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hello, we are trying to find out the details of my grandfathers first wife, his name was Edward Charles phelps, born in Gloucester in 1916. he married my grandmother, Audrey frances mary stock in 1947, so we know the previous wedding would have taken place before this date. as we understand it his first wife died, any help would be greatly appreciated, thankyou.

The only possible I can see in Gloucestershire:

Marriages Mar 1942
Phelps Edward C Watts F.of Dean 6a 863
Watts Olive E M Phelps F.of Dean 6a 863

Possible?

Marriages Mar 1942

Phelps Edward C Watts F.of Dean 6a 863
Watts Olive E M Phelps F.of Dean 6a 863


death

Deaths Sep 1947

Phelps Olive E M 24 F.of Dean 7b 301

Roy

Deaths Sep 1947 (>99%)
Phelps Olive E M 24 F.of Dean 7b 301

Jan

Hi Lucie

This is the registration of his birth

Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
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Phelps Edward C Wills Gloucester 6a 509

Now we have the possible marriages from Free BMD

Marriages Sep 1933 (>99%)
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Phelps Edward C Laugher Birmingham 6d 467

Marriages Sep 1939 (>99%)
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Phelps Edward C Allen Poole 5a 1139

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Marriages Mar 1942 (>99%)
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Phelps Edward C Watts F.of Dean 6a 863

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Marriages Dec 1947 (>99%)
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Phelps Edward C Stock Cheltenham 7b 658

What needs to be done now is to check for the deaths of the brides for these marriages.

Back in a bit unless someone beats me to it.

J

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Olive E M Watts
Name: Olive E M Watts
Spouse Surname: Phelps
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1942
Registration district: Forest of Dean
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 863


Her death

Deaths Sep 1947 (>99%)
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Phelps Olive E M 24 F.of Dean 7b 301


Andy

And I see the Dream Team have beaten me to it. :-P :-P :-D

so born in Gloucster

Name: Edward C Phelps
Mother's Maiden Surname: Wills
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1916
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 509

and married in Cheltenham reg district
Name: Edward C Phelps
Spouse Surname: Stock
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1947
Registration district: Cheltenham
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 7b
Page Number: 658
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

Births Jun 1923 -

Watts Olive E M -Selwyn- Westbury S. 6a 499

Parents marriage for Olive?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1902 (>99%)
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Selwyn Nora Emily Westbury S. 6a 596
Watts Milsen Westbury s. 6a 596
Watts Milson Westbury s. 6a 596


1911 census

1911 England Census
about Milson Watts
Name: Milson Watts
Age in 1911: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: East Dean, Gloucestershire
Civil parish: Littledean
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Pleasant Hill, Little Dean, Glos
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coal Miner and Hewer
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Registration District Number: 323
Sub-registration district: East Dean
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 11
Piece: 15241
Household Members: Name Age
Milson Watts 40
Nora Emily Watts 29
Sidney Allen Watts 6
Francis Watts 5





Andy

everyone is being so kind in replying, thankyou. we have come to these names too, but the ages of the brides don't seem to correspond ( they all seem too old) although, I suppose he could have had an older woman. I know we are being horribly thick, but what do we do with the reference numbers attached to the relevant documents

The reference numbers are for ordering the certificate

Olive was 24 when she died .
What do you mean by too old ?

The reference numbers are necessary should you wish to get any of the certs. These can be ordered online and cost £9.25.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Olive was 7 years younger than him wasn't she? Born 1923.

Jan

Lucie, Age on the death index is 24 years in 1947 birth is 1923 so she was a younger woman not older?

Roy

aha! I don't know how we came to that conclusion! told you we were being thick! so, she died in 1947? everyone has been so kind thankyou

me again..... when we put her details into the death register it shows no results what are we doing wrong?

What do you mean by death register Lucie? What site are you using?
To see any more detail you would need the cert.
Jan

Are you using freebmd ?

That's where it was found.

LINK
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Stupid question but are you putting Phelps Olive ?

Which death register do you mean, and are you using maiden or married name?