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Gail
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30 Mar 2012 18:20 |
I have been able to trace my ancestors to 1844 and can't seem to find their birth records : I have the year of birth for both ancestors but neither comes up. When I put just a basic surname for the years in question ie: 1822 and 1924 the system tells me it can find no matches. I have since tried it with lots of different surnames but it still can't find even one name: Anyone know why?
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Gwyn in Kent
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30 Mar 2012 18:23 |
Gail If you would like to post some details of names and area of birth, I'm sure people will do their best to help.
Where are you searching? Civil registration did not start in UK until 1837 and not everyone bothered to register births at first, but there may be parish registers available
Gwyn
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Derek
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30 Mar 2012 18:35 |
This Board is all about helping other people with limited or no experience or resources.....many of us have that experience, and between us a massive access to all sorts of records.........so all you have to do, as Gwyn says,is post some names approximate dates and areas.......you will be pleasantly surprised!!
Derek.
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30 Mar 2012 18:52 |
You may also have better luck trying to find births, marriages and deaths from 1837 to about the mid 1950s here
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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Gail
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30 Mar 2012 21:25 |
Thank you everyone: I'm trying to find a birth certificate for Reubin Poller born 1824 in Warwickshire; maybe I'm being too ambitious - I have tracked him to be my great great great great grandfather although having trouble with the spelling of Reubin: this chap Reubin shows up as Ruben and Reuben: and within a ten year period I have found two marriages in Birmingham, both to a Mary but ten years apart; after all this, I'm probably tracking the wrong guy
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alviegal
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30 Mar 2012 21:30 |
Is this him perhaps? From https://www.familysearch.org
name: Reuben Poller gender: Male baptism/christening date: 31 Aug 1824 baptism/christening place: SAINT MARTIN,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND birth date: 10 Nov 1823 father's name: Christopher Poller mother's name: Elizabeth indexing project (batch) number: C01072-3 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 501834, 501835, 501836, 502177, 502178
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Derek
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30 Mar 2012 21:31 |
Hi Gail.............REUBEN POLLER born 10.11.1823..baptised \st Martins Birmingham 31.08.1824 son of Christopher and Elizabeth......
Derek.
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30 Mar 2012 21:31 |
Name: Reuben Poller Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 31 Aug 1824 Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT MARTIN,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND Birth Date: 10 Nov 1823 Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Christopher Poller Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Elizabeth Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01072-3 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 501834, 501835, 501836, 502177, 502178 Reference Number:
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alviegal
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30 Mar 2012 21:33 |
Is this his marriage?
groom's name: Reuben Poller bride's name: Mary Ann Pittaway marriage date: 13 Nov 1855 marriage place: Saint Martin,Birmingham,Warwick,England indexing project (batch) number: M01072-4 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 0919783-0919785, 0919786-0919788, 0919789-0919791
and a possible other marriage.
groom's name: Reubin Poller bride's name: Mary Allen marriage date: 28 Apr 1844 marriage place: Aston Juxta Birmingham,Warwick,England indexing project (batch) number: M01168-4 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 0919797-799, 0919800, 0918845-46
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Catherine
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30 Mar 2012 21:34 |
Possible siblings?
Birth/Christening, 1804 - 1844, England, British Isles Father: Christopher Poller, Mother: Elizabeth Exact Spelling: Off [refine search] [Print] Prepare selected records for download
International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 19 Find more British records by searching on the updated FamilySearch site. Click here... Select records to download - (50 maximum) 1. SARAH POLLER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 02 JAN 1809 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England 2. SARAH POLLER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 26 JUN 1815 3. SARAH POLLER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 01 JAN 1816 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England 4. ESTHER POLLER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 17 JAN 1812 5. ESTHER POLLER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 09 FEB 1812 Cherry Street Wesleyan Methodist, Birmingham, Warwick, England 6. ESTHER POLLER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 07 JAN 1812 7. ESTHER POLLER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 11 JUN 1813 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England 8. PHEBE POLLER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 21 NOV 1813 9. PHEBE POLLER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 11 APR 1814 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England 10. MARY ANN POLLER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 21 JAN 1821 11. MARY ANN POLLER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 24 APR 1821 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England Death: 28 MAY 1822 12. CHRISTOPHER POLLER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 14 MAR 1810 13. CHRISTOPHER POLLER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 11 JUN 1813 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England 14. THOMAS POLLER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 08 DEC 1806 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England 15. SUSANNA POLLER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 11 NOV 1825 16. SUSANNA POLLER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 14 MAR 1826 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England Death: 12 MAR 1827 17. REUBEN POLLER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 10 NOV 1823 18. REUBEN POLLER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 31 AUG 1824 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England 19. Elizabeth Poller - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 23 MAR 1818 St Martin'S, Birmingham, Warwick, England
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30 Mar 2012 21:36 |
Name: Mary Poller Gender: Female Burial Date: 04 Mar 1852 Burial Place: St. Bartholomew, Birmingham, Warwick, England Death Date: Death Place: Age: Birth Date: Birthplace: Occupation: Race: Marital Status: Spouse's Name: Father's Name: Father's Birthplace: Mother's Name: Mother's Birthplace: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03823-3 System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 588398 Reference Number: 145
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Derek
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30 Mar 2012 21:38 |
REUBEN POLLER married MARY ALLEN in Birmingham 28.04.1844
1851 Census says she was from Uttoxeter 1871 Census says she was from Loughborough
(Alviegal..they already had children by 1851... sorry)
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alviegal
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30 Mar 2012 21:42 |
Reuben with Mary Allen.
1851
POLLER, Reuben Head Married M 27 1824 Brass Founder Birmingham VIEW POLLER, Mary Wife Married F 29 1822 Uttoxeter Staffordshire VIEW POLLER, Christopher Son M 6 1845 Scholar Birmingham VIEW POLLER, Emily Daughter F 3 1848 Scholar Birmingham VIEW Piece: 2061 Folio: 785 Page: 17 Registration District: Aston Civil Parish: Aston Near Birmingham Municipal Borough: Birmingham Address: Saltley Road, Aston Near Birmingham, Birmingham County: Warwickshire
Children
Christopher Frederick Poller
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 11 Mar 1845 christening: 21 Jul 1845 SAINT MARTIN,?BIRMINGHAM,?WARWICK,?ENGLAND parents: Ruben Poller,? Mary Emily Poller
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 25 Mar 1848 christening: 24 Jul 1848 SAINT MARTIN,?BIRMINGHAM,?WARWICK,?ENGLAND parents: Ruben Poller,? Mary Mary Elizabeth Poller
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 20 May 1846 christening: 31 Aug 1846 SAINT MARTIN,?BIRMINGHAM,?WARWICK,?ENGLAND parents: Reubin Poller,? Mary
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Dea
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31 Mar 2012 08:47 |
Could this be the death of the 1st Mary?
Deaths Mar 1852 Poller Mary Aston 6d 163
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31 Mar 2012 08:55 |
Gail
As others have so rightly said, there wasn't such a document as a birth certificate until the introduction of Civil Registration in July 1837.
Also, as there weren't any penalties for not registering until 1875, a lot of births went unrecorded between 1837 and that year.
Many people felt that baptism was more important, and simply ignored the concept of civil registration.
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Derek
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31 Mar 2012 22:18 |
Would be nice if Gail returned to her Thread and respond to the work we have done!
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jax
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31 Mar 2012 22:43 |
Maybe she has gone out for the day Derek ? Somepeople do that :-)
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alviegal
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7 Apr 2012 20:37 |
Got a pm from Gail.
You've hit where I'm stuck exactly! Those are the two which are getting me confused. What I think I know is that Reuben and Mary had a son Christopher Frederick and then I keep getting lost. My great grandmother was Esther Poller, born in Warwickshire, later married and became Taylor. My main problem is I have absolutely no definate records other than a death record of Esther, so I have been trying to trace that line back for ages. I have loads saved to favourites and I'm getting in a spin.
Thank you for your help!
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alviegal
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7 Apr 2012 21:12 |
Gail, is your Esther the one born in 1812, daughter of Christopher and Elizabeth, that Catherine has found above? If not, could you tell us a bit more about her please?
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Gail
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10 Apr 2012 19:01 |
Esther Poller married either a Charles or William Taylor and had three daughters, one my nan Lilian May Taylor (now dead), Dorothy Taylor (died last year) and Edna who is still alive. Esther died in 1969 and I found a death record matching that. The death record said she was born 4 November 1882 although I have learnt through this that no dates are accurate, as my nan's death record stated her date of birth as the wrong one - that I think was down to my aunty who registered the death and probably put the wrong date on. She died in Staffordshire although the village she lived in Kinver usually hold the records at Bilston, however, I cannot find Bilston listed in any record, so the record I hold for her is registered in Dudley, which is just down the road from Kinver so it may well be the right one.
What I am finding really difficult is finding so many records of people living and dying in the same area around the same time with the same names. My favourites collection is really big. What I'm going to do next weekend is get a big A3 piece of paper and physically draw the tree and print out all the records I have found which I think might be that person. If I can see it all in front of me instead of spending hours re-looking at this and that on the computer, I might be able to make head or tail of it, or at least see some sense to what I'm looking at.
None of my family can give me any details which is wholly frustrating. I can't even trace my grandfather, other than his death record, so I'm coming to a full stop on that too.
My starting point was that I know how old I was when grandad died, my nan and my great grandmother, Esther, and where they died - not much to go on eh? :-S
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