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IfSixWasNine

IfSixWasNine Report 6 Jan 2012 16:56

richard monkhouse born 20 nov 1861 church walk gateshead married elizabeth maddison at st cuthburts gateshead july 13th 1879 elizabeths age is given as 21 and her father joshua maddison occupation appears to be marinner .the witnesses was john paterson and emily paterson . I have searched all over for any clues as to where elizabeth or joshua her father came from to no avail . After elizabeth got married to richard she is on the census 1881 1891 1901 1911 and consistantly gives her birth place as north sheilds .i would really like to know more about elizabeths family and would appreciate any ideas suggestions that anyone can give thankyou .....j

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 6 Jan 2012 17:02

North Shields is in Northumberland, South Shields in Durham.

IfSixWasNine

IfSixWasNine Report 6 Jan 2012 17:09

yes i agree but still cant find any clues on census margee :-D

Gee

Gee Report 6 Jan 2012 17:36

Dads name does look like Joseph and not Joshua but Im a bit suspicious as his boy is called Joshua.....maybe a mistake on the census?

Also dad is a miner not mariner???


1861 England Census
about Elizabeth Maddison
Name: Elizabeth Maddison
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Maddison
Mother's name: Mary A Maddison
Gender: Female
Where born: Stanhope, Durham, England

Civil parish: Stanhope
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Weardale
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76
Piece: 3723
Folio: 84
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Maddison 28
Mary A Maddison 26
Joshua Maddison 4
Elizabeth Maddison 2
Margaret Maddison 11 MO


Do you think it might be worth checking dads name and occupation on the marriage certificate....just in case, they can be very hard to read, well for anyway ;-)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Jan 2012 17:38

Have you eliminated this lady, sorry English geography not my strong point.

1871

Name: Elizabeth Maddison
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Barnard Castle, Durham, England
Civil parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Darlington
Sub-registration district: Darlington
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Household schedule number: 69
Piece: 4884
Folio: 47
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Maddison 50 Unmarried, Lodging house keeper
Anne Maddison 39 Visitor
Alfred Maddison 21 Nephew
Anne Maddison 14 Niece
Elizabeth Maddison 13 Niece
Mary H Maddison 10 Niece
George S Wilson 18
Alfred O Walker 36

IfSixWasNine

IfSixWasNine Report 6 Jan 2012 17:44

gins you may be right on marriage cert hardest i have ever deciphered could be miner not mariner but marriage cert is only clues i had to work on . i thanks for your input root gatherer . it still looks like joshua to me but who knows could be joseph had maybe 20 odd people looking ar cert and no wiser . jim

Gee

Gee Report 6 Jan 2012 17:46

Looking for clues!


71 England Census
about Elizabeth Maddison
Name: Elizabeth Maddison
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Maddison
Mother's name: Mary A Maddison
Gender: Female
Where born: Stanhope, Durham, England
Civil parish: Stanhope
Ecclesiastical parish: Heathery Cleugh
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Weardale
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 56
Piece: 4949
Folio: 9
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Maddison 38
Mary A Maddison 36
Joshua Maddison 14
Elizabeth Maddison 12
George W Maddison 9
Mary H Maddison 7
Jane Maddison 5
Joseph Maddison 3
Anne Maddison 4 Months


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Jan 2012 17:47

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Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Mary Ann MADDISON Head W Female 46 Stanhope, Durham, England Farm Hind (Ag Lab)
Joshua MADDISON Son U Male 24 Stanhope, Durham, England Shepherd
Annie MADDISON Daur Female 10 Stanhope, Durham, England Scholar
Eliza MADDISON Daur Female 7 Stanhope, Durham, England Scholar

Source Information:
Dwelling High Ling Riggs
Census Place Stanhope, Durham, England

IfSixWasNine

IfSixWasNine Report 6 Jan 2012 17:47

I should have mentioned that elizabeths address on wedding cert appears to say bearham ?very hard to decipher........j

Gee

Gee Report 6 Jan 2012 18:12

The censuses that I posted have the address as something like: High Ling Riggs

......but its just a guess as its hard to read.as per!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Jan 2012 18:20

On the 1881 they both appear to be using a middle initial, in case that helps:

MONKHOUSE, Richard T Head Married M 19 1862 Blacksmith Gateshead Durham
MONKHOUSE, Elizabeth A Wife Married F 21 1860 North Shields Northumberland
MONKHOUSE, George William Son Single M 1 1880 Gateshead Durham
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Registration District: Gateshead
Civil Parish: Gateshead

Address: 75, Cooper Street, Gateshead County: Durham

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Jan 2012 18:23

Hmmm!

Did he perhaps prefer to go by the name of Joseph.........but in fact his real name was Joshua??

??
Deaths Mar 1874 (>99%)
Maddison Joshua 42 Weardale 10a 215


Joseph was in the registration district of Weardale in the 1871 census!

IfSixWasNine

IfSixWasNine Report 6 Jan 2012 18:26

Well some good clues gins,, root gatherer prickly holly more and more convinced its joshua maddison on marriage cert but my father used a different christian name all his life so who knows ? ........jim

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Jan 2012 18:28

Ahhh, but just found this one though...........

??
Deaths Dec 1876 (>99%)
Maddison Joseph 44 Weardale 10a 137

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 6 Jan 2012 18:29

Says on the 1871 that Gins put up that Joshua was a Lead Miner and Farmer of 4 acres.

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 6 Jan 2012 18:29

found this....

Baptisms, Weardale District - Record Number: 656854.0
Location: Wolsingham
Church: Wesleyan Methodist Circuit
Denomination: Methodist
21 Nov 1858 Elizabeth Maddison, of Ling Riggs, born 10 Aug 1858, daughter of Joseph Maddison & Mary Ann Maddison

IfSixWasNine

IfSixWasNine Report 6 Jan 2012 18:31

pricklyholly that would seem a reasonable bet over the death in weardale and explains why i couldnt track him on census ......jim

IfSixWasNine

IfSixWasNine Report 6 Jan 2012 18:34

Mariecelestie the richard t monkhouse the t is for thomas on elizabeth a only on 1881 no other puzzled me that and so many maddisons again thanks for help ..........jim

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 6 Jan 2012 18:37

I wonder??????????????

Joseph Maddison Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: Mary Jane Williams Family
Marriage: 20 OCT 1861 Wolsingham, Durham, England


Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

Gee

Gee Report 6 Jan 2012 18:41

And there is this, but she didnt marry with a middle name?


Births Mar 1857
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Maddison Elizabeth Ann Weardale 10a 187