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Trying to find my Nan Minnie Hodgkinson's mum

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Pauline

Pauline Report 12 Aug 2012 18:15

Please can anyone help I have been trying for years to find out information regarding my Nan's mother. My Nan Minnie Hodgkinson was born in America on the 14th September 1897. to Father Charles Hodgkinson and mother ?? I undertand that her mother died not long after my Nan was born. My Nan had a brother Charles Wilfred also born in America. When my Nan's mother died her father Charles returned to the UK with Charles and Minnie and married Margaret Kirfoot a cotton weaver in Chorley soon after arriving 'home' from Amercia. I know that Minnie and Charles Wilfred are found on the 1901 census aged 3yrs & 7 yrs respective - residing in the Chorley Union work house as paupers.

If anyone can shed any light on this query/queries I woujld be eternally grateful. I know it is a long shot but Hope springs eternal as they say.

Thank you

Pauline

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 12 Aug 2012 19:06

Hi is this her in 1911

1911 Census RecordPersonal Information
Name Minnie Hodgkinson
Relationship to Head of Household Patient
Gender F
Age 13
Estimated Year of Birth 1898
Occupation School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Philadelphia Usa Resident
Nationality Unknown
Enumerator Information
Address Fazakerley Liverpool
Parish Fazakerley
Town Fazakerley Liverpool
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN22355 RD455 SD3 ED8 SN9999
Administrative County Lancashire
Registration District West Derby
Registration Sub District Fazakerley
Enumeration District 8
Reference Information
Folio 58
Page 16
Piece 22355
RD number 455
SD number 3
ED number 8
Schedule 9999

Janice

Janice Report 12 Aug 2012 19:07

Name: Infant Hodgekinson
Birth Date: abt 1897
Age: 10/12
Port of Departure: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Arrival Date: 2 Oct 1898
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Adria
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Adria' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Official Number: 2178

Father is Charles age 33
Also there is
Chs Wilfred age 6
Mary Alice age 8

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Aug 2012 19:10

Hello Pauline - where and when was Charles born and what was his occupation?

I'll see if I can find his arrival in US and who he was with.

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 12 Aug 2012 19:11

I've not been able to locate the family in the U.S.A. just yet.

Is this them arriving back in England?

October 1898 - ADRIA - Philadelphia to Liverpool

Charles Hodgekinson - 33 - labourer
Mary Alice Hodgekinson - 8
Charles Wilfred Hodgekinson - 6
An infant Hodgekinson - 1/2

Oh dear - Much too slow.

I'll leave this on here though, so you can see we're all trying for you.

Unfortunately, not much of the US 1890 census has survived.

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 12 Aug 2012 19:19

fathers marriage

Marriage Record Name Charles Hodgkinson
Year of Marriage 1899
Quarter of Marriage Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Chorley
Registration County Lancashire
Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912
Volume Number 8E
Volume Page 989


married margaret ann kirfoot

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Aug 2012 19:20

If this is the right death for Charles Wilfred in Canada then at least we know he was born Maryland:

British Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986

death date: 01 Sep 1960
death place: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
name: Charles Wilfred Hodgkinson
gender: Male
age: 68y
birth date: 05 Aug 1892
birthplace: Maryland, United States
marital status: Married
spouse: Blodwin Perkins
father: Charles Hodgkinson
mother:
indian agency:
indian band/tribe:
film number: 2033346
digital folder number: 4437632
image number: 1193
british columbia archives film number: B13248
registration number: 60 09 010669

Source Citation
"British Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FLTM-MD9 : accessed 12 Aug 2012), Charles Wilfred Hodgkinson, 01 Sep 1960.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Aug 2012 19:23

His WW1 record narrows it down to Baltimore:

Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918

Name: Charles Wilfred Hodgkinson
Birth Date: 5 Aug 1892
Birth Location: Baltimore, United States of America
Relative: Blodwin Hodgkinson
Relationship: Wife
Regiment Number: 104271

So if we could find a birth record in Baltimore, Maryland then we might get the mothers name!

Barbara

Barbara Report 12 Aug 2012 19:41



Name:

Mary A Hodgkinson
Age:
10
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1891
Gender:
Female
Where born:
United States
Civil parish:
Whittle
Ecclesiastical parish:
St John
Town:
Whittle le Woods
County/Island:
Lancashire
Country:
England
Street Address: Home for Orphans
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
Registration district:
Chorley
Sub-registration district:
Leyland
ED, institution, or vessel:
10
Neighbors:
View others on page
Household schedule number:
84
Piece:
3932
Folio:
46
Page Number:
13
Household Members:
Name
Age
Ada Alice Dean>>>>>>Matron
26
Susan Griffith
15
Mary A Hodgkinson
10
Isabel Olkam
10
Amelia Pilkinson
9
Jessie Drake
8
Maude Drake
6
Sarah A Chatwyn
5








MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Aug 2012 19:41

Had hoped to find children with a maternal grandparent in 1901, sadly not:

1901 census transcription details for: Chorley Union Workshouse, Eaves Lane Chorley

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 3938 Folio: 129 Page: 3
Reg. District: Chorley
Sub District: Chorley
Parish: Chorley
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: St George

Address: Chorley
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HODGKINSON, Charles Wilfrid Pauper Inmate M 8 1893 Attending School America British U S A
HODGKINSON, Minnie Alvina Pauper Inmate F 3 1898 America British

EDIT: Oops - I see this was in the opening post.

mgnv

mgnv Report 13 Aug 2012 01:06

Don't know if this is your guy, but...
Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1899
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HODGKINSON Charles KIRFOOT Margaret Ann Chorley Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston RO/29/154

mgnv

mgnv Report 13 Aug 2012 03:16

You can view Charles's CEF attestations via a search at:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php

http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-5C7C157/gbsearch/Births,Marriages,Deaths
Vital Event Death Registration
Name: Blodwyn Hodgkinson
Event Date: 1977 8 6 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Age: 80
Gender: female
Event Place: Vancouver
Reg. Number: 1977-09-011432
B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13578
GSU Microfilm Number: 2050949

Vital Event Death Registration
Name: Charles W Hodgkinson
Event Date: 1960 9 1 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Age: 67
Gender: male
Event Place: Vancouver
Reg. Number: 1960-09-010669
B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13248
GSU Microfilm Number: 2033346

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Aug 2012 07:07

so Minnie and Charles were put into one place some time before the 1901 census, and Mary Alice was put into another home for orphans.


I wonder why???



what happened to father Charles and his new wife?

Is it a case of new wife not wanting any step children, or did Charles die??




sylvia

Choccy

Choccy Report 13 Aug 2012 07:22


looks like father Charles has died -

1911

Reg. District: Chorley
Sub District: Chorley
Parish: Chorley
Enum. District: 1
Address: 34 Preston Road Chorley
County: Lancashire


HODGKINSON, Margaret Ann Head Widow F 46 1865 Weaver Chorley Lancs
KIRFOOT, Annie Niece Single F 16 1895 Weaver Chorley Lancs


Choccy

Choccy Report 13 Aug 2012 07:27



1901

RG number RG13
Piece: 3935
Folio: 59
Page: 22
Reg. District: Chorley
Sub District: Chorley
Parish: Chorley
Enum. District: 3
Ecclesiastical District: St Peter
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 50, Preston Road, Chorley
County: Lancashire


KIRFOOT, Ann Head Widow F 57 1844 Confectioner Shopkeeper
Whittle, Lancashire
KIRFOOT, Thomas Son Single M 27 1874 Overlooker (Cotton Mill)
Chorley, Lancashire
KIRFOOT, Theresa Daughter Single F 20 1881 Cotton Winder
Chorley, Lancashire
HODGKINSON, Margaret A Daughter Married F 36 1865 Cotton Weaver
Chorley, Lancashire

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Aug 2012 07:39

This is Margaret in 1901

Name: Margaret A Hodgkinson
[Margaret A Wilkinson]
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ellen Wilkinson
Gender: Female
Where born: Chorley, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Chorley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Chorley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 130
Piece: 3935
Folio: 59
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Wilkinson 61
Ann Garstang 51
Thomas Garstang 27
Theresa Garstang 20
Margaret A Hodgkinson 36

It is mistranscribed...Ellen Wilkinson and Ann Garstang are next door. Missing from transcript is Ann Kirfoot

Then in 1911 she is widowed
Name: Margaret Ann Hodgkinson
Age in 1911: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Chorley, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Chorley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 34 Preston Road, Chorley
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Weaver
Registration district: Chorley
Registration District Number: 475
Sub-registration district: Chorley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Piece: 25200
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Ann Hodgkinson 46
Annie Kirfoot 16

This is the only death that fits

Deaths Jun 1907 (>99%)
Hodgkinson Charles Jesse 42 Ashton 8d 357

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Aug 2012 07:50

Choccy - I didn't refresh before I posted - but we got to same place :-)

Deleted tettenhall details - not correct Charles

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Aug 2012 08:03

Is this Charles junior arriving in Canada

Name: Charles Hodgkinson
Gender: Male
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Date of Arrival: 27 Jul 1912
Vessel: Virginian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Virginian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4789

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Aug 2012 08:06

Deaths of sons

death date: 01 Sep 1960
death place: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
name: Charles Wilfred Hodgkinson
gender: Male
age: 68y
birth date: 05 Aug 1892
birthplace: Maryland, United States
marital status: Married
spouse: Blodwin Perkins
father: Charles Hodgkinson
digital folder number: 4437632
british columbia archives film number: B13248
registration number: 60 09 010669

death date: 13 Mar 1973
death place: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
name: Victor Llewellyn Hodgkinson
gender: Male
age: 52y
birth date: 16 Apr 1920
birthplace: Calgary, Alberta
marital status: Married
spouse: Margaret Lavanchea Smith
father: Charles Wilfred Hodgkinson
mother: Blodwyn Perkins
digital folder number: 4479331
british columbia archives film number: B13323
registration number: 73-09-004161

So Blodwyn a Perkins

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 13 Aug 2012 08:14

Wonder if this is the father Charles when young??





1871 England Census
about Charles Hodgkinson

Name: Charles Hodgkinson
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Son

Father's Name: Thomas Hodgkinson

Mother's Name: Ellen Hodgkinson

Gender: Male

Where born: Chorley, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Chorley
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Chorley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Chorley


Thomas Hodgkinson 31
Ellen Hodgkinson 29

Samuel Hodgkinson 5
Charles Hodgkinson 5
James Hodgkinson 4
Thomas Hodgkinson 2
Wilfred Hodgkinson 8 Months
Joseph Taylor 59
Annia Foster 11