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Hi just thinking the uncle who used to travel was called Emmanuel I think mandi x

Sorry - Only on for 2 minutes!

Did you notice that when Hector came over in 1933 he was a waiter but he wasn't working on the ship, or a 'proper' passenger - He embarked at Halifax and was being 'Deported' !!!

Dea x

Hi Colin yes that's them I think he did say he had an older sister not sure if there were more he never mentioned them just the sister. And Dea I wonder what he was being deported for? Perhaps that's why he never mentioned how he met Sadie!! Thankyou mandi x

This looks like her father Oscar on the 1911 census in Canada:

Artemesia, Grey East, Ontario

Fenwick Henry M Head M Aug 1840 70
Fenwick Sarah M Wife M Apr 1843 68
Towell Osker M stepson S Feb 1884 27

Stepfather was born England ane emigrated 1846. Sarah & Osker born Ontario.

Oscar in 1901

Toronto, York East, Ontario.

Towell William M Head M Jul 27 1846 54

Towell Sarah F Wife M Dec 25 1843 57

Lottess Evelena A F Daughter M Dec 21 1879 21

Towell Oscar M Son S May 10 1884 17

Towell Wilson M Son in law M Oct 20 01879 21

Towell Edith A S F Granddaughter S Mar 9 1901 1 mths

Father William was born England and emigrated 1867.

Corrections have been made by Kevin Hanit.
Last name for married daughter Evelina, son-in-law Wilson and grandaughter Edith is Lotten.

There are attestation papers for Oscar Towell enlisting for WW1. It says born 21 Feb. 1884, Toronto but gives next-of-kin as mother Mrs William Towell, 66 Wardale St., Toronto. This was 1915.

According to that 1911 census his mother had remarried Henry Fenwick!

Possible second marriage for Oscar's father William? But Sarah''s age doesn't match 1901 census.

013014-78 William TOWELL, 32, widower, machinist, England, York twp s/o William & Elizabeth TOWELL married Sarah HOATH, 27, Adjala, York twp d/o William & Sarah HOATH wtn: George William GUEST & Eveline GUEST both of Toronto, 11 September 1878

Hi 150.00 seems a lot of money at that time for a 14 year old to be carrying .I think hectors mum is the welsh connection and I believe they lived at a place called marl farm in llandudno for a while and that most of his relatives lived in the area for a while. I do believe they were quite a troubled family which is why it's quite a problem to unravel it now but you are all amazing thankyou mandi x

1891 Census of Canada
about Osca Towell Name: Osca Towell
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 7
Birth Year: abt 1884
Birthplace: Ontario
Relation to Head of House: Son
Religion: Church of England
French Canadian: No
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: Ontario
Province: Ontario
District Number: 130
District: York East
Subdistrict: St Mathews Ward
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Towell 45
Sariah Towell 43
Charles Towell 20
Minnie Towell 18
Evaline Towell 12
Osca Towell 7
William Hurford 30



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Evalina Alice Towell was born 9 Nov. and registered 5 Dec. 1879 . Father William CharlesTowell, mother's maiden name Sarah Hoath.

This looks like the marriage of William's son by his first wife Mary Ann Figg Towell. He seems to marry a relative of his father's second wife, the bride's mother being Hoath

Am I confusing you?

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1926
about Charles William Towell Name: Charles William Towell
Birth Place: Toronto
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Father Name: Wm Charles Towell
Mother Name: Mary Ann Figg Towell
Spouse Name: Mary Elizabeth Mcnally
Spouse's Age: 22
Spouse Birth Place: Tp Artemesia Grey Co
Spouse Father Name: James Mcnally
Spouse Mother Name: Mary Hoath
Marriage Date: 3 Jul 1895
Marriage Location: York
Marriage County: York
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS932

Hi just a little but when I get to have a good look and write it all down I'm sure it will all make sense thankyou mandi x

Well Mandi,

It looks like you have been doing just fine without me ! (tee hee).

What a lot of new connections you now have here.

I will see if I can find anything further for you, and I am sure the others are still looking also.

By the way, that £150 which Hector had with him when he was deported back to England in 1933 - It might interest you to know that by today's standards this would equate to around £7,500 - So, yes - quite a lot of money !

I wonder where all that came from ???

Dea x

To dea hi I really can,t thank you enough it has been amazing finding so much out after 11 years of not being able to find much can,t wait to sort all the info out and get it in some sort of order and maybe even find a few living relatives in Canada !!!! And maybe if I do I may well find out how Hector came by so much money!!! Funny how he failed to mention that he got deported from Canada!!! He liked to travel even when he was older and one of his last big trips was to Australia he never once mentioned to me that he had ever been there!!, thankyou mandi

Yes, I had a look for that too Colin but I haven't found it yet .......... Drattt !!!!!

Dea x

Hi Colin yes that does seem logical but you can,t imagine he would of had much if he went over there at first when he was 14.Also what on earth possessed them to get married when she was so young!! Maybe the aunty gave him the money I do have some bits of paperwork and letters particularly between him and Emmanuel and it does sound like a family at war!!once her family went back she didn,t stay with Hector just disappeared and nobody seems to know anything else I guess losing the baby was too much for her. Thankyou so much but am def going to try to find out what the codes mean that has intrigued me . Thankyou mandi x

Thankyou can,t wait!!! Took me ages to find it I'm still learning!!

the link for the new thread

http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/swan/thread/1258098

so others can follow

Hi Colin I am sure his name was Emmanuel swan after thinking about it today. He was def older than Hector but I am not sure by how much . I think he was hectors uncle but then again could of been a cousin . I think he came from llandudno. I do actually have a letter here from him to Hector will find it tomorrow . Hector was very close to him and I'm sure he told me he went to America but maybe he was in Canada . Will try to find the letter asap and not sure I will sleep tonight lol have so much to put in order mandi x

Sorry Colin just thought he could of been Emmanuel jones thanks mandix