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Margaret Mary Elliot
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8 Jan 2011 12:15 |
dear flick ,no this mary morton is no relation,my fathers sisters were ivy knox morton[she married her cousin thomas morton ,and had a retarded girl early part of war ,she died only being on this earth about 3 years ] monica mary my other aunt married a edwin randall ,they are all dead except for my cousin christpher ,we keep in touch.it is a pity how families die out .this why i am trying to find any whittakers so far no success .robert m whittaker [emily,s brother] i think died in 1945 aged 82years in york ,but cannot get any names of his chilren ,not sure how i do this .regards mgt .just thought the mortons all came from nthmbld ,near chillingham they were farmers for chillingham castle --lord tan kafield -now sir humphrey wakefield .i remember my grt grandmother sarah morton she died about 1943ish .she ended up in seton delaval .regards mgt
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7 Jan 2011 15:13 |
Do you know what became of your father's sisters?
In case not, is this (perhaps) the marriage of one of them?
Marriages Sep 1944 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MORTON Mary I Wilkinson Nthmbld. S. 10b 569 WILKINSON Edwin Morton Nthmbld.S. 10b 569
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7 Jan 2011 15:08 |
Nothing to forgive...............
Delighted to be able to help.
But she did lie about her age! You didn't get her dates wrong - you gave us what you had been led to believe was the truth. So finding her was trickier than it needed to have been!
I've posted her death for you, and all the census info from 1871 to 1901.
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Margaret Mary Elliot
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7 Jan 2011 14:01 |
hi flick ,sorry i got at you please forgive . you have just come up with the family 1871 i must have got my dates wrong ,i do know she died in 1918 or1919 the flu epidemic.emily was my grandmother she married a george morton in 1902 .i am now going to try and find their chilren ,thankyou for your help i may still get back to you for help please thankyou again mgt
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7 Jan 2011 13:56 |
It looks very much as though Emily lied about her age...........in 1911, she was admitting to being TWO years older than her husband, but it should in fact have been TEN
And the lie was continued on her death reg'n..........
Deaths Mar 1918 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morton Emily 43 Tynemouth 10b 394
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7 Jan 2011 13:50 |
1901.......recorded only by her initial
Name: Mary Whittaker Age: 76 Estimated birth year: abt 1825 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Henry Whittaker Gender: Female Where born: Drase, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Heslington Ecclesiastical parish: Heslington St Paul Town: Heslington County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: York Sub-registration district: Escrick ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 115 Household Members: Name Age Henry Whittaker 74 Mary Whittaker 76 M S Whittaker 36 Robert Whittaker 34 E Whittaker 32 Cooper Smithers 36 Caroline Cook 17
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7 Jan 2011 13:47 |
1881
Name: Emily Whittaker Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relation: Daughter Mother's name: Mary Whittaker Gender: Female Where born: Yorkshire, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Heslington St Lawrence County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Bleach Field House Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: York Sub-registration district: Walmgate ED, institution, or vessel: 32 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary Whittaker 57 born DRAX Mary Ann Whittaker 25 Henry Whittaker 24 Sarah Ellen Whittaker 22 Marg. L. Whittaker 20 Robert M. Whittaker 16 Emily Whittaker 14 Edward Cowton 28 _________________________________________________
1891
Name: Emily Whittaker Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Henry Whittaker Mother's name: Mary Whittaker Gender: Female Where born: Heslington, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Fulford Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence Town: Heslington County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: York Sub-registration district: Walmgate ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Whittaker 66 Mary Whittaker 68 Margaret L Whittaker 22 Robert M Whittaker 26 Emily Whittaker 24 Henry F Perrty 7 Joseph W Ayar 5 William Gordon 25 Sarah Bracke 27
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7 Jan 2011 13:38 |
Here's her birth...............
Births Jun 1866 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHITTAKER Emily York 9d 45
But I would STRONGLY advise you to obtain the marriage cert.................
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7 Jan 2011 13:35 |
1871 for the rest of the family
Name: Henry Whittaker Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Son Father's name: Henry Whittaker Mother's name: Mary Whittaker Gender: Male Where born: York, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Heslington St Lawrence County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: York Sub-registration district: Walmgate ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Household schedule number: 65 Household Members: Name Age Henry Whittaker 46 Mary Whittaker 46 Susannah Whittaker 18 Henry Whittaker 14 Sarah E Whittaker 12 James W Whittaker 8 Robert M Whittaker 6 Emily Whittaker 4 *******************************b. Heslington George Hilton 49 Born almost ten years earlier than the one who is on 1911
If this IS your Emily, you now have plenty of names to look up on freebmd.....for marriages etc.
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7 Jan 2011 13:31 |
Can I suggest that you think again about the identities of Emily's parents............
The people above may well have been her grandparents............they had a son Henry, who may have fathered Emily.
I'll see if I can trace him...................
Here are two of Henry and Mary's daughters in 1871..............
Name: Margaret L Whitaker Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation: Cousin Gender: Female Where born: York, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Chapel Haddlesey Ecclesiastical parish: York Town: Chapel Haddlesey County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Selby Sub-registration district: Carlton ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Sarah E Laverack 26 Sarah A Laverack 3 Months Catherine Stickland 21 Mary A Whitaker 16 Margaret L Whitaker 10 Martha Walton 18 Frances H Strong 15 George Walton 18 John T Burton 15
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7 Jan 2011 13:18 |
1851
Name: Henry Whitaker Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1825 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Whitaker Gender: M (Male) Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: York St Cuthbert County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: York Sub-registration district: Walmgate ED, institution, or vessel: 3b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Henry Whitaker 26 Occ: BUTCHER Mary Whitaker 26 ______________________________________
1861
Name: Henry Whittaker Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1825 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Whittaker Gender: Male Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: York Holy Trinity Kings Court County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: York Sub-registration district: Bootham ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Henry Whittaker 36 Mary Whittaker 37 John Whittaker 9 Susannah Whittaker 7 Mary Ann Whittaker 6 Henry Whittaker 4 Sarah A Whittaker 2 Margaret L Whittaker 11 MO John Strickland 20 William Steel 22 Christiana Lyall 21 Mary would have been 52 years old in 1875!!
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7 Jan 2011 13:13 |
Are these the people you have as her parents?
Marriages Sep 1850 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DARLING Anne York 23 733 Douglass John York 23 733 IRWIN George York 23 733 Peacock Elizabeth York 23 733 Pennock William York 23 733 >>>>>>>>>>>>Strickland Mary York 23 733 THRESH Mary York 23 733 >>>>>>>>>>>>Whitaker Henry York 23 733 If so, her father was NOT born in 1850!
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7 Jan 2011 13:09 |
Hi, Margaret,
I was just letting others know that I wouldn't be adding more for the time being........no criticism of you.
Have you followed the advice given and looked in search trees?
Until we can find Emily before 1911, it's going to be impossible for us to look for descendants of her siblings..........if indeed there were any.
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Margaret Mary Elliot
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7 Jan 2011 12:50 |
thankyou flick ,sorry i did not get back ,but my husband was not well ,last night and this morning .he 'happens 'to be only 83years old and needs nursing care ,as i am an ex nurse i am of 78 years old .and cannot do 2 jobs at once 'used to '. ---Emily whittaker was born in 1875 at fulford heslington yorkshire .her father was henry whittaker born in 1850 at the same place. he was married to a mary strickland .what i ant to know , do they have any descenents alive so i can get in touch with them .thankyou for your help
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5 Jan 2011 15:03 |
Well, ladies, it's been interesting..but until Margaret returns, that's my lot on this one
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5 Jan 2011 14:58 |
Worthy of consideration, perhaps?
1881
Name: Emily Sanderson Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Joseph Sanderson Mother's name: Mary Sanderson Gender: Female Where born: Heslington, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Gate Fulford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 10 Walter St Greenfields Occupation: Scholar Registration district: York Sub-registration district: Walmgate ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Sanderson 45 Mary Sanderson 45 Joseph Sanderson 23 Fred Sanderson 21 William Sanderson 9 Thomas Sanderson 8 Emily Sanderson 6
BUT.....if she married in 1902 as Whittaker, one would expect her to be on 1901 as Whittaker....and I can't see her there.
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5 Jan 2011 14:54 |
Her birth may not have been registered...it would have been just before penalties were introduced
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5 Jan 2011 14:49 |
can't find any birth record of an Emily Whittaker in Heslington (York as opposed to Haslingden Lancs) in the time scale given.
Anyone else found it please?
Could it have been a second marriage as she would have been 28ish when she married George which was relatively late for the times.
The marriage certificate to george would show this
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5 Jan 2011 14:24 |
You really need to get the marriage cert, to find out who her father was (if she knew him)
You clearly don't have the cert, as you refer to the marriage as being 1902-ISH
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5 Jan 2011 14:20 |
The birth year of 1876 as given by the OP is not correct.......the 1911 census is backed up by Emily's death record
Deaths Mar 1918 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morton Emily 43 Tynemouth 10b 394
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