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1861 census -

BELLIS, Robert Head Married M 52 1809 Chair Maker St Helens, Lancashire VIEW
BELLIS, Margaret Wife Married F 60 1801 Prescot, Lancashire VIEW
BELLIS, Elizabeth Daughter F 14 1847 Cotton Winder Salford, Lancashire VIEW

Piece: 2907
Folio: 32
Page: 20
Registration District: Salford
Civil Parish: Pendlebury
Municipal Borough: Salford
Address: Weaste Lane Corner, Pendlebury, Salford
County: Lancashire

In 1841 Margaret is alone with 5 children


Perhaps she was a single parent who later married a Henry somebody.

If someone could post the household of 1851 with William recorded as a son in law ( stepson maybe) to the head of the house, it might give some clues.

Santa ..... " I don't see any other Henry Mercer births in Prescot around that time. "

It was never established that Henry Mercer was born in Prescot ( or that he even existed for that matter)

Would be interesting to know if she was a spinster or a widow.

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Marriages Mar 1855 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

***Bellis Robert - Bolton 8c 255
HARDMAN James Bolton 8c 255
KELLY Ann Bolton 8c 255
***MERCER Margaret - Bolton 8c 255

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EDIT :

Marriage: 19 Feb 1855
St John the Evangelist, Farnworth with Kearsley, Lancashire, England

Robert Bellis - (X), 40 Mechanic Bachelor of Farnworth
Margaret Mercer - (X), 50 Widow of Farnworth <<<<<<<
Groom's Father: Robert Bellis, Potter
Bride's Father: William Byron, Watchmaker
Witness: William Stones; Margaret Stones, (X)
Married by Banns by: Richd. Thistlethwaite


So it looks like she was born Margaret Byron


Which means that the marriage I posted earlier look like the right one


Marriage: 8 Feb 1829 St Wilfrid, Farnworth near Prescot, Lancashire, England
Henry Mercer - (X), Labourer of this parish
Margaret Byron - (X), Spinster of this parish
Witness: Peter Seddon; James Southern
Married by Banns by: Wm Thompson - minister

Details of the burial for Henry

Burial: 3 Dec 1845 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
Henry Mercer -
Age: 61
Abode: Prescot
Buried by: J. Crump

If this is correct baptism for Margaret, she was older than she let on !

Baptisms: 18 Nov 1801 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
Margaret Byron - Daur. of William Byron & Elizth.
***** Born: 1 Nov
Abode: Prescot
Occupation: Watchmr
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Father's occupation fits

PM RECEIVED ...

Hi , thanks for your interest and time but i've given up again so don't waste your efforts.l
thanks again Dave


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Oh dear !

Guess we still haven't found William's birth which was the initial request though.

Hello , i didn't know all this was going on , so I couldn't put information in ?
You have all been wonderful but please don't waste any more time , god what have i started ?

:-(

Mike,

I did post the 1851 census with William as a son in law - 20 Jun 2012 00:08

Words fail me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dea

Me too, Dea.

What was the point of posting one day and saying forget it the next??????

Dear all, I am not ungrateful, I posted on here hoping for hints , help , etc.
I didn't expect a squad of experts to appear and practically do my reasearch for me all in 1 day ?
You are all extremely adept at this and I want to thank you very much.
You overwhelmed me with you assistance but didn't teach me ( I don't know how you got from A to E with steps B,C and D missing ?)
I would be thankful of any hints on how to do it , where to look etc (eg what is Lancashire OPR ?)
Again, you are amazing and thank you

If you google Lancs OPR - you'll get there

I'm sorry, but you really have a bit of a nerve - saying we didn't 'teach' you.

You didn't answer our questions, and never once provided a solid FACT.

You posted on 'Find Ancestors' which is what people tried to help you to do.

From your original post

Looking for a Henry Mercer and his son William (B1837/8) . There are links with Salford and possibly Prescot where William was possibly born ?
I have William's marriage and death cert's but cannot find birth or mother's name ?

No mention of 'hints' - just a statement that you wanted to find two males

If you want to 'learn' how to research your family, buy one of the plethora of books on the market - or join your local FHS. Or, if you are retired, the U3A in your area probably has at least one genealogy course running

Unless you subscribe to sites such as Ancestry or Find My Past etc, there are some free sites which you should put in your favourites for future reference


FREEBMD ( for certificates after 1st July 1837)
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

LANCASHIRE BMD ( from1837)
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

LANCS OPC ( Parish records from selected churches)
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

FAMILYSEARCH ( free 1881 census and some parish records)
https://www.familysearch.org/search/

PM RECEIVED .....

Hi, thank you very much for that , i will check them all out