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Lisa
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20 Apr 2012 20:08 |
Hi all im looking for any information on a daniel william jude born 1892 in cambs.
his father was william jude born 1859 he had siblings named john, mary, pamela, joseph,sarah,harriet,elizabeth and caroline.
thanks for looking
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MarieCeleste
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20 Apr 2012 20:14 |
Hello Lisa, welcome to the boards.
You already know a bit about him, so can you be a bit more specific about the type of information you're hoping to find.
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Carol
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20 Apr 2012 20:16 |
JUDE, Daniel Head Married M 42 1859 Labourer Bricklayers BarringtonCambridgeshire VIEW JUDE, Mary Wife Married F 46 1855 Charwoman Cambridge VIEW MEAD, Margaret Niece Single F 15 1886 Shirt Factory HackneyLondon VIEW MEAD, May Niece Single F 12 1889 HackneyLondon VIEW MEAD, Ellen Niece Single F 9 1892 StratfordEssex VIEW JUDE, Daniel Son Single M 8 1893 ClaptonLondon VIEW Piece:1624 Folio: 124 Page:36 Registration District:West Ham Civil Parish:Walthamstow Municipal Borough: Address:40, Lennox Road, Walthamstow County:Essex
1901 census
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Chris Ho :)
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20 Apr 2012 20:18 |
Births Dec 1892 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------- Jude Daniel William Hackney 1b 441
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MarieCeleste
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20 Apr 2012 20:25 |
British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 Name: Daniel William Jude Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Age at enlistment: 20 Birth Parish: Hackney Birth County: Middlesex Document Year: 1912 Regimental Number: 70997 Regiment Name: Royal Horse and Royal Field Artillery Number of images: 4
He had first enlisted in 1910.
On his medical he was 5' 8" tall, weighed 139lb and his chest was 37". He had a fresh complexion, hazel eyes and brown hair. It's noted "soldier left forearm" so guess that was a tattoo.
He got into bother quite a lot and was eventually discharged for misconduct on 17 March 1914.
EDIT: Have just noticed the birthplace on this is Hackney, whereas Lisa says he was born Cambs.
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Carol
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20 Apr 2012 20:37 |
Death
Daniel W Jude Reg Dist - Edmondton, Middlex 1944 1 Q aged 51 Ref 3A 1066
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MarieCeleste
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20 Apr 2012 20:41 |
His baptism:
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Daniel William Jude Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1895 Baptism Date: 13 Nov 1895 Father's Name: Daniel Jude < Labourer Mother's Name: Mary Jude Parish or Poor Law Union: Clapton Park All Saints Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Registers
Their address was 111 Pedro Street.
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MarieCeleste
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20 Apr 2012 20:44 |
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1847-1965
Name: Daniel William Jude Electoral Year: 1935 Parliamentary Division: Hackney County or Borough: Hackney
Living at 34 Mayfield Road with Rose.
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MarieCeleste
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20 Apr 2012 20:46 |
Neither of these marriages fit with a "Rose" unless the second one was Eva Rose.
England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 Name: Daniel W Jude Spouse: Ellen Hooper Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1917 Registration district: Hackney Inferred County: Middlesex Volume Number: 1b Page Number: 964
England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 Name: Daniel W Jude Spouse: Eva R Jarvis Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1938 Registration district: Edmonton Inferred County: Middlesex Volume Number: 3a Page Number: 2812
Can't be 100% certain these are your chap - you'd need to get copies of certificates to check.
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PricklyHolly
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20 Apr 2012 21:00 |
1861 England Census about Pamela Jude Name: Pamela Jude Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Jude Mother's Name: Ann Jude Gender: Female Where born: Barrington, Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: Barrington County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Royston Sub-registration district: Melbourn ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 111 Piece: 814 Folio: 22 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age William Jude 43 Ann Jude 41 John Jude 17 Mary J Jude 15 Pamela Jude 12 Joseph Jude 10 Sarah A Jude 7 Harriet Jude 4 Daniel Jude 2 >>> Barrington Cambridgeshire
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20 Apr 2012 21:04 |
Where does "Rose" fit in ?
Where did you get Daniel's father as being William ?
He is named as Daniel on the census. Was he William Daniel ?
EDIT :
Was it not in fact Daniel's grandfather who was William ?
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Chris Ho :)
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20 Apr 2012 21:12 |
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: Daniel Jude (Bachelor) Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Spouse Name: Mary Green (Widow) Spouse Age: 38 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 26 Jul 1891 Parish: Bethnal Green St James the Great Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: William Jude (Deceased) Spouse Father Name: William Perry (Deceased) Register Type: Parish Register Chris :)
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PricklyHolly
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20 Apr 2012 21:23 |
Household Record 1881 British Census Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability William JUDE Head M Male 64 Barrington, Cambridge, England Ag Lab Ann JUDE Wife M Female 61 Barton, Cambridge, England Daniel JUDE Son U Male 22 Barrington, Cambridge, England Coprolite Lab
Dwelling High St Census Place Barrington, Cambridge, England
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20 Apr 2012 21:59 |
Lisa, if you check Search Trees at top of page, quite a few other Members have Daniel born 1859 in their Tree...
Baptism taken from All Saints Church Barrington, Cambs.
1859 Dec. 4th Jude Daniel of William and Ann otp lab.
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MarieCeleste
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21 Apr 2012 12:45 |
Mike - you ask where Rose fits in - she's on the ER I posted.
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21 Apr 2012 13:22 |
I have PMd Lisa to explain how to find her way back to this thread.
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Lisa
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21 Apr 2012 16:43 |
omg lol im so new to this.. thanks everyone for info its a bit complicated but my mums dad turned out to have another family before her and we believe he was a bigamist. he died in 1944 i have all details of his household when he was younger but no details of him as an adult and what children he had before he married my mums mum. i know he had at least one son because he turned up at my nans door after his dad died asking who my nan was. it would be nice for my mum to somehow get a pic of what he looked like as she was 18 months old when he died and we have no pics. also whether she had any half siblings,
but thanks for all your help greatly appreciated
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MarieCeleste
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21 Apr 2012 18:17 |
Lisa, you say in the opening post that he was born in Cambs. However, all the records found relate to a London birth. Could it be that his father was from Cambs?
Can you confirm if either (or both) of those marriage records I posted above are a possibility? If they're not, are you able to say who your mum's mum was (if it's not breaching privacy)?
If we're sure of the relationships then we can then check for possible children.
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MarieCeleste
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21 Apr 2012 18:39 |
There was quite a scandal in 1895 and many papers reported it. Here is one such article:
THE HAMPSHIRE TELEGRAPH - Saturday 10 August 1895
SHAM WIDOWS BIGAMY - EXTRAORDINARY STORY Mary Green, 42, charwoman, of Roseneath Terrace, Clapton, on Tuesday surrendered to her bail at North London Police court to answer a charge of bigamy. It was alleged that she went through a form of marriage with Daniel Jude at the Red Church, Bethnal Green, in June 1891, her husband George Green, being then and now alive. Daniel Jude declared that he never knew of the existence of George Green until last Monday week. When he first met the prisoner she was walking through Stratford in "widows weeds" and he thought she was a widow. The prisoner admitted wearing the clothing of a widow, and made an extraordinary statement in explanation. She said that 24 years ago she was married to George Green, and three years after that she left him, and for 21 years he had not contributed one penny to the support of herself or her blind child. For 17 years after that she lived as the wife of a James Mead, and bore him five children. Mead died, and it was for him she wore widows clothes. In 1891 she accidentally met Mr Jude and a woman with whom he had lived for nine years; and two weeks after that Jude came to her and asked her to take him in as a lodger. She did so, and he asked her to marry him to "choke off" the woman with whom he had been living. She told him she could not do so, but would live with him. But he insisted on getting married - Jude denied this. The prisoner was committed for trial, and admitted to bail. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Other reports state she was sentenced to two days imprisonment. Also, that she'd been handed into police by Daniel Jude whilst he was intoxicated. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Note the 1901 census above - particularly Mary's occupation and the children's surname.
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21 Apr 2012 18:53 |
Wow, MC, that's a good find!...
There is another Member in Search Trees (top of page) with a Daniel William Jude 1892.
Chris :)
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