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BRAGG family, Somerset & Gloucestershire

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Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 May 2012 09:33

Have picked up this family again and wonder if anyone can help with my brickwalls please. This is what I have:

1851, 50 High St, Taunton, Somerset
1861, 52 Victoria St, Taunton, Somerset

1851 Census
Civil parish: Taunton St Mary Magdalen
Town: Taunton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration district: Taunton
Sub-registration district: Pitminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 4d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 50
Piece: 1922
Folio: 547
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
James Bragg 44 TAILOR
Ann Bragg 43
Mary Ann Bragg 20
Emma Bragg 16
Thomas James Bragg 9
Clara Bragg 5
Jane Bragg 1

1861 England Census
Civil parish: St Mary Magdalen
Town: Taunton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration district: Taunton
Sub-registration district: Taunton St Mary Magdalen
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 52
Piece: 1616
Folio: 20
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
James Bragg 54 TAILOR JOURNEYMAN
Ann Bragg 55
Clara Bragg 15
Jane Bragg 12

James' father may be Thomas (death of a Thomas Bragg age 84 in Dec 1866, i.e. b. c1782.)

I have no marriage date or place for James & Ann, and no idea if they had any earlier children.

Also no death for James or his wife Ann (nee COOPER), nor for any of the children except Clara (my grt grt grandmother), who died in Western Australia.

I have marriages for Mary Ann (m. John HOSKINS 1855 Taunton) & Clara (m. John KELLY 1868 Clifton, Gloucestershire - I have the cert), but none of the others.

Anyone?

EDIT: Just found Jas BRAGG & Ann COOPERs marriage at Taunton St Mary Magdalene 26/8/1826. Also his christening in 1806 to Thos & Sarah.

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 6 May 2012 09:37

???
Deaths Sep 1875
BRAGG James 69 Taunton 5c 236

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 May 2012 09:45

Thanks jonesy, could well be him.

I had been looking in Somerset but now wonder if all the family moved to Gloucestershire?

Possible for Emma? But missing one male spouse - and it is Emma's - found Matilda & Joseph Sedgley in Clifton in 1881 :(

Marriages Mar 1862 (>99%)
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Bragg Emma Clifton 6a 230
Curnick Matilda Clifton 6a 230
Sedgley Joseph Clifton 6a 230

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 6 May 2012 09:47

1871:
Name: Thomas Jas Brragg
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England
Civil parish: St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: St Philip
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 208
Piece: 2557
Folio: 48
Page Number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hoskins 38
Mary Ann Hoskins 38
Annie Eliza Hoskins 14
Frederick Wm Hoskins 13
Ada Elizabeth Hoskins 7
William John Hoskins 5
Kate Hoskins 2
Thomas Jas Brragg 28


Deaths Sep 1872
BRAGG Thomas James 28 Clifton 6a 88

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 May 2012 09:50

Ooh well done, jonesy, that is definitely them! Also adds credence to the marriage there for Emma. Any way to find out who it was to?

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 6 May 2012 09:52

Just checking possibilities

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 May 2012 10:01

???

Deaths Mar 1871 (>99%)
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Bragg Ann 65 Clifton 6a 80


Deaths Sep 1868 (>99%)
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Bragg James 58 Bristol 6a 24


I guess the 1871 census would prove or disprove that theory! :-D

Janet

Janet Report 6 May 2012 10:02

Walter Nutt 6a 230

jan

He was a shoemaker
No children on 1871 1881 or 1891 censuses

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 May 2012 10:08

Thanks, Jan -

Maybe this is why? Or is she with him?

Deaths Dec 1864 (>99%)
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Nutt Emma Clifton 6a 63

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 6 May 2012 10:09

Not sure about Walter Nutt although I haven't found anything better as yet.

1871:
Name: Emma Nutt
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Wath Nutt
Gender: Female
Where born: Taunton
Civil parish: St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: St Philip
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 245
Piece: 2558
Folio: 22
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Wath Nutt 29
Emma Nutt 28
Jane Broy 22
Edwd Rakes 15

That Emma would be about 8 years younger than Emma Bragg

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 May 2012 10:11

or...this fits agewise

Deaths Dec 1913 (>99%)
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Nutt Emma 77 Witney 3a 1068

Janet

Janet Report 6 May 2012 10:11

Emma is with him in those 3 censuses

Marriages Mar 1862 (>99%)
Nutt Walter Clifton 6a 2[4_]9

This is what I found, if you look at the image it does look like the same ref as the other details posted


Jan

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 May 2012 10:15

This looks good for them - 1881:


Name: Emma Nutt
Age: 38
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1843
Birthplace: Taunton, Gloucestershire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Marital Condition: Married
Profession/Occupation:
Address: 9 Oxford Place
Census Place: Ss Philip And Jacob (Out), Gloucestershire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
Family History Library Film: 1341601
The National Archives Reference: RG11

Piece/Folio: 2494 / 103
Page Number: 26
Household Gender Age
Spouse Walter Nutt M 38
Emma Nutt F 38

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 May 2012 10:17

That's great, thanks Jan and Jonesy, made a bit of headway here!

Must away to cook for the troops, back later (or failing that, tomorrow!)

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 6 May 2012 10:19

Here is Emma Nutt's death:

Name: Emma Nutt
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1896
Age at Death: 51
Registration district: Barton Regis
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 97

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 May 2012 10:20

Just noticed the difference in age - I took Emma's birthyear as c1835 based on her age as 16 in the 1851 Census - unless that is a transcription error? But given they are named in order she must be older than Thos Jas...darn seemed such a clear connection with the Taunton/Gloucester thing! Back to the drawing board!


Births Sep 1844 (>99%)
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Bragg Emma Taunton 10 437


Births Sep 1845 (>99%)
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Bragg Emma Mary Taunton 10 421


Births Jun 1841 (>99%)
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Bragg Thomas James Taunton 10 446

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 May 2012 10:24

Do Jas or Ann appear in the 1871, either in Taunton or Clifton please?

to check on these:


Deaths Sep 1875
BRAGG James 69 Taunton 5c 236

Deaths Mar 1871 (>99%)
Bragg Ann 65 Clifton 6a 80

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 6 May 2012 10:34

in 1841 Emma is shown as 7 years old. She is with her parents James and Ann plus sisters Louisa 13, Mary 10 and brother Thomas James aged 1 month.

1841:

Name: Emma Bragg
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Female
Where born: Somerset, England
Civil parish: St Mary Magdalen
Hundred: Taunton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

View image
Registration district: Taunton
Sub-registration district: Taunton St Mary Magdalen
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 972
Book: 5
Folio: 31
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Emma Bragg 7

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 May 2012 10:39

Ah so her age is correct, probably not the wife of Walter then.

AND there was an older sibling - Louisa! Thank you so much, jonesy!

JayB

JayB Report 6 May 2012 10:39


1871 Census Record
Name James Bragg
Age 64
Estimated Year of Birth 1807
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Occupation
Address Victoria Place
District Taunton, St Mary Magdalen
Parish St Mary Magdalen
Administrative County Somersetshire
Birth Place Somerset
Birth County Somerset

Edit- Listed as being a widower and occupation as Tailor

Janet