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In the 1911 census my gt gt Grandmother filled in more information than needed as she was already widowed, but the interesting thing was there was another child born alive before 1911 but must have died quite young, because I have quite a lot of information about the family and have found all others. I have found on BMD a birth for Joseph Marsh June 1879 in Blackburn and death March 1880 Blackburn, wondered if anyone can get information to see if the parents were Edward Marsh and Ann, because I don't want to get the certificate if it is not our Joseph.They had two other children born in Blackburn and the rest in East Retford. Any help would be greatly appreciated. :-(

Oh heck!! Should read 1880, have missed the button, so sorry everyone

You will have to buy the cert unless you can find a burial or baptism for him

We all make mistakes which is why they put a rubber on the end of pencils, ;-)

From Lancashirebmd site
Birth 1879

Surname .Forename(s) .Sub-District ..Registers At.... Mother's Maiden Name
MARSH ....Joseph............ Blackburn ..Blackburn ..........EASTHAM

Thanks all. Gwyn if this is the Joseph I was looking at its not mine, his mother maiden would have been Connors or O'Connor.
Thanks for looking Teresa. :-)

Maybe parents of 1879 Joseph ??

Marriages Dec 1867

BARLOW George Rushton .. Blackburn 8e 585
CATLOW Margret ..Blackburn 8e 585
EASTHAM Mary Jane ..Blackburn 8e 585 <<<<<<<<
MARSH John ..Blackburn 8e 585 <<<<<<<<<

I have found the marriage of Joseph's parents
They were married in Blackburn in the last quarter of 1875. Wifes maiden name O'connor,



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View Record John Brindle Oct-Nov-Dec 1875 Blackburn Lancashire
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View Record Edward Marsh Oct-Nov-Dec 1875 Blackburn Lancashire
View Record Ann O'connor Oct-Nov-Dec 1875 Blackburn Lancashire

Moira,
that is definately my gt gt Grandparents, but finding this other baby is proving a mystery!! I can't even find Ann's birth, she was supposed to be born in Liverpool, my Aunt says Bootle, but her ages on census records and her marriage don't always add up!! On her marriage certificate her Father's name is Michael O'Connor, but I have searched for a marriage for Michael and Ann's Mother and also a birth for Ann, Both in vain!!

Because the census was not taken on the same date every 10 years the ages do differ here are the dates I have been given
1841 06/06
1851 30/03
1861 07/04
1871 02/04
1881 03/04
1891 05/04
1901 31/03
It is also possible that the birth was in Ireland and the family came over to Liverpool after the birth,do you have Ann's mothers name?

Moira,
I do not have Ann's Mothers name, a cousin of my Dad's said the maiden name of Ann's Mother was Leahy or Feahy (spelling could be slightly different) but as he is very old he could be mistaken!! I have not been able to find a marriage to a Michael O'Connor or Conners though!! :-(

On Ann's marriage certificate, what is shown as her father Michael's occupation?

Gwyn

This site has some good info.


http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

Hi Gwyn.
Michael's occupation is a stoker, doesn't say what on!.
thanks Moira for the lancsbmd site
Teresa

Some-one sent me an 1861 census ;- Michael Connor 40, born Ireland a widower, Dock Labourer, Ann Connor 7 born Liverpool, both lodging with William Poole 50, Ann Poole 47 and children St Aideen's Parish Liverpool. This looks like my gt gt Grandmother with her Father, but I have tried to find both of them in 1871 on Familysearch site and can't find either of them!! If Michael was a stoker by 1871 and on a ship did they still go on census forms??
Teresa : :-S

is this the family in 1881?

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Ed. MARSH Head M Male 31 Retford, Nottingham, England Brick Layer
Ann MARSH Wife M Female 27 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Card Room Hand (Cotton)
Thos. MARSH Son U Male 4 Darwen, Lancashire, England Scholar
Ed. MARSH Son Male 2 Darwen, Lancashire, England
Sus. MCFETHER Lodger W Female 67 Retford, Nottingham, England Nurse

Source Information:
Dwelling 5 Hutchinson Ct
Census Place Over Darwen, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1342007
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4205 / 6
Page Number 6

1871 census
Name: Ann Connor
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 [Abt 1854]
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Michael Connor
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Aidans
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 52
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 3764
Folio: 130
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Michael Connor 58
Ann Connor 19
Mary Murphy 15

Michael's occupation is a fireman in a gas works

Jude

1871 Mary Murphy is a grand daughter

same family in 1861

RG number: RG09
Piece: 2657
Book: 135
Page: 4
Reg. District: Liverpool
Sub District: 1 St Martin
Parish: Liverpool
Enum. District: 52
Ecclesiastical District: St Aidens
City/Municipal Borough: Liverpool
Address: 36, Hedley Street, Liverpool
County: Lancashire

POOLE, William Head Married M 50 1811 Dock Labourer
Wales
POOLE, Ann Wife F 47 1814
Ireland
POOLE, Mary Daughter F 11 1850 Scholar
Liverpool
Lancashire
POOLE, William Son M 9 1852 Scholar
Liverpool
Lancashire
CONNOR, Michael Lodger Widower M 40 1821 Dock Labourer
Ireland
CONNOR, Ann Lodger F 7 1854 Scholar
Liverpool
Lancashire
MURPHY, Mary Lodger Orphan F 5 1856
Liverpool
Lancashire

If I have found the correct 1911 census she had four children who died. Do you know the names of the other three ?

Jude