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Barry
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4 Nov 2012 15:27 |
I am trying to find the parents of my GGgrandfather William Pearson born St Lukes (Islington/Shoreditch?) but do not know any exact dates. I understand he was baptised at St Leonards Shoreditch when aged one and married a Maria Castleman. I have been told of two options: 1841 Census-Wiliam Pearson married to Isabella both age 30, with William age 3 St Georges the Martyr , Southwark. or William Pearson baptised St Sepulchre London (this William parents i.e. William 1838 grandparents were William and Mary. One may be right or both wrong-would appreciate it if anyone could help. Barry
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Barry
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4 Nov 2012 15:29 |
St Sepulchre baptism date was 18 Aug 1818. Barry
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4 Nov 2012 15:31 |
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groom's name: William Pearson groom's birth date: groom's birthplace: groom's age: bride's name: Maria Castleman bride's birth date: bride's birthplace: bride's age: marriage date: 1859 marriage place: Chingford, Essex, England groom's father's name: William Pearson groom's mother's name: bride's father's name: William Castleman bride's mother's name: groom's race: groom's marital status: groom's previous wife's name: bride's race: bride's marital status: bride's previous husband's name: indexing project (batch) number: M16394-2 system origin: England-VR source film number: 1564254 reference number: 2:3DLD1MJ
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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4 Nov 2012 15:33 |
Is this him for ref please?
1891 England Census about William Pearson Name: William Pearson Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Maria Pearson Gender: Male Where born: London City, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Brixton ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 411 Folio: 59 Page Number: 48 Household Members: Name Age William Pearson 53 Maria Pearson 52 Walter Pearson 23 Louisa Pearson 22 George Pearson 19 Eleanor Pearson 17 Ernest Pearson 15 Alfred T Pearson 12 Charles L Pearson 10 Eliza Pearson 8
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4 Nov 2012 15:38 |
name: William Pearson event: Census event date: 1871 gender: Male age: 33 relationship to head of household: Self birthplace: St Luke's, Middlesex record type: Household registration district: Shoreditch sub-district: Haggerstone, West event parish: St Leonard Shoreditch county: London, Middlesex Household Gender Age Birthplace self William Pearson M 33 St Luke's, Middlesex wife Maria Pearson F 33 Islington, Middlesex daughter Annie Pearson F 10 Sydenham, Surrey son William Pearson M 8 Horden, Middlesex son Arthur Pearson M 6 Horden, Middlesex son Walter Pearson M 3 Horden, Middlesex daughter Louisa Pearson F 2 Horden, Middlesex
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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4 Nov 2012 15:42 |
Well Chingford Essex is a long way from where they were born!!
There are a couple of William Pearson's marrying Maria's on the London marriages so are you sure you have the right one?
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Chris Ho :)
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4 Nov 2012 15:47 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1287584
(could be connected)
Chris :)
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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4 Nov 2012 15:48 |
Who was your grandfather and what year was he born please as your first post is not clear.
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4 Nov 2012 15:52 |
Births Jun 1838 (>99%) PEARSON William Whitechapel 2 471
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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4 Nov 2012 16:22 |
I think you either need one of the childrens birth certs or his marriage cert to be sure you have the right one.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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4 Nov 2012 16:26 |
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about William Pearson ??????????????
Name: William Pearson Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 1 Oct 1836 Father's Name: William Pearson BASKET MAKER************ Mother's name: Hannah Pearson Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard**************** Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Registers Born 10 June 1836********************
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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4 Nov 2012 16:36 |
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about William Pearson Name: William Pearson Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 18 Aug 1818 Father's Name: William Pearson Mother's name: Mary Pearson Parish or Poor Law Union: Holborn St Sepulchre Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers
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Barry
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6 Nov 2012 12:38 |
Thanks All, Mel- The 1871 and 1891 are correct as Arthur was my Ggrandfather. I don't know how Chingford fits in (don't seem to be any other options), In 1861 they were living in Sydenham as their first child Annie was born there cSept 1860 , but I have got the birth cert. for William Henry Pearson 20/11/1862 which seems to fit as living at Hoxton Old Town and mother show as Maria Pearson formely Castleman.
What I am really interested in at the moment is finding the parents of William Pearson born St Lukes 1838 (living in Brixton Lambeth 1911)-father is also William-mother? Regards Barry.
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Barry
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7 Dec 2012 10:22 |
I am still unable to prove for sure who was William 1838 parents other than his father was also William (from the marriage details kindly provided above). I now know he was baptiied at St Leonards, Shoreditch age one .Any further info. would be greatly appreciated. Barry
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ErikaH
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7 Dec 2012 10:32 |
If you obtain the 1859 marriage cert, you'll learn what the father's occupation was........might help with determining which is the correct family
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ErikaH
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7 Dec 2012 10:36 |
1861 England Census
Name: William Pearson Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Maria Pearson Father's Name: William Castleman Gender: Male Where born: Smithfield, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Lewisham Ecclesiastical parish: Forest Hill Christchurch County/Island: Kent Country: England
Registration district: Lewisham Sub-registration district: Sydenham ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 227 Piece: 417 Folio: 95 Page Number: 40 Household Members: Name Age William Pearson 23 Maria Pearson 22 Annie Pearson 8 Annie Jones 2 Niece Emma Jones 8 Months Niece William Castleman 55
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ErikaH
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7 Dec 2012 10:39 |
Is the 1862 birth cert proven - 100% - to be your ancestor?
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ErikaH
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7 Dec 2012 11:20 |
If you 'know' when he was baptised, you must have his mother's first name
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7 Dec 2012 11:32 |
1871 England Census
Name: Emma Jones Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Stepdaughter Mother's Name: Mary A Hitches Gender: Female Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England Civil parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Brixton ED, institution, or vessel: 10a Household schedule number: 176 Piece: 683 Folio: 66 Page Number: 28 Household Members: Name Age Henry Hitches 30 Mary A Hitches 30 Annie Jones 12 Emma Jones 11 Edith Hitches 5 Henry Hitches 4
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: Henry Hitches Age: Full Age Spouse Name: Mary Ann Jones...Widow Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 11 Nov 1865 Parish: St Pancras Old St Pancras Borough: Camden Register Type: Parish Register
Both fathers 'deceased'. No names on the register
Witnesses William Henry Castleman, and Frances Hitches.
Which rules out the possibility that the nieces in 1861 were related on William's side. That closes another line of enquiry which could have been pursued.
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: Mary Ann Castleman Spouse Name: John Jones Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 1 Feb 1858 Parish: Newington St Mary Borough: Southwark Father Name: William Castleman Spouse Father Name: John Jones Register Type: Parish Register
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Barry
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9 Nov 2014 19:24 |
A few years ago a got a lot of help from the Genes community to trace the family of my GGgrandfather above, but after many years I still have no definite proof who his parents were, but know his father was also William( from his marriage details). He was born in the St Lukes (London/Middlesex?) in 1837/8 and baptised 1/2/1939 at St Leonards Shoreditch aged 1. Any help would be appreciated Barry
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