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ADA MARGARET BARBARA HOLMES b 1865 Burrows Lancs

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Margaret

Margaret Report 23 Oct 2011 11:13

Hi

I wonder if anyone can find more about this lady than I have.

Ada Margaret Barbara Holmes born 1865 Burrows Lancashire to Henry Tuke Holmes and Mary Holmes.

The 3 infos I can find come with a variety of names but I know they are the right ones.

BIRTH: Ada Margaret Holme
1871: Ada B M Holmes living with parents in Wacton Norfolk
1891: Barbara Holmes staying with her Mothers sister, Annie Fowler, in Ecclesfield

That's all I can find. I would be grateful for any help.

Many thanks

Margaret


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 23 Oct 2011 11:54

I see she is not with her Brother and widowed Father in 1881....

1881 England Census
about Robert Scott Holmes
Name: Robert Scott Holmes
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry T. Holmes
Gender: Male
Where born: Wadsley, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Wacton
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address: Stratton Road Wacton House
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Depwade
Sub-registration district: Stratton
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1969
Folio: 63
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry T. Holmes 52
Robert Scott Holmes 12
Francis Davenport 21
Mary Straiger 39
Elizabeth Sutton 19
Amander Moore 17
Ann Smith 14


Mary

Mary Report 23 Oct 2011 11:59

Do you have info on her dad Captain and Honory Major henry Tukes Holmes retired Oct 1881.

He lived at Wacton House Norfolk.

Maryb

Margaret

Margaret Report 23 Oct 2011 12:16

Hi

Yes I have all the details re him and her mother it's just her that seems to have dropped out of sight.
Margaret

Andrew

Andrew Report 23 Oct 2011 12:18

Possible

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1899 (>99%)
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Burke John Fitz Gerald Kendal 10b 1283
Holme Ada Margaret Kendal 10b 1283


1901

1901 England Census
about Ada Margaret Barke Name: Ada Margaret Barke
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Milthorpe, Westmorland, England

Civil parish: Glossop
Ecclesiastical parish: Hadfield St Andrew
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Glossop
Sub-registration district: Glossop
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76
Piece: 3276
Folio: 74
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Platt 49
Emma Platt 53
Evelyn G Platt 26
John F Barke 43 Major R A M C born Ireland
>>>>Ada Margaret Barke 36 (Burke on image)
Mary Ann Ball 60
Betty Harrop 67
Harriet Jones 70
Betsy Powell 28
Caroline Allen 26
Sarah J Brittery 22

1911 Index only

Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page
HOUSEHOLD BURKE JOHN FITZ GERALD M 1858 53 Falmouth Cornwall
HOUSEHOLD BURKE JOHN HOLME FITZ GERALD M 1902 9 Falmouth Cornwall
HOUSEHOLD BURKE ADA MARGARET F 1865 46 Falmouth Cornwall

Andy


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Oct 2011 12:23

BURKE, John Fitz-gerald Head Married 11 years M 53 1858 Major Raml R P Enin Ireland
BURKE, Ada Margaret Wife Married 11 years F 46 1865 (no birthplace given)
BURKE, John Holme Fitz-gerald Son M 9 1902 Milnthorpe Westmorland
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Registration District: Falmouth
Sub District: Falmouth
Enumeration District: 5
Parish: Falmouth

Address: 4 Florence Place County: Cornwall

** No other children born

Margaret

Margaret Report 23 Oct 2011 12:24

Hi Andy

That sounds as if it could be her especially as the son has been given her maiden name as his middle name.
Margaret

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Oct 2011 12:24

wonder if she was the informant
Name: HOLMES, Henry Tuke
Registration District: Blean
County: Kent
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 72
Volume No: 2A
Page No: 554

patchem

patchem Report 23 Oct 2011 12:25

Just looked up Burrows for information as to where she was born
BURROW-WITH-BURROW, a township in Tunstall parish, Lancashire;

Andrew

Andrew Report 23 Oct 2011 12:27

1881, boarder at school

1881 England Census
about Ada Margaret Holme Name: Ada Margaret Holme
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Milnthorpe, Westmorland, England

Civil parish: Claughton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address: 17 Palm Grove
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Tranmere
ED, institution, or vessel: 24a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3588
Folio: 85
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age

Ada Margaret Holme 16

Other names removed


Andy

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Oct 2011 12:30

maybe
Name: BURKE, Ada M

Registration District: Pembroke

County: Pembrokeshire

Year of Registration: 1945

Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun

Age at death: 80

Volume No: 11A

Page No: 1059

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 23 Oct 2011 12:31

On the 1891 census, it states born.....Burrows Westmorland.

Looking good!!

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Oct 2011 12:32

her brother
Civil Registration event: Death

Name: HOLMES, Robert S
Registration District: Norwich
County: Norfolk
Year of Registration: 1930
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 61
Volume No: 4B
Page No: 164

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 23 Oct 2011 12:34

Could this be her? I don't have full access to the 1901 census, but she is in London under the name Barbara A M Barry and her birth county is Westmorland.


Marriages Dec 1898 (>99%)
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>>>Barry John Shafto Ecclesall B. 9c 551
>>>Holmes Adelaide Mary B Ecclesall B 9c 551
Lane George William Ecclesall B. 9c 551
White Agnes Annie Ecclesall B. 9c 551


View Record Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birthplace Relation Residence View Image
View Record
Barbara A M Barry John S abt 1864 Westmorland, England relation city, London

Margaret

Margaret Report 23 Oct 2011 12:34

Hi

Just looked up a marriage for them found in Kendal 1899 added it to my tree, up popped another persons tree with them on but totally different family. of course the marriage reg. has her as Holme not Holmes. Perhaps the other tree is wrong but there are loads of family going back generations.

Magaret

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 23 Oct 2011 12:36

1911 census - household transcription
Person: HOLMES, Robert Scott
Address: 28 Neville St Norwich


HOLMES, Robert Scott Head M 42 1869 Private Means Wadsley Yorkshire VIEW
HOLMES, Ellen Scott Wife Married
18 years F 39 1872 Totting Surrey VIEW
HOLMES, Henry Favil Scott Son Single M 17 1894 Motor Engineer Wacton Norfolk VIEW
HOLMES, Cecily Mary Scott Daughter Single F 15 1896 Typeist Student Wacton Norfolk VIEW
HOLMES, Joyce Maud Scott Daughter Single F 14 1897 Student Private Wacton Norfolk VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
11318 Reference:
RG14PN11318 RG78PN614 RD225 SD2 ED29 SN179

Registration District:
Norwich Sub District:
West Wymer Enumeration District:
29 Parish:
Norwich

Address:
28 Neville St Norwich County:
Norfolk
(3 children born and living)

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 23 Oct 2011 12:40

Yes!! she is the Barbara A M Barry on the 1901 census.....


Adelaide Mary Barbara Holmes
England Marriages, 1538–1973
birth: 1864
marriage: 08 Nov 1898 St. Thomas,? Crookes,? Sheffield,? England
parents: Henry Luke Holmes
spouse: John Shafts Barry


groom's name: John Shafts Barry
groom's birth date: 1861
groom's age: 37
bride's name: Adelaide Mary Barbara Holmes
bride's birth date: 1864
bride's age: 34
marriage date: 08 Nov 1898
marriage place: St. Thomas, Crookes, Sheffield, England
groom's father's name: Thomas Posgrove Barry
bride's father's name: Henry Luke Holmes
indexing project (batch) number: I03076-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1938088

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 23 Oct 2011 12:42

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941
about John Fitzgerald Burke Name: John Fitzgerald Burke
Probate Date: 24 Feb 1921
Death Date: 23 Jan 1921
Death Place: Pembrokeshire, Wales
Registry: London

Original reads:
BURKE, John Fitzgerald of 2 Glendower Tenby Pembrokeshire died 23 January 1921. Administration London 24 February to Ada Margaret Burke, widow. Effects 338 pounds 3 shillings 6 pence.

Margaret

Margaret Report 23 Oct 2011 12:43

Hi Prickly Holly,

Thanks I do have this part of the family and also know what happened to the first 2 children but again can find no record of what happened to Joyce Maud Scott Holmes the youngest one. Can you help?

Thanks

margaret

Mary

Mary Report 23 Oct 2011 12:44

The Ada Margaret Holme on 1881 census at a school in Cheshre,
there is also a Caroline Holme age 12 born Milnthorpe.
1871 Ada Margaret and Caroline at home with parents John and Elizabeth both born Milnthorpe Westmorland.

Maryb