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Bourton-on-the-Hill War Memorial

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chrissiex

chrissiex Report 7 Feb 2011 17:01

Sidney Sprules in 1891

John Sprules 27
Sarah A Sprules 23
Nelson G Sprules 2
Albert J Sprules 6/12
Sidney Sprules 17 born Lockeridge Wiltshire, boarder
William Alder 19

Andrew

Andrew Report 7 Feb 2011 17:02

1901 for Elsie

1901 England Census
about Elsie Sprules
Name: Elsie Sprules
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Marlborough, Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: West Overton
Ecclesiastical parish: Alton Priors and Fyfield All Saints and Overton St Michael
Town: Overton
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Marlborough
Sub-registration district: Marlborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Sprules 71
Charles Sprules 30
Louisa Sprules 28
George Sprules 10
Elsie Sprules 2


Andy

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 7 Feb 2011 17:03

here is that family in 1881 in West Overton Wiltshire

Henry Sprules 44
Martha Sprules 44
James Sprules 24
John Sprules 20
William Sprules 15
Emily Sprules 12
Sidney Sprules 10
Fanny Sprules 6
Henry E. Sprules 2

............. no Cyril .................


and the children are not from a previous marriage

Marriages Mar 1855
Chivers Martha Marlbro 5a 101
SPRULES Henry Marlbro 5a 101

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Feb 2011 17:03

I am aware there was no Cyril in the household else I would have posted it

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 7 Feb 2011 17:05

I'm sorry I don't understand the significance of Elsie Sprules the orphan

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 7 Feb 2011 17:13

the baptism of Sidney Sprules is interesting

baptism/christening date: 03 Dec 1871

because his birth just was not registered ! (and he certainly made himself a lot younger than he was in the 1911 census)

No Sidney with any surname was registered in Marlborough district in 1871 or 1872.

edit, darn his eyes, he changed his spelling

Births Dec 1871
Sprules Sydney Marlbro' 5a 78



LadyKira the 1901 census for Elsie is posted above, I still don't understand, do we think she could be a sister of Cyril?

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 7 Feb 2011 17:14

elsie still not with parents 1901.
suggests an orphan possibly

1901 census - household transcription
Person: SPRULES, Elsie
Address: 84, The George, West Overton, Overton
SPRULES, Mary Head Widow F 71 1830
Lockeridge
Wiltshire
SPRULES, Charles Grand Son Single M 30 1871 Carter On Farm
Fyfield
Wiltshire
SPRULES, Louisa Daughter Single F 28 1873 Ordinary Farm Work
Overton
Wiltshire
SPRULES, George Grand Son Single M 10 1891
Overton
Wiltshire
SPRULES, Elsie Grand Daughter Single F 2 1899
Marlborough
Wiltshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 7 Feb 2011 17:18

he would only be on the war memorial if he had a link with the village and elsie was living teir so iin the absence of finding cyril under that name i am investigating if there is a link between elsie and cyril.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Feb 2011 17:28

sounds good to me!!!

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Feb 2011 17:28

Elsie Elizabeth Sprules

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 06 Jun 1904
residence: Doynton, Gloucester, England
parents: Sidney Sprules, Ada Caroline

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Elsie Elizabeth Sprules
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 29 Jun 1904
baptism/christening place: Doynton, Gloucester, England
birth date: 06 Jun 1904
father's name: Sidney Sprules
mother's name: Ada Caroline
indexing project (batch) number: C17120-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number:

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Feb 2011 17:29

there was Maude as well

Maud Elizabeth Sproules

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Doynton, Gloucester, England
parents: Sidney Sproules, Ada Caroline

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Maud Elizabeth Sproules
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 28 Apr 1898
baptism/christening place: Doynton, Gloucester, England
father's name: Sidney Sproules
mother's name: Ada Caroline
indexing project (batch) number: C17120-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1472083

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 7 Feb 2011 17:30

bourton on the hill is close to the borders of wiltshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Feb 2011 17:30

another Gloucestershire Sprule[s]

Agnes A Sprules

England and Wales Census, 1891
birth: Tetbury, Gloucestershire
residence: England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1891
name: Agnes A Sprules
age: 27
gender: Female
birthplace: Tetbury, Gloucestershire
relationship to head of household: Wife
record type:

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 7 Feb 2011 17:40

Ann of green gables, the Elsie you posted just above

baptism/christening date: 29 Jun 1904

is an entirely different one, she is the child of Sidney and Ada in the 1911 census, referred to earlier

the easiest way to refer to all of them is the 1911 census

SPRULES SIDNEY M 1875 36 Bristol Gloucestershire
SPRULES ADA F 1878 33 Bristol Gloucestershire
SPRULES JAMES M 1910 1 Bristol Gloucestershire
SPRULES DORIS F 1909 2 Bristol Gloucestershire
SPRULES IVY F 1907 4 Bristol Gloucestershire
SPRULES ELISE F 1905 6 Bristol Gloucestershire
SPRULES ALBERT M 1903 8 Bristol Gloucestershire
SPRULES GILBERT M 1902 9 Bristol Gloucestershire
SPRULES GEORGE M 1900 11 Bristol Gloucestershire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 7 Feb 2011 17:42

did anyone read the link i posted

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Feb 2011 17:45

give it a rest, please Chrissie

I read it LadyKira

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 7 Feb 2011 17:50

I'm sorry, Ann of green gables, I am at a loss to udnerstand your comments

I was the first person to post in this thread (after it had been on the board an hour) and have tried rather hard to help

no one seems to have paid any attention to the information I have posted

including Anthea, of course

so I will leave her in your fine hands

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Feb 2011 18:13

"give it a rest" refers to you keep finding fault with everything I post

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 7 Feb 2011 18:43

sorry
had to nip out to the doctors

not sure what your problem is chrissie

we normally work well together.
i saw what you posted but to be honest none of us have hit the mark so we are all following different rrains of thought with the aim of finding him.


Andrew was a bit quicker than me today as i am still onehanded but we were using different sources so slightly fuller info on FMP.

If you read my link some has done research on the war memorial before and published a book but i could not see his name there. i think Anthea needs to find this from maybe her library.

Victor also goes to the gloucester archives each week and has a look up thread.
he may well be able to help.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Feb 2011 18:52

could this be the book?

This book was written by Ken Fowler and Guy Stapleton (a copy is available in the Record Office library). They began work on the book in July 1999 and completed it in 2000. This collection consists of five folders of research notes, copy photographs and photocopies of personal papers of the individual soldiers killed.
Mr Fowler and Mr Stapleton tell the story of the 106 men who lived, worked or trained locally and whose names appear on the memorials in Moreton's High Street and church and in the RAF cemetery. These include 44 men who died in World War One, 8 men who died after their return, 7 men killed in World War Two, and 41 aircrew buried in the RAF cemetery at Moreton.
Details of the men include unit, rank, regimental number, awards, name and address of parents, date and place sent on active service, date and cause of death, and details about the place of commemoration