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Margaret Mary Elliot

Margaret Mary Elliot Report 5 Jan 2011 13:52

dear helper,i am trying to find the brothers and sisters of emily whittaker born in 1876 and died in1918 she was my grandmother .she married a george morton in 1902ish and had 1 boy [my father] and 2 girls.i would like to get in touch with their descendents,they came from around york fulford and heslingden .i was told a henry whittaker was either buried in york minster ,and or he was lord major of york .your help would be much apprciated mgt

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 5 Jan 2011 14:05

From her marriage certificate, what is her father's name and occupation?

Jill

Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 14:06

Start by looking at the FREE 1881 census, to establish whether Emily had any siblings at that time.

Then look on search trees for their details. If anyone on here is researching them - send a message.

WHERE was Emily born?

Who was her father?

Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 14:07

What is the relevance of the name Henry Whittaker? Is he reputed to be related to Emily?

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 5 Jan 2011 14:07

The marriage is on FreeBMD in 1902. If you don't already have the certificate you would do as well to order it. £9.25 from the GRO.

Jill

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 5 Jan 2011 14:08

poss

Births Dec 1875 (>99%)
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Whittaker Emily Haslingden 8e 148


Name: Emily Whittaker
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Thomas Whittaker
Mother's name: Lydia A. Whittaker
Gender: Female
Where born: Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Accrington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 5 Manor St
Education:

Employment status: Subscribe now to see this information.
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Accrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Whittaker 47
Lydia A. Whittaker 39
Manday Whittaker 15
Bertha Whittaker 10
Adelaide Whittaker 7
Emily Whittaker 6
Elon Whittaker 4
Noah Whittaker
Elisha Whittaker 75


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4140; Folio: 48; Page: 42; GSU roll: 1341991.

Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 14:08

For INFO only

Marriages Jun 1902 (>99%)
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Morton George York 9d 114
Whittaker Emily York 9d 114

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 5 Jan 2011 14:09

As Flick says, you need to go searching in other members' trees as unlikely a relative will see this.

In passing, here they are 1911:

MORTON, George Head Married M 35 1876 Colliery Mechanical Engineer Rothbury Northumberland VIEW
MORTON, Emily Wife Married
9 years F 37 1874 Heslington York City VIEW
MORTON, Henry Whittaker Son M 8 1903 School Chester Le Street Durham VIEW
MORTON, Mary Ivy Knox Daughter F 5 1906 Crosscanonby Cumberland VIEW
MORTON, Monica Daughter F 1 1910 Seghill Northumberland VIEW
HOPWOOD, Annie Servant Single F 29 1882 General Servant Domestic York City VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
30841 Reference:
RG14PN30841 RG78PN1762 RD559 SD6 ED4 SN72

Registration District:
Tynemouth Sub District:
Cramlington Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
Cramlington

Address:
South View Cramlington Colliery Cramlington County:

Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 14:20

The birth year of 1876 as given by the OP is not correct.......the 1911 census is backed up by Emily's death record

Deaths Mar 1918 (>99%)
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Morton Emily 43 Tynemouth 10b 394

Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 14:24

You really need to get the marriage cert, to find out who her father was (if she knew him)

You clearly don't have the cert, as you refer to the marriage as being 1902-ISH

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 5 Jan 2011 14:49

can't find any birth record of an Emily Whittaker in Heslington (York as opposed to Haslingden Lancs) in the time scale given.

Anyone else found it please?

Could it have been a second marriage as she would have been 28ish when she married George which was relatively late for the times.

The marriage certificate to george would show this

Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 14:54

Her birth may not have been registered...it would have been just before penalties were introduced

Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 14:58

Worthy of consideration, perhaps?

1881

Name: Emily Sanderson
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph Sanderson
Mother's name: Mary Sanderson
Gender: Female
Where born: Heslington, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Gate Fulford
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 10 Walter St Greenfields
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Walmgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Sanderson 45
Mary Sanderson 45
Joseph Sanderson 23
Fred Sanderson 21
William Sanderson 9
Thomas Sanderson 8
Emily Sanderson 6

BUT.....if she married in 1902 as Whittaker, one would expect her to be on 1901 as Whittaker....and I can't see her there.

Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 15:03

Well, ladies, it's been interesting..but until Margaret returns, that's my lot on this one

Margaret Mary Elliot

Margaret Mary Elliot Report 7 Jan 2011 12:50

thankyou flick ,sorry i did not get back ,but my husband was not well ,last night and this morning .he 'happens 'to be only 83years old and needs nursing care ,as i am an ex nurse i am of 78 years old .and cannot do 2 jobs at once 'used to '. ---Emily whittaker was born in 1875 at fulford heslington yorkshire .her father was henry whittaker born in 1850 at the same place. he was married to a mary strickland .what i ant to know , do they have any descenents alive so i can get in touch with them .thankyou for your help

Flick

Flick Report 7 Jan 2011 13:09

Hi, Margaret,

I was just letting others know that I wouldn't be adding more for the time being........no criticism of you.

Have you followed the advice given and looked in search trees?

Until we can find Emily before 1911, it's going to be impossible for us to look for descendants of her siblings..........if indeed there were any.

Flick

Flick Report 7 Jan 2011 13:13

Are these the people you have as her parents?

Marriages Sep 1850 (>99%)
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DARLING Anne York 23 733
Douglass John York 23 733
IRWIN George York 23 733
Peacock Elizabeth York 23 733
Pennock William York 23 733
>>>>>>>>>>>>Strickland Mary York 23 733
THRESH Mary York 23 733
>>>>>>>>>>>>Whitaker Henry York 23 733
If so, her father was NOT born in 1850!

Flick

Flick Report 7 Jan 2011 13:18

1851

Name: Henry Whitaker
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Whitaker
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: York St Cuthbert
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Walmgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 3b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Whitaker 26 Occ: BUTCHER
Mary Whitaker 26

______________________________________

1861

Name: Henry Whittaker
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Whittaker
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: York Holy Trinity Kings Court
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Bootham
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Whittaker 36
Mary Whittaker 37
John Whittaker 9
Susannah Whittaker 7
Mary Ann Whittaker 6
Henry Whittaker 4
Sarah A Whittaker 2
Margaret L Whittaker 11 MO
John Strickland 20
William Steel 22
Christiana Lyall 21


Mary would have been 52 years old in 1875!!

Flick

Flick Report 7 Jan 2011 13:31

Can I suggest that you think again about the identities of Emily's parents............

The people above may well have been her grandparents............they had a son Henry, who may have fathered Emily.

I'll see if I can trace him...................

Here are two of Henry and Mary's daughters in 1871..............

Name: Margaret L Whitaker
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Cousin
Gender: Female
Where born: York, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Chapel Haddlesey
Ecclesiastical parish: York
Town: Chapel Haddlesey
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Selby
Sub-registration district: Carlton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah E Laverack 26
Sarah A Laverack 3 Months
Catherine Stickland 21
Mary A Whitaker 16
Margaret L Whitaker 10
Martha Walton 18
Frances H Strong 15
George Walton 18
John T Burton 15

Flick

Flick Report 7 Jan 2011 13:35

1871 for the rest of the family

Name: Henry Whittaker
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's name: Henry Whittaker
Mother's name: Mary Whittaker
Gender: Male
Where born: York, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Heslington St Lawrence
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Walmgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Household schedule number: 65
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Whittaker 46
Mary Whittaker 46
Susannah Whittaker 18
Henry Whittaker 14
Sarah E Whittaker 12
James W Whittaker 8
Robert M Whittaker 6
Emily Whittaker 4 *******************************b. Heslington
George Hilton 49

Born almost ten years earlier than the one who is on 1911

If this IS your Emily, you now have plenty of names to look up on freebmd.....for marriages etc.