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ann bateman born c.1804

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Simon

Simon Report 20 Apr 2011 11:29

I was joking about that too!

This one might become another classic thread

Paul

Paul Report 20 Apr 2011 11:54

It wasn't a professional who put me onto this custom/excise thing,rather I think i did come across a richard bateman who was a excise officer,this was some time back

Simon

Simon Report 20 Apr 2011 13:40

Paul
Can you please clearly and precisely state what you require to know with all the facts you have.

Paul

Paul Report 20 Apr 2011 18:09

I ideally want to find anne bateman supposedly born arundel c.1804,

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 20 Apr 2011 18:30

And so much for "all the facts you have" ... three pages later.

Paul, you appeared to dispute the censuses I posted for Frederick and Ann Redman and children for 1841, 1851 and 1861.

If you have different info, please provide it.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 20 Apr 2011 18:40

For info, there are two baptisms in the IGI that match children in the 1851 household:

EDWARD REDMAN
Christening: 18 APR 1841 Wonston, Hampshire, England
Father: FREDERIC REDMAN
Batch No.: C145061

Hannah Redmon
Christening: 21 OCT 1838 Woodmancott, Hampshire, England
Father: Frederick Redmon
Mother: Anna Redmon
Batch No.:
I034665

The second is not a regular "extracted" record.

I do keep assuming that Paul has a child's birth certificate.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 20 Apr 2011 19:27

Found this via pilot.familysearch where place of birth is properly transcribed as "Nr Arundel":

Name: Mark Bateman
Age: 78
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1783
Relation: Widower
Where born: N Armeael, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Westminster St Margaret
Occupation says: Pensioner Crown Serv, I think.


1851

Name: Mark Bateman
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1783
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Bateman - born Devonport c1781
Where born: Hindon, Sussex, England -- it says Slindon, of course
Occupation: Gardener
Civil parish: Westminster St Margaret


1841 in same place, no occupation stated, says born in county for both Mark and Jane.



I think this is another indication of the Arundel connection for Bateman, and that it may actually have been Slindon (less recognized the farther from home one got, so more likely to be called simply Arundel). Mark would be around the same age as the elusive Richard, quite possibly a brother.

Three children were born to a Mark Bateman and Jane in St Germans, Cornwall, in the 1810s. The population of that area was interchangeable with Devonport -- in fact bits were both Devon and Cornwall depending on the census year (my grx2 grfather was born in Devonport, he married into a family from St Germans and area) -- so I think those are children of the same Mark and Jane.

Two people have in their trees here at GR:

Mark Bateman 1782 Slindon Sussex

Have I asked this already? Are you in touch with the person who has in their tree here at GR? --

Richard Bateman 1778 Arundel West Sussex ...

I'd just search for Batemans born in Sussex 1770-1810 like ...

Paul

Paul Report 21 Apr 2011 01:05

You mention this richard bateman 1778,Never come across him before .
The census information about frederick and anne redman is correct.
Woodmancott is by popham mentioned in 1851 census.
THE SLINDON bateman i think in the1700-1800 appears to be mostly roman catholic.
I don't think i have contacted thosed with the other bateman trees.
I haven't got any birth certificate for above two children,i will have to check,but i don't think they were registered.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 21 Apr 2011 01:28

Well there's no guarantees at all -- even that you'll get a reply, and then that there will be any actual info to be had -- but I think PMing the person with

Richard Bateman 1778 Arundel West Sussex

in their family tree is the first thing I'd do!

Paul

Paul Report 22 Apr 2011 15:20

I Have pmed the person concerned.