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JayB
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7 May 2012 11:24 |
Here's 1911 Census for Louisa Viney
1911 Census Record Personal Information Name Louisa Viney Relationship to Head of Household Wife Condition / Years Married Married / 25 Years Total Children Born Alive 3 Children Still Living 3 Gender F Age 51 Estimated Year of Birth 1860 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Somerset Taunton Enumerator Information Address 86 West Street Parish Bristol Type of Building Shop Number of Rooms Six Rooms Inhabited Y Reference RG14PN15023 RG78PN906 RD319 SD6 ED26 SN184 Administrative County Gloucestershire Registration District Bristol Registration Sub District St Philip and St Jacob Enumeration District 26
She is there with: Edwin Head 49 a Garment Dyer Edith Daughter 23 Assisting with business Lily Daughter 17 Assisting in business Ernest Son 14 School
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JayB
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7 May 2012 11:10 |
Hi Cherilyn,
It's very clear 28 so think you could be right :-D
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7 May 2012 09:47 |
Thanks Janet, looks good for her I think...
Is Emma's age definitely 28 on the original (she would be more like 36!)
Maybe she is saving face from being a cradle-snatcher (now they would call her a cougar!)
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JayB
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7 May 2012 08:35 |
Hi Cherilyn,
Here's the 1871 Census again, this time with them all seperate. Jane is stated as being Sister in Law to Walter. Although the writing on the census definately looks like the name BRAY it could be BRAG and the writer just hasn't covered the top of the y to make it a g. Hope that makes sense. Ok waffling over lol. 1871 Census Record Name Walter Nutt Age 29 Estimated Year of Birth 1842 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Address Thrissell Street District Clifton, St Philip & Jacob Parish St Philip & Jacob Administrative County Gloucestershire Birth Place Somerset Birth County Somerset
1871 Census Record Name Emma Nutt Age 28 Estimated Year of Birth 1843 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Address Thrissell Street District Clifton, St Philip & Jacob Parish St Philip & Jacob Administrative County Gloucestershire Birth Place Somerset Birth County Somerset
1871 Census Record Name Jane Bray Age 22 Estimated Year of Birth 1849 Relationship to Head of Household Sister-In-Law Occupation Address Thrissell Street District Clifton, St Philip & Jacob Parish St Philip & Jacob Administrative County Gloucestershire Birth Place Somerset Birth County Somerset
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Cherilyn
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7 May 2012 03:55 |
Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%) Bragg Jane Clifton 6a 267 Frost Solomon Clifton 6a 267
1881 Soloman FROST Head M Male 32 Bristol Wood Carver Jane FROST Wife M Female 32 Taunton Dressmaker Mary R. FROST Daur Female 7 Bristol Sch [should be Mary K. - Kate] Dwelling 9 Oxford Place Census Place Bristol St Philip & Jacob Out, Gloucester, England Family History Library Film 1341601 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2494 / 103 Page Number 25
Can't find their deaths.
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Cherilyn
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7 May 2012 02:57 |
Another thought - this is the 1871 - is that Emma's youngest sister Jane Bragg with them, mistranscribed??? Is her relationship to Walter stated?
Wath Nutt 29 Emma Nutt 28 >>>>Jane Broy 22 Edwd Rakes 15
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7 May 2012 02:52 |
just noticed this - look who was staying with the Hoskins family in 1861!
John Hoskins 22 [think this should be 29] Mary Ann Hoskins 29 Anne E Hoskins 4 Frederick Wm Hoskins 3 Louisa M Hoskins 1 George Murray 15 >>>>>>>Walter Nutt 19
Maybe he and Emma did marry after all and she 'fudged' her age! This fits with his age in 1871 with Emma when he was 29...
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Cherilyn
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7 May 2012 02:19 |
Wow, thanks Jonesy, great stuff! Also thanks to PrickyHolly & Janet.
Found this:
Deaths Mar 1892 (>99%) Facey Thomas Bennett 62 Cardiff 11a 220
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6 May 2012 11:45 |
Marriages Sep 1885 Hoskins Louisa Mary Barton R. 6a 297 VINEY Edwin Barton R. 6a 297
1891:
Name: Louisa Viney Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Edwin Viney Gender: Female Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England Civil parish: St Philip and St Jacob Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Barton Regis Sub-registration district: St Philip ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1980 Folio: 124 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Edwin Viney 29 Louisa Viney 30 Edith Viney 3
1901: Name: Louisa Viney Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Edwin Viney Gender: Female Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England Civil parish: Bristol Ecclesiastical parish: Moorfields St Matthew County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Bristol Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 35 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 140 Piece: 2391 Folio: 92 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Edwin Viney 40 Louisa Viney 41 Edith Viney 13 Lilian Viney 7 Ernest Viney 4
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Jonesey
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6 May 2012 11:04 |
Marriages Sep 1855 Bragg Mary Ann Taunton 5c 607 Hoskins John Taunton 5c 607
1861: Name: Louisa M Hoskins Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Hoskins Mother's Name: Mary Ann Hoskins Gender: Female Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England Civil parish: Bristol St Philip and St Jacob Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image Registration district: Clifton Sub-registration district: St Philip and Jacob ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 201 Piece: 1735 Folio: 44 Page Number: 34 Household Members: Name Age John Hoskins 22 Mary Ann Hoskins 29 Anne E Hoskins 4 Frederick Wm Hoskins 3 Louisa M Hoskins 1 George Murray 15 Walter Nutt 19
1881: Name: Mary A. Hoskins Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Hoskins Gender: Female Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England Civil parish: Bristol St Philip and Jacob Out County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: 5Thrissell St Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status:
View image Occupation: Dress Maker Registration district: Barton Regis Sub-registration district: St Philip & St Jacob ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2496 Folio: 126 Page Number: 28 Household Members: Name Age John Hoskins 48 Mary A. Hoskins 48 Annie E. Hoskins 24 Louisa M. Hoskins 21 Ada E. Hoskins 17 Willm.J. Hoskins 14 Henry Wood 22
1891: Name: Mary A Hoskins Age: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Hoskins Gender: Female Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England Civil parish: St Philip and St Jacob Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address:
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Education:
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View image Registration district: Barton Regis Sub-registration district: St Philip ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1982 Folio: 6 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age John Hoskins 58 Mary A Hoskins 57
Deaths Dec 1891 Hoskins Mary Ann 55 Barton R 6a 113
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JayB
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6 May 2012 10:55 |
Hi Cherilyn
Yes James is listed as a widower and occupation as Tailor in the 1871 census. He is living with Alfred Brown, a general dealer and his family - Wife Hannah and daughters Jane and Emma.
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Jonesey
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6 May 2012 10:55 |
Probable connection to the family Thomas James Bragg was lodging with in 1871. My guess is that Mary Ann Hoskin(s) is most likely Mary Bragg.
1871: Name: Louisa Hoskin Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England Civil parish: Highweek Town: Newton Abbot County/Island: Devon Country: England Registration district: Newton Abbot Sub-registration district: Newton Abbot ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 104 Piece: 2082 Folio: 94 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Facey 43 Louisa Facey 42 George Facey 7 Frederick Facey 2 Louisa Hoskin 12
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6 May 2012 10:53 |
Household Record 1881 British Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household
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Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Thomas FACY Head M Male 51 Pitminster, Somerset, England Gas Manager(NK) Louisa FACY Wife M Female 50 Taunton, Somerset, England George FACY Son U Male 16 Taunton, Somerset, England Telegraph Clerk Frederick FACY Son U Male 12 Newton Abbott, Devon, England Scholar
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 44 Albert St Census Place Taunton St James, Somerset, England
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JayB
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6 May 2012 10:51 |
1851 Census Record Name Louisa Bragg Age 21 Estimated Year of Birth 1830 Relationship to Head of Household Servant Occupation House Servant Address Upper High Street District Taunton, Taunton Saint Mary Magdalen Parish Saint Mary Magdalen Administrative County Somersetshire Birth Place Taunton Birth County Somerset
Marriages Dec 1854 (>99%) Bragg Louisa Taunton 5c 704 Facey Thomas Bannett Taunton 5c 704
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6 May 2012 10:48 |
The full 1841
1841 England Census about Louisa Bragg Name: Louisa Bragg Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Gender: Female Where born: Somerset, England Civil parish: St Mary Magdalen Hundred: Taunton County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Taunton Sub-registration district: Taunton St Mary Magdalen
James Bragg abt 1806 Somerset, England St Mary Magdalen, Somerset Ann Bragg abt 1807 Somerset, England St Mary Magdalen, Somerset Louisa Bragg abt 1828 Somerset, England St Mary Magdalen, Somerset Mary Bragg abt 1831 Somerset, England St Mary Magdalen, Somerset Emma Bragg abt 1834 Somerset, England St Mary Magdalen, Somerset Thomas Bragg abt 1841 Somerset, England St Mary Magdalen, Somerset
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Jonesey
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6 May 2012 10:46 |
1861:
Name: Louisa Fasey Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Thomas Fasey Gender: Female Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England Civil parish: St Mary Magdalen Town: Taunton County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image Registration district: Taunton Sub-registration district: Taunton St Mary Magdalen ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 163 Piece: 1616 Folio: 50 Page Number: 28 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Fasey 31 Louisa Fasey 32 Emma Jane Fasey 6
1871: Name: Louisa Facey Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Thomas Facey Gender: Female Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England Civil parish: Highweek Town: Newton Abbot County/Island: Devon Country: England Registration district: Newton Abbot Sub-registration district: Newton Abbot ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 104 Piece: 2082 Folio: 94 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Facey 43 Louisa Facey 42 George Facey 7 Frederick Facey 2 Louisa Hoskin 12
1881: Name: Louisa Facy Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Thomas Facy Gender: Female Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England Civil parish: Taunton St James County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address: 44 Albert St Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
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View image Registration district: Taunton Sub-registration district: Taunton St James ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2368 Folio: 23 Page Number: 40 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Facy 51 Louisa Facy 50 George Facy 16 Frederick Facy 12 Dinah Facy 40
1891: Name: Louisa Facey Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Thomas B Facey Gender: Female Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England Civil parish: Taunton St James Ecclesiastical parish: Taunton St James Town: Taunton County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address:
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Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Taunton Sub-registration district: Taunton St James ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1877 Folio: 86 Page Number: 32 Household Members: Name Age Thomas B Facey 60 Louisa Facey 60 George Facey 26 Frederick Facey 22
??? Name: Louisa Facey Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1896 Age at Death: 65 Registration district: Bridgwater Inferred County: Somerset Volume: 5c Page: 238
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Cherilyn
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6 May 2012 10:45 |
REALLY need to go now - hoardes are getting hungry! :-)
Thanks again for all your time and effort so far.
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6 May 2012 10:42 |
Possible marriage for Louisa?
Marriages Dec 1854 (>99%) Bragg Louisa Taunton 5c 704 Facey Thomas Bannett Taunton 5c 704
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Cherilyn
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6 May 2012 10:41 |
Thanks Janet - does it state if he was a widower by any chance? Who was he boarding with?
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JayB
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6 May 2012 10:39 |
1871 Census Record Name James Bragg Age 64 Estimated Year of Birth 1807 Relationship to Head of Household Lodger Occupation Address Victoria Place District Taunton, St Mary Magdalen Parish St Mary Magdalen Administrative County Somersetshire Birth Place Somerset Birth County Somerset
Edit- Listed as being a widower and occupation as Tailor
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