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Elaine
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4 Aug 2011 16:53 |
My grandafter was born in 1900 in West Pelton.His name was Joseph Meadows.His parents were William and Mary. He had numerous brothers and sisters with names like Martha, Esther, Donald-all older than him. They are all therein 1901 census. There seems to be no recordof any of them in the 1911 census, anywhere. I know at some point - not sure when-his father (a miner) died. Have tried searching under mother's maiden name (McCabe) and the surname of her second husband (White) but can't find them.
Any ideas anyone?
Elaine
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4 Aug 2011 17:02 |
1901 just for reference:
Name: Joseph Meadows Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900 Relation: Son Father's name: William Meadows Mother's name: Mary Meadows Gender: Male Where born: West Pelton, Durham, England Civil parish: Pelton Ecclesiastical parish: West Pelton St Paul Town: Middle Hold County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
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View image Registration district: Chester Le Street Sub-registration district: Chester le Street ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 260 Piece: 4699 Folio: 194 Page Number: 45 Household Members: Name Age William Meadows 39 born Wigan, Lancashire Mary Meadows 31 born Newcastle, Northumberland John W Meadows 9 Esther Meadows 7 Mary Meadows 5 Florrie Meadows 3 Joseph Meadows 1 Donald Meadows 7 Months Jennie McCabe 16
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brummiejan
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4 Aug 2011 17:11 |
Is this her marriage?
Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%) CROSSMAN Ernest Basford 7b 395 MEADOWS Elizabeth Stanion Basford 7b 395 MORRELL Mable Basford 7b 395 WHITE Thomas Basford 7b 39
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brummiejan
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4 Aug 2011 17:13 |
Possibly Mary and Esther??
WESTCOTT, Henry Moore Head M 38 1873 Master Mariner Durham Sunderland VIEW WESTCOTT, Isabella Wife Married 9 years F 34 1877 Durham Wallsend VIEW WESTCOTT, Henry Moore Son M 8 1903 At School Durham Sunderland VIEW WESTCOTT, William Stanley Son M 1 1910 Durham Sunderland VIEW WHITE, Esther Servant Single F 16 1895 Domestic Servant Durham Craghead VIEW WHITE, Mary Servant Single F 14 1897 Domestic Servant West Pelton Durham VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 30147 Reference: RG14PN30147 RG78PN1740 RD555 SD1 ED4 SN296 Registration District: Sunderland Sub District: Sunderland West Enumeration District: 4 Parish: Sunderland Address: 9 Azalea Avenue Sunderland County: Durham
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4 Aug 2011 17:30 |
:-S
Is this the marriage of William ?
Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambles Robert Durham 10a 584 Lothian Jane Durham 10a 584 McCabe Bridget Mary Durham 10a 584 Meadows William Durham 10a 584
Do you have the 1909 marriage cert ?
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Elaine
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4 Aug 2011 17:38 |
Hi
Thanks Jonesy - I have that one. It's the 1911 one I can't find.They just seem to disappear. They stayed in the area because my gradad married my gran in 1921 and he lived in West Pelton then.
Yes that is the 1891 marriage certificate of William and Bridget Mary - known as Mary and I have it thanks.
Kind regards
Elaine
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GlitterBaby
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4 Aug 2011 17:47 |
Well still confused
If she is Bridget Mary, known as Mary,then why did she marry as Elizabeth
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tempest
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4 Aug 2011 17:54 |
is this her second marriage please?
BMD Search result details Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: MEADOWS, Bridget Mary Registration District: Sunderland County: Durham Year of Registration: 1906 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Volume No: 10A Page No: 1113
MarriageFinderâ„¢: Bridget Mary Meadows married one of the following people
ROBSON, Edward Errington WHITE, John MURPHY, Mary Jane
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Elaine
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4 Aug 2011 17:56 |
The info you sent about the marriage in Durhamin 1891 has her as Bridget Mary and him as William. I haven't mentioned an Elizabeth!!!!
Although Bridget Mary is on her marriage certificate, she was always known as Mary and records herself as Maryon the 1891 and 1901 census. I can't fin her birth either - she records herself on the 1891 and 1901 census as having been born in Newcatsle.I can only find two that would be right in Newcatsle and neither feels right in terms of family names . In the 1901 census her sister is living with her -Jennie McCabe aged 16.Can find no trace of her before 1901. Jennie is recorded as having been born in Ushaw Moor Durham about 1885 but can find no trace in 1891 census.
The McCabes are one of my sticking points in my family research!!! Kind regards
Elaine
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Elaine
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4 Aug 2011 18:01 |
Hi Tempest
It's a possibility thanks. However, he was known as Jim - but worth following up.
I ahevn't been ableto find her husband William'sdeath record to get a date so it's hard to know when she might have re-married. She was apparently a bit of a character - not in the nicest sense! I have a photo of her looking exactly like the granny in the Giles cartoons!
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Elaine
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Elaine
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4 Aug 2011 18:03 |
Hi Brummijan
Thanks but the dates are out by a good 10 years.
Elaine
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GlitterBaby
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4 Aug 2011 18:07 |
I queried the name of Elizabeth becuase of the 1909 marriage posted but I now see that Tempest has found a marriage in 1906
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Elaine
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4 Aug 2011 18:08 |
Hi Brummijan
Ignore my last post - have misread. Is this info from 1911 census in which case it could well be Esther and Mary and they would be using the surname White which would suggest theirmother had re-married to Jim White by then.
I don't think the marriage you found is right - the christian names are wrong.
Thanks for the help.
Elaine
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tempest
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4 Aug 2011 18:26 |
http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1399
confirms the marriage to John White with the additional other surname of McCabe
Surname: MEADOWS Forename(s): Bridget M Other surname: MCCABE
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Elaine
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4 Aug 2011 18:34 |
Hi
That's helpful-will definitely follow that up
Still trawling 1911 cesus trying to find Joseph Meadows (White).No luck
Elaine
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tempest
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4 Aug 2011 19:35 |
I wonder if this is some of the children, there are 2 spaces for the parents names but these are blank
the 1901 was in "Middle Hold in Pelton" and on this the birth places are "Low Hold Yorks"
John W White born 1892 as was John W Meadows F White born 1898 as was Florrie Meadows J White born 1900 as was Joseph Meadows D White born 1901 as was Donald Meadows
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Address: 21 Bell St Ryhope Sunderland Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born WHITE, John W Son Single M 19 1892 Run Rider Below Ground Grange Villa Yorks WHITE, F Daughter F 13 1898 Grange Villa Yorks WHITE, J Son M 11 1900 Low Hold Yorks WHITE, D Son M 10 1901 Low Hold Yorks GIBSON, Jane Boarder Married 3 years F 22 1889 Low Hold Yorks GIBSON, James Boarder Married M 30 1881 Hewer Coal Below Ground Low Hold Yorks GIBSON, George Boarder M 2 1909 Durham Ryhope
head of house on front is John White, form was completed by John W White
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4 Aug 2011 21:03 |
Hi Tempest that sure looks like you have found them,Grange Villa is between the area of Stanley and Chester Le Street Durham. No sign of parents or Donald Michael Meadows born 10/9/1900.
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tempest
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4 Aug 2011 21:51 |
Hi Maryb
is Donald not the "D White" on the 1911 census I posted?
not seeing Briget/ Mary or John/ Jim
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Mary
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5 Aug 2011 09:21 |
Yes Tempest,I see him now.
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5 Aug 2011 13:29 |
For ref..Is this Wm and family 1881...
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability James MEADOWS Head M Male 42 Wigan, Lancashire, England Coal Miner Ester MEADOWS Wife M Female 55 Wigan, Lancashire, England William MEADOWS Son U Male 19 Wigan, Lancashire, England Coal Miner Lucy MEADOWS Daur Female 15 Wigan, Lancashire, England Scholar Richard PRESCOT Lodger U Male 23 Chorley, Lancashire, England Coal Miner
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Haswell Moor Census Place Easington, Durham, England Family History Library Film 1342194 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4965 / 23 Page Number 40
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