE, Fanny Daughter F 5 1866 Somerset RUMBLE, Mary Jane Daughter F 3 1868 Somerset
Piece: 2426 Folio: 118 Page: 3 Registration District: Wincanton Civil Parish: Wincanton
Address: Ireson Lane, Wincanton County: Somersetshire
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4 Dec 2012 19:30 |
This looks like George in 1891 Name: George Rumble Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Wincanton, Somerset, England Civil parish: Wincanton Ecclesiastical parish: Wincanton Town: Wincanton County/Island: Somerset Country: England
Name: John Warren [John Rumble] Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Warren [Emma Warren] Gender: Male Where born: Wincanton, Somerset, England Civil parish: Wincanton Ecclesiastical parish: Wincanton Town: Wincanton County/Island: Somerset
Name: Jane Warren [Jane Rumble] Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Warren Gender: Female Where born: Exeter, Devon, England Civil parish: Wincanton
Name: Walter Coombs Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Wincanton, Somerset, England
Name: Emma Warren [Emma Rumble] Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Warren Gender: Female Where born: Wincanton, Somerset, England Civil parish: Wincanton
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MarieCeleste
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4 Dec 2012 19:33 |
Normally we expect a marriage to be near the bride's birthplace but I wouldn't dismiss this for Susan's parents (would need further checking)
Dorset, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
Name: Robert Rumble - bachelor Bann Date: 16, 23 & 30 Aug 1863 Parish: Blandford Forum Spouse's Name: Emma Baily - spinster
Both resident in the parish.
This is a banns record, can't locate an actual marriage.
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MarieCeleste
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4 Dec 2012 19:41 |
In the Western Gazette of 1 October 1875 a Robert Rumble of Wincanton was fined 5s (inc costs) for not sending his children to school. (He was fined 2s 6d for the same thing in 1880)
Western Gazette, 2 July 1880 - Emma Rumble, wife of Robert of Wincanton, was fined 5s 6d for beating Wm Ashworth (11) with a stick. She admitted the offence but claimed he had called her names and was very saucy.
The Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette dated 4 August 1887 carried a report about the Somerset Industrial School for Boys. In it there is mention of a Robert Rumble who won a prize for "careful work throughout the year". (Possibly the son of Robert & Emma born 1876?)
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Christina
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4 Dec 2012 19:51 |
Just spoken to Beatrices son, who is now in his 70's and he seems to recall the name Rumble from his youth! As you say it may have been misheard. Am printing all this so will have to sort it out. Thanks there's a lot of info here.
On 1881 census there's John aged 16 who I think was Beatrice's Father, and his mother Elizabeth aged 45 and a widow. I found a marriage of a John Humphries to an Elizabeth White in 1863 Wincanton. These must be Beatrices Grandparents I think.
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Christina
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4 Dec 2012 19:57 |
I love the bit from the Western Gazette!
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MarieCeleste
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4 Dec 2012 20:02 |
There only seems to be one Susan Rumble in Somerset according to the 1881 census so am hoping this next item is about her:
The Western Gazette 20 July 1883 reported on a Flower & Livestock show promoted by the Wincanton Church Sunday school for its scholars. A Susan Rumble won a commendation in the best doe rabbit category.
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