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Margaret Mary Elliot

Margaret Mary Elliot Report 8 Jan 2011 12:15

dear flick ,no this mary morton is no relation,my fathers sisters were ivy knox morton[she married her cousin thomas morton ,and had a retarded girl early part of war ,she died only being on this earth about 3 years ] monica mary my other aunt married a edwin randall ,they are all dead except for my cousin christpher ,we keep in touch.it is a pity how families die out .this why i am trying to find any whittakers so far no success .robert m whittaker [emily,s brother] i think died in 1945 aged 82years in york ,but cannot get any names of his chilren ,not sure how i do this .regards mgt .just thought the mortons all came from nthmbld ,near chillingham they were farmers for chillingham castle --lord tan kafield -now sir humphrey wakefield .i remember my grt grandmother sarah morton she died about 1943ish .she ended up in seton delaval .regards mgt

Flick

Flick Report 7 Jan 2011 15:13

Do you know what became of your father's sisters?

In case not, is this (perhaps) the marriage of one of them?

Marriages Sep 1944 (>99%)
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MORTON Mary I Wilkinson Nthmbld. S. 10b 569
WILKINSON Edwin Morton Nthmbld.S. 10b 569

Flick

Flick Report 7 Jan 2011 15:08

Nothing to forgive...............

Delighted to be able to help.

But she did lie about her age! You didn't get her dates wrong - you gave us what you had been led to believe was the truth. So finding her was trickier than it needed to have been!

I've posted her death for you, and all the census info from 1871 to 1901.

Margaret Mary Elliot

Margaret Mary Elliot Report 7 Jan 2011 14:01

hi flick ,sorry i got at you please forgive . you have just come up with the family 1871 i must have got my dates wrong ,i do know she died in 1918 or1919 the flu epidemic.emily was my grandmother she married a george morton in 1902 .i am now going to try and find their chilren ,thankyou for your help i may still get back to you for help please thankyou again mgt

Flick

Flick Report 7 Jan 2011 13:56

It looks very much as though Emily lied about her age...........in 1911, she was admitting to being TWO years older than her husband, but it should in fact have been TEN

And the lie was continued on her death reg'n..........

Deaths Mar 1918 (>99%)
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Morton Emily 43 Tynemouth 10b 394

Flick

Flick Report 7 Jan 2011 13:50

1901.......recorded only by her initial

Name: Mary Whittaker
Age: 76
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Henry Whittaker
Gender: Female
Where born: Drase, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Heslington
Ecclesiastical parish: Heslington St Paul
Town: Heslington
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Escrick
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Whittaker 74
Mary Whittaker 76
M S Whittaker 36
Robert Whittaker 34
E Whittaker 32
Cooper Smithers 36
Caroline Cook 17

Flick

Flick Report 7 Jan 2011 13:47

1881

Name: Emily Whittaker
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Mary Whittaker
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Heslington St Lawrence
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Bleach Field House
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Walmgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Whittaker 57 born DRAX
Mary Ann Whittaker 25
Henry Whittaker 24
Sarah Ellen Whittaker 22
Marg. L. Whittaker 20
Robert M. Whittaker 16
Emily Whittaker 14
Edward Cowton 28
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1891

Name: Emily Whittaker
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Henry Whittaker
Mother's name: Mary Whittaker
Gender: Female
Where born: Heslington, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Fulford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
Town: Heslington
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Walmgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Whittaker 66
Mary Whittaker 68
Margaret L Whittaker 22
Robert M Whittaker 26
Emily Whittaker 24
Henry F Perrty 7
Joseph W Ayar 5
William Gordon 25
Sarah Bracke 27

Flick

Flick Report 7 Jan 2011 13:38

Here's her birth...............

Births Jun 1866 (>99%)
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WHITTAKER Emily York 9d 45


But I would STRONGLY advise you to obtain the marriage cert.................

Flick

Flick Report 7 Jan 2011 13:35

1871 for the rest of the family

Name: Henry Whittaker
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's name: Henry Whittaker
Mother's name: Mary Whittaker
Gender: Male
Where born: York, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Heslington St Lawrence
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Walmgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Household schedule number: 65
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Whittaker 46
Mary Whittaker 46
Susannah Whittaker 18
Henry Whittaker 14
Sarah E Whittaker 12
James W Whittaker 8
Robert M Whittaker 6
Emily Whittaker 4 *******************************b. Heslington
George Hilton 49

Born almost ten years earlier than the one who is on 1911

If this IS your Emily, you now have plenty of names to look up on freebmd.....for marriages etc.

Flick

Flick Report 7 Jan 2011 13:31

Can I suggest that you think again about the identities of Emily's parents............

The people above may well have been her grandparents............they had a son Henry, who may have fathered Emily.

I'll see if I can trace him...................

Here are two of Henry and Mary's daughters in 1871..............

Name: Margaret L Whitaker
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Cousin
Gender: Female
Where born: York, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Chapel Haddlesey
Ecclesiastical parish: York
Town: Chapel Haddlesey
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Selby
Sub-registration district: Carlton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah E Laverack 26
Sarah A Laverack 3 Months
Catherine Stickland 21
Mary A Whitaker 16
Margaret L Whitaker 10
Martha Walton 18
Frances H Strong 15
George Walton 18
John T Burton 15

Flick

Flick Report 7 Jan 2011 13:18

1851

Name: Henry Whitaker
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Whitaker
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: York St Cuthbert
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Walmgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 3b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Whitaker 26 Occ: BUTCHER
Mary Whitaker 26

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1861

Name: Henry Whittaker
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Whittaker
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: York Holy Trinity Kings Court
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Bootham
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Whittaker 36
Mary Whittaker 37
John Whittaker 9
Susannah Whittaker 7
Mary Ann Whittaker 6
Henry Whittaker 4
Sarah A Whittaker 2
Margaret L Whittaker 11 MO
John Strickland 20
William Steel 22
Christiana Lyall 21


Mary would have been 52 years old in 1875!!

Flick

Flick Report 7 Jan 2011 13:13

Are these the people you have as her parents?

Marriages Sep 1850 (>99%)
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DARLING Anne York 23 733
Douglass John York 23 733
IRWIN George York 23 733
Peacock Elizabeth York 23 733
Pennock William York 23 733
>>>>>>>>>>>>Strickland Mary York 23 733
THRESH Mary York 23 733
>>>>>>>>>>>>Whitaker Henry York 23 733
If so, her father was NOT born in 1850!

Flick

Flick Report 7 Jan 2011 13:09

Hi, Margaret,

I was just letting others know that I wouldn't be adding more for the time being........no criticism of you.

Have you followed the advice given and looked in search trees?

Until we can find Emily before 1911, it's going to be impossible for us to look for descendants of her siblings..........if indeed there were any.

Margaret Mary Elliot

Margaret Mary Elliot Report 7 Jan 2011 12:50

thankyou flick ,sorry i did not get back ,but my husband was not well ,last night and this morning .he 'happens 'to be only 83years old and needs nursing care ,as i am an ex nurse i am of 78 years old .and cannot do 2 jobs at once 'used to '. ---Emily whittaker was born in 1875 at fulford heslington yorkshire .her father was henry whittaker born in 1850 at the same place. he was married to a mary strickland .what i ant to know , do they have any descenents alive so i can get in touch with them .thankyou for your help

Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 15:03

Well, ladies, it's been interesting..but until Margaret returns, that's my lot on this one

Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 14:58

Worthy of consideration, perhaps?

1881

Name: Emily Sanderson
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph Sanderson
Mother's name: Mary Sanderson
Gender: Female
Where born: Heslington, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Gate Fulford
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 10 Walter St Greenfields
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Walmgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Sanderson 45
Mary Sanderson 45
Joseph Sanderson 23
Fred Sanderson 21
William Sanderson 9
Thomas Sanderson 8
Emily Sanderson 6

BUT.....if she married in 1902 as Whittaker, one would expect her to be on 1901 as Whittaker....and I can't see her there.

Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 14:54

Her birth may not have been registered...it would have been just before penalties were introduced

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 5 Jan 2011 14:49

can't find any birth record of an Emily Whittaker in Heslington (York as opposed to Haslingden Lancs) in the time scale given.

Anyone else found it please?

Could it have been a second marriage as she would have been 28ish when she married George which was relatively late for the times.

The marriage certificate to george would show this

Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 14:24

You really need to get the marriage cert, to find out who her father was (if she knew him)

You clearly don't have the cert, as you refer to the marriage as being 1902-ISH

Flick

Flick Report 5 Jan 2011 14:20

The birth year of 1876 as given by the OP is not correct.......the 1911 census is backed up by Emily's death record

Deaths Mar 1918 (>99%)
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Morton Emily 43 Tynemouth 10b 394