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Barry

Barry Report 4 Nov 2012 15:27

I am trying to find the parents of my GGgrandfather William Pearson born St Lukes (Islington/Shoreditch?) but do not know any exact dates. I understand he was baptised at St Leonards Shoreditch when aged one and married a Maria Castleman.
I have been told of two options:
1841 Census-Wiliam Pearson married to Isabella both age 30, with William age 3 St Georges the Martyr , Southwark.
or
William Pearson baptised St Sepulchre London (this William parents i.e. William 1838 grandparents were William and Mary.
One may be right or both wrong-would appreciate it if anyone could help.
Barry

Barry

Barry Report 4 Nov 2012 15:29

St Sepulchre baptism date was 18 Aug 1818.
Barry

safc

safc Report 4 Nov 2012 15:31

????

groom's name: William Pearson
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Maria Castleman
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 1859
marriage place: Chingford, Essex, England
groom's father's name: William Pearson
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: William Castleman
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M16394-2
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1564254
reference number: 2:3DLD1MJ

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 4 Nov 2012 15:33

Is this him for ref please?

1891 England Census
about William Pearson
Name: William Pearson
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria Pearson
Gender: Male
Where born: London City, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 411
Folio: 59
Page Number: 48
Household Members: Name Age
William Pearson 53
Maria Pearson 52
Walter Pearson 23
Louisa Pearson 22
George Pearson 19
Eleanor Pearson 17
Ernest Pearson 15
Alfred T Pearson 12
Charles L Pearson 10
Eliza Pearson 8


safc

safc Report 4 Nov 2012 15:38

name: William Pearson
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 33
relationship to head of household: Self
birthplace: St Luke's, Middlesex
record type: Household
registration district: Shoreditch
sub-district: Haggerstone, West
event parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
county: London, Middlesex
Household Gender Age Birthplace
self William Pearson M 33 St Luke's, Middlesex
wife Maria Pearson F 33 Islington, Middlesex
daughter Annie Pearson F 10 Sydenham, Surrey
son William Pearson M 8 Horden, Middlesex
son Arthur Pearson M 6 Horden, Middlesex
son Walter Pearson M 3 Horden, Middlesex
daughter Louisa Pearson F 2 Horden, Middlesex

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 4 Nov 2012 15:42

Well Chingford Essex is a long way from where they were born!!

There are a couple of William Pearson's marrying Maria's on the London marriages so are you sure you have the right one?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 4 Nov 2012 15:47

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1287584

(could be connected)

Chris :)

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 4 Nov 2012 15:48

Who was your grandfather and what year was he born please as your first post is not clear.

safc

safc Report 4 Nov 2012 15:52

Births Jun 1838 (>99%)
PEARSON William Whitechapel 2 471

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 4 Nov 2012 16:22

I think you either need one of the childrens birth certs or his marriage cert to be sure you have the right one.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 4 Nov 2012 16:26

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about William Pearson
??????????????

Name: William Pearson
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 1 Oct 1836
Father's Name: William Pearson BASKET MAKER************
Mother's name: Hannah Pearson
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard****************
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 10 June 1836********************

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 4 Nov 2012 16:36

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about William Pearson
Name: William Pearson
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Aug 1818
Father's Name: William Pearson
Mother's name: Mary Pearson
Parish or Poor Law Union: Holborn St Sepulchre
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Registers

Barry

Barry Report 6 Nov 2012 12:38

Thanks All,
Mel- The 1871 and 1891 are correct as Arthur was my Ggrandfather. I don't know how Chingford fits in (don't seem to be any other options), In 1861 they were living in Sydenham as their first child Annie was born there cSept 1860 , but I have got the birth cert. for William Henry Pearson 20/11/1862 which seems to fit as living at Hoxton Old Town and mother show as Maria Pearson formely Castleman.

What I am really interested in at the moment is finding the parents of William Pearson born St Lukes 1838 (living in Brixton Lambeth 1911)-father is also William-mother?
Regards
Barry.



Barry

Barry Report 7 Dec 2012 10:22

I am still unable to prove for sure who was William 1838 parents other than his father was also William (from the marriage details kindly provided above).
I now know he was baptiied at St Leonards, Shoreditch age one .Any further info. would be greatly appreciated.
Barry

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Dec 2012 10:32

If you obtain the 1859 marriage cert, you'll learn what the father's occupation was........might help with determining which is the correct family

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Dec 2012 10:36

1861 England Census

Name: William Pearson
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria Pearson
Father's Name: William Castleman
Gender: Male
Where born: Smithfield, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Lewisham
Ecclesiastical parish: Forest Hill Christchurch
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Lewisham
Sub-registration district: Sydenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 227
Piece: 417
Folio: 95
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
William Pearson 23
Maria Pearson 22
Annie Pearson 8
Annie Jones 2 Niece
Emma Jones 8 Months Niece
William Castleman 55

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Dec 2012 10:39

Is the 1862 birth cert proven - 100% - to be your ancestor?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Dec 2012 11:20

If you 'know' when he was baptised, you must have his mother's first name

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Dec 2012 11:32

1871 England Census

Name: Emma Jones
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's Name: Mary A Hitches
Gender: Female
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10a
Household schedule number: 176
Piece: 683
Folio: 66
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Hitches 30
Mary A Hitches 30
Annie Jones 12
Emma Jones 11
Edith Hitches 5
Henry Hitches 4


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Henry Hitches
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Jones...Widow
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Nov 1865
Parish: St Pancras Old St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Register

Both fathers 'deceased'. No names on the register

Witnesses William Henry Castleman, and Frances Hitches.

Which rules out the possibility that the nieces in 1861 were related on William's side. That closes another line of enquiry which could have been pursued.


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Mary Ann Castleman
Spouse Name: John Jones
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Feb 1858
Parish: Newington St Mary
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: William Castleman
Spouse Father Name: John Jones
Register Type: Parish Register

Barry

Barry Report 9 Nov 2014 19:24

A few years ago a got a lot of help from the Genes community to trace the family of
my GGgrandfather above, but after many years I still have no definite proof who his parents were, but know his father was also William( from his marriage details).
He was born in the St Lukes (London/Middlesex?) in 1837/8 and baptised 1/2/1939
at St Leonards Shoreditch aged 1.
Any help would be appreciated
Barry