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Thanks all. Sorry, unable to trace who told me baptism was 1/2/1839. Have a note
he was baptised St Leonards aged 1. Good to have occupations of William and Maria's fathers.Hope this may assist in further research.

From Seax for the 1859 marriage.

William's father was a Carpenter and Maria's father was a Church Clerk.

Chris

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about William George Peirson
Name: William George Peirson
Registration Year: 1839
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: St Luke
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 2
Page: 237

Barry did you buy the marriage cert for William and Maria. If so what occupation was William's father in please?

Margee I could'nt find it on the London records either. There was a William Pearson born 1818 whose father was a Traveller.

Barry, where did you get the exact baptism date? It doesn't show up on the London records.

\Hi Barry.

Just in case you had'nt got it here is the 1881 census for the family. Maria has been mistranscribed.


1881 England Census about William Pearson
Name: William Pearson
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Mona P. Pearson
Gender: Male
Where born: St Lukes, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: No 3 Hope Terrace Cornwall Road
Marital Status: Married

Occupation: News Agent****************

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 614
Folio: 118
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
William Pearson 43
Mona P. Pearson 43
William H. Pearson 19
Arthur Pearson 17
Walter Pearson 14
Louisa Pearson 12
George Pearson 11
Eleanor Pearson 8
Earnest Pearson 6
Alfred Pearson 2
Charles L. Pearson

Assume you realised my typo error- should be 1839 not 1939.

London baptisms don't have any record of that name, that date, St. Leonards Shoreditch.

A few years ago a got a lot of help from the Genes community to trace the family of
my GGgrandfather above, but after many years I still have no definite proof who his parents were, but know his father was also William( from his marriage details).
He was born in the St Lukes (London/Middlesex?) in 1837/8 and baptised 1/2/1939
at St Leonards Shoreditch aged 1.
Any help would be appreciated
Barry

1871 England Census

Name: Emma Jones
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's Name: Mary A Hitches
Gender: Female
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10a
Household schedule number: 176
Piece: 683
Folio: 66
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Hitches 30
Mary A Hitches 30
Annie Jones 12
Emma Jones 11
Edith Hitches 5
Henry Hitches 4


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Henry Hitches
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Jones...Widow
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Nov 1865
Parish: St Pancras Old St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Register

Both fathers 'deceased'. No names on the register

Witnesses William Henry Castleman, and Frances Hitches.

Which rules out the possibility that the nieces in 1861 were related on William's side. That closes another line of enquiry which could have been pursued.


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Mary Ann Castleman
Spouse Name: John Jones
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Feb 1858
Parish: Newington St Mary
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: William Castleman
Spouse Father Name: John Jones
Register Type: Parish Register

If you 'know' when he was baptised, you must have his mother's first name

Is the 1862 birth cert proven - 100% - to be your ancestor?

1861 England Census

Name: William Pearson
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria Pearson
Father's Name: William Castleman
Gender: Male
Where born: Smithfield, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Lewisham
Ecclesiastical parish: Forest Hill Christchurch
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Lewisham
Sub-registration district: Sydenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 227
Piece: 417
Folio: 95
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
William Pearson 23
Maria Pearson 22
Annie Pearson 8
Annie Jones 2 Niece
Emma Jones 8 Months Niece
William Castleman 55

If you obtain the 1859 marriage cert, you'll learn what the father's occupation was........might help with determining which is the correct family

I am still unable to prove for sure who was William 1838 parents other than his father was also William (from the marriage details kindly provided above).
I now know he was baptiied at St Leonards, Shoreditch age one .Any further info. would be greatly appreciated.
Barry

Thanks All,
Mel- The 1871 and 1891 are correct as Arthur was my Ggrandfather. I don't know how Chingford fits in (don't seem to be any other options), In 1861 they were living in Sydenham as their first child Annie was born there cSept 1860 , but I have got the birth cert. for William Henry Pearson 20/11/1862 which seems to fit as living at Hoxton Old Town and mother show as Maria Pearson formely Castleman.

What I am really interested in at the moment is finding the parents of William Pearson born St Lukes 1838 (living in Brixton Lambeth 1911)-father is also William-mother?
Regards
Barry.

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about William Pearson
Name: William Pearson
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Aug 1818
Father's Name: William Pearson
Mother's name: Mary Pearson
Parish or Poor Law Union: Holborn St Sepulchre
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Registers

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about William Pearson
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Name: William Pearson
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 1 Oct 1836
Father's Name: William Pearson BASKET MAKER************
Mother's name: Hannah Pearson
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard****************
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 10 June 1836********************

I think you either need one of the childrens birth certs or his marriage cert to be sure you have the right one.