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Registration District = Dover, 1900 Birth in the Sub-district of Saint James in the County of Kent.

No. 144 - fourteenth June 1900, Kingsdown Ringwould, Dover R.O/0? (as when and where born) registered on 17th July 1900 (Registrar is ?? Pain)

I have the details on the birth certificate as:-

No. 144
Fourteenth June 1900, Kingsdown Ringwould Dover, and R.O/0(?)

Registered on Seventeenth July 1900

Registrar: ?? Pain (as the name)

Thank you all

That's annoying - I was hoping for an actual street address!!! :-(

Dea x

Just to see what happened to George:-
1911

STONE, George Head Married M 67 1844 Carman Barnwood Gloucester
STONE, Mary Ellen Wife Married 7 years F 37 1874 Nottingham Notts
WILDEY, Alfred Stepson M 11 1900 Chelsea Middlesex
STONE, Mary Ellen Daughter F 6 1905 Paddington Middlesex
STONE, Amy Bertha Daughter F 4 1907 Paddington Middlesex
STONE, Rose Emma Daughter F 1 1910 Paddington Middlesex

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RG number: RG14
Piece: 44
Reference: RG14PN44 RG78PN2 RD1 SD2 ED4 SN260
Registration District:Paddington
Sub District: Paddington Central
Enumeration District: 4
Parish:Paddington
Address: 40 Alfred Road Paddington W
County:London

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Marriages Mar 1897 (>99%)
xxxx Burton Mary Ellen Paddington 1a 6
Leveridge William Henry Paddington 1a 6
Vickers Ada Paddington 1a 6
xxxx Wildey Arthur Joseph Paddington 1a 6

but husband didn't die until 1909:-

Deaths Dec 1909 (>99%)
WILDEY Arthur Joseph 45 Lewisham 1d 593

..........so Mary Ellen couldn't have married George in 1904?

I think George Stone may have re-married after the death of Mary Ann Stone in 1892. Married a Jennie (but got no details) and on the 1901 census (listed earlier on this thread) Leslie (Douglas Leslie) is listed as nephew at 9 months with George and Jennie.

Could the connecion between birth parents and adoptive family of Stone, be Jennie and Alice Ann(e) Davies? Under her maiden name of Edwards, did Alice have a sibling called Jennie?

Unfortunately I have no details on Jennie.

Gillian do you have Douglas Leslie's marriage cert and if so is his father's name and occupation on it?

I do have his marriage certificate, he's listed himself as Leslie Douglas Stone, but it has the name of his adoptive father - Joshua Leopold Stone - on it, with an occupation of Fitter (21st April 1924 - No. 217).

It has a load of hand-written notes down the end of the certificate which Im going to see if I can blow up on the printer and read - I can see the name Leslie Douglas Davies on it

The handwritten notes on the marriage certificate of Douglas Leslie and Hannah Elizbeth are apparently the notes that appear in the original entry (according to the certificate wording).

Making reference to column 2 - name and surname, with a "2" over Leslie and "1" over Douglas - I think its referring to the fact that it should be the other way round, given his birth name.
Leslie Douglas Davies (although should be Douglas Leslie) is also written down the side as "3" for the surname in column 2 - this is signed by the Rector

Its all sooooo frustrating.

I dont know why, but I keep coming back to Jennie (see note below) and whether in some way she was connected to Alice Ann Davies (the birth mother).

However other than the details on this census, I cannot find any other details about Jennie.

Any other thoughts/possibilities??? you've all been so kind and helpful.

1901 England Census about Douglas Davies
Name: Douglas Davies
Age: 9 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Kingsdown, Kent, England
Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Paddington
Sub-registration district: St Mary, Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 279
Piece: 9
Folio: 142
Page Number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
George Stone 57
Jennie Stone 45
Douglas Davies 9 Months

A MASSIVE THANK YOU to everyone today who has replied to this thread and given your time. Im sorry that we didnt get all the answers, but you've all helped clarify a number of points.

I should really now spend the evening doing the work I should have been doing all day... Ooops.

Thank you again, you are all incredibly selfless in helping others.

New thread:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1298312?jump=1298312

Would really be better to keep the new request on here.

Sorry everyone, I hadnt read the rules on this. Apologies.

I am assuming that Jennie and George are married on the 1901 census - and what Im hoping is that for Douglas Davies to be listed as nephew @ 9 months, that she would be his aunt (by his birth mother).

I need to find a link between Alice Ann Davies (maiden name Edwards) and Jennie I think.

Douglas Davies (Douglas Leslie Davies) was my great-grandfather.

In the 1911 Census, Leslie (Douglas Leslie) is shown as the adopted son of Joshua and Ada - Joshua is the son? of George and his first wife Mary Ann, or the brother? of George and his wife Jennie.

Thank you, and sorry again for adding a new thread.

No problems Gillian but could you please delete the new thread before people start finding this info all over again.

Thanks,

Dea x.

P.S. - I really don't think that George ever married Jennie - I can see no death for her under that name either and as he remarried, there should have been.

I will look further and see if I can come up with anything useful.

Dea x

Confusing things firhter




Marriages Mar 1883 (>99%)
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LEWIS Jenny Newport M 11a 233 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Matthews Augustus Newport M 11a 233
STONE George Newport, M. 11a 233 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Williams Jane Newport M 11a 233

Gins I found them, ( Jenny and George that is ) and oddly enough they have a son of the same name...BUT they appear on a census think it was the 1901 , at the same time :-D

Yes - I had been looking at that Ginns but I can't see where it fits in.

I tried to follow the couple and did find a George and Jane who fitted on 1911 BUT I also found that Augustus was married to a Jane but the step children they had with them were called Lewis so maybe that Jane was really Jenny ???

Dea x

Im assuming that because Leslie (Douglas Leslie) was listed as the adopted son of Joshua Leopold and Ada Stone on the 1911 Census, that Joshua and George (from the 1901 Census) were somehow related??

So from your comments above was Jennie really Jane, or was that a different family?

I wish I had powers to ask questions to those no longer with us... I was never very good at puzzles as a child, if the piece didnt fit I gave up the whole thing ;-)

Joshua is George's son... if Albert G Stone IS the natural father of Douglas then Joshua is his uncle... the more I look at it the more I think that Alice was not married but let Douglas' father's family adopt?

Yes that is a high possibilty, but on Douglas Leslie's birth certificate though, his father is listed as Albert George Davies - no Stone mentioned - would/could that be an oversight?

I got nowhere 2+ years ago trying to search on Albert George Davies and Alice Ann Davies (formerly Edwards)

You just need to be patient for a little while longer - there are several of us working on this.

We may come up with nothing but you never know.

Dea Xxx