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(lol Gins, just read Death notice again, son Frk. John!, did smack meself, lol)

Chris :)

Doh

Deaths Dec 1886 (>99%)
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Armstrong Frederick Charles 0 Stow, S. 4a 397

Births Dec 1882 (>99%)
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Armstrong Frederick John Chelsea 1a 324

(above might fit with 1884 Passenger?)

Chris :)

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Frederick J Armstrong
Spouse Name: Elsie E A Thompson
Marriage Date: 1909
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1909
Registration Number: 6706

I wonder if this should be Maria Louisa?


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Frederick John Armstrong
Name: Frederick John Armstrong
Death Date: 1941
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Mary Louisa
Registration Year: 1941
Registration Place: Petersham, New South Wales
Registration Number: 23717

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980

Name: Frederick John Armstrong * Elsie Easter Armstrong
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1930
State: New South Wales
District: Reid
Subdistrict: Lidcombe

Fred is listed as a fruit grader

Hi Gins & Chris,
Thank you so much for your help,I have just checked the Queensland,Australia Births,Deaths & Marriages for Alice Ethel and found her birth certificate which I will send for.
She was born in Queensland 1885 to Henry Bowers & Louisa Bertram yay might have found the right spelling for Louisa's last name lol.
So I guess Fred belongs to someone else lol.
Now to get on with the brother Harry O.
I know I have said thank you but you all do a great job so thanks again.
Cheryl.

Hi Cheryl

I think the birth for Frederick John Armstrong that Chris posted is a child of Henry and Louisa as it matches the shipping record for 1884

The only way to be sure is buy the birth certificate, which you can order online from here, cost £9.25 which includes postage

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/


Heres Harry


Births Mar 1881
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ARMSTRONG Harry Osmond Cosford 4a 579


Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Harry Osmond Armstrong (Brickmaker) & Caroline Ellen Armstrong
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1930
State: New South Wales
District: Martin
Subdistrict: Ryde

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Harry Osmond Armstrong
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1954
State: New South Wales
District: Bennelong
Subdistrict: Gladesville

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Harry O Armstrong
Spouse Name: Caroline E Collings
Marriage Date: 1904
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Waterloo, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1904
Registration number: 10199

NSW Birth
21738/1892 ARMSTRONG CHARLES D HENRY B LOUISA M MARRICKVILLE

(just wondered if the above Birth fitted, or was that another Henry B?, the Death notice for father Henry Bowers, made mention of son Frk. John, residence Woodburn Street, Lidcombe)

Chris :)

edits (found below Death)

8132/1892 ARMSTRONG CHARLES D HENRY B LOUISA MARRICKVILLE

Mornin Chris~~~~


Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Harry E F Armstrong
Birth Date: 1907
Father's Name: Harry O Armstrong
Mother's name: Caroline E
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Place: Materloo, New South Wales
Registration number: 19383

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
aboName: Joseph O Armstrong
Birth Date: 1910
Father's Name: Harry O Armstrong
Mother's name: Caroline E
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1910
Registration Place: St Peters, New South Wales
Registration number: 43514

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Myrtle H E E Armstrong
Birth Date: 1905
Father's Name: Harry G Armstrong
Mother's name: Caroline E
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1905
Registration Place: Waterloo, New South Wales
Registration number: 18741

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Frederick W Armstrong
Birth Date: 1908
Father's Name: Harry O Armstrong
Mother's name: Ellen C
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Place: Hurstville, New South Wales
Registration number: 36349

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Myrtle M E E Armstrong
Spouse Name: Joseph T C Parker
Marriage Date: 1924
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Ryde, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1924
Registration number: 7782

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Joseph C Parker
Death Date: 1934
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: Joseph T
Mother's name: Myrtle M E E
Registration Year: 1934
Registration Place: Annandale, New South Wales
Registration number: 18388




Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Harry E F Armstrong
Spouse Name: Edna C Sharpe
Marriage Date: 1929
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Ryde, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1929
Registration number: 13649

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Joseph O Armstrong
Spouse Name: Stella Harradine
Marriage Date: 1934
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Ryde, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1934
Registration number: 17188



Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Frederick W Armstrong
Death Date: 1913
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: Harry O
Mother's name: Caroline
Registration Year: 1913
Registration Place: Balmain North, New South Wales
Registration number: 6052

(sorry Gins, Mornin', lol, your'e on a roll, keep going!)

Chris :)

Chris, I cant find a death for Henry O or Caroline Ellen?

And these possibles

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Olly E Armstrong
Birth Date: 1901
Father's Name: Henry Armstrong
Mother's name: Louisa
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1901
Registration Place: Parkes, New South Wales
Registration number: 34739

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Ella L Armstrong
Birth Date: 1905
Father's Name: Henry Armstrong
Mother's name: Louisa
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1905
Registration Place: Gulgons, New South Wales
Registration number: 23462

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Lilian E Armstrong
Spouse Name: Ernest J Cornish
Marriage Date: 1920
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Coolamon, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1920
Registration number: 11690

Australia Cemetery Index, 1808-2007
Name: Ernest John Cornish
Death Age: 32
Birth Date: abt 1897
Death Date: 6 Oct 1929
Cemetery: Coolah Cemetery
Cemetery Location: Dubbo Region

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Lilian Ella Cornish
Spouse Name: Leslie Thomas Randall
Marriage Date: 1942
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Chatswood, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1942
Registration number: 2512

Wow Gins you have been working heaps on this thank you ever so much,the rest of my family will be surprised.
So with all this you do think that Frederick Armstrong is related is that right.

Its a possibility that he is as we have a lot of Fredericks in the family and I noticed one of them was a Frederick W.

My uncle is Walter Frederick Sheehan this is his Armstrong side of his family.

You and Chris are wonders.
Thank you.
Cheryl.

Do you mean Frederick John Armstrong? I think he may well be a child of Louisa and Henry

(not seeing Deaths either, might have to wake the Cherilyn one up, lol)

Chris :)

(If you get any spare time Cheryl, have a look round on Aus. Newspapers, surprising what snippets can be found)

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y

Births Dec 1885 (>99%)
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Collings Caroline Ellen Bromley 2a 409

(just adding above as possible?, not seeing Aus. Birth)

Chris :)

Hi Gins & Chris,
Yes Gins I think he might be too,and I will check the newspapers Chris.
Thank you both heaps.
Cheryl.

A child for Frederick J and Elsie


Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Beryl M Armstrong
Birth Date: 1910
Father's Name: Frederick J Armstrong
Mother's name: Elsie E
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1910
Registration Place: Petersham, New South Wales
Registration number: 7575

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Beryl M M Armstrong
Spouse Name: William J M Roser
Marriage Date: 1929
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Ashfield, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1929
Registration number: 11046

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: William J M Roser
Birth Date: 1907
Father's Name: Hugh K Roser
Mother's name: Laura
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Place: Balmain South, New South Wales
Registration number: 21629



And Elsie' details. I checked the details from her birth certificate as someone has her in their tree at Ancestry


Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Elsie Thompson
Birth Date: 1889
Father's Name: Thomas Thompson <<Coach driver
Mother's name: Mary McCrink
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Place: Moruya, New South Wales
Registration number: 20183

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Elsie E Armstrong
Death Date: 1934
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's Name: Thomas D
Mother's name: Mary A
Registration Year: 1934
Registration Place: Newtown, New South Wales
Registration number: 9573


Elsie' parents marriage

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Thomas Thompson
Spouse Name: Mary Mccrink
Marriage Date: 1888
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Moruya, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1888
Registration number: 4822


Cheryl, have a look back on this page as I have added a child for Mrytle and Joseph Parker