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Hi Everyone

I cant believe how much work you have all done im so sorry i havent been i touch i was rushed to the doctors and have been refined to bed, this is the first time i have felt like sitting up and doing something but still can not move as yet, so looks like i have lots to be going with (think my head is about to explode lol)

I to still do not know where the Bryant name has come from.

Also if George Chamley did adpot Frank why not also Frances aswell and how would i prove that there ever was an adpotion that took place as did it noe become legal until 1927???

Samantha

Samantha, I don't think you ever will prove an adoption. As for FrancEs, are we sure she survived to 1891?

Ozi

Morning Ozi how are you

Ive been having a look through some paper work that i have here and dont know if its a match or helps but have found a marriage cert for Frances Vicary aged 23 yrs marrying an Ernest Alfred Jagg on the 11 Juky 1903 BUT for her fathers name and rank of profession she she put deceased, although her father Thomas John Vicary did not die until 1908 or was she referring to George Chamley as he died 1900 which would seem weird as the two of them have not been mention or really connected together.

Samantha

It's really difficult to tell if that's the same Frances (although I don't see another likely one :

1911 census transcription details for: 42 Grafton Road Holloway N
RG14PN819 RG78PN28 RD10 SD2 ED20 SN278


Reg. District: Islington Sub District: Upper Holloway
Parish: Islington Enum. District: 20
Address: 42 Grafton Road Holloway N
County: London
TAGG, Ernest Alfred Head Married M 36 1875 Coachman Royal Mail London Islington
TAGG, Fanny Francis Wife Married
8 years F 29 1882 London Westminster
TAGG, Ernest Francis Son M 7 1904 London Islington
TAGG, Leonard Alfred Son M 1 1910 London Islington


I looked up the address given on the marriage cert (!3 Storey Street,Islington) in 1901,but didn't see anyone promising. Well,there was a Fanny Searle of the right age,but she's really a Searle.

Maureen

Marriage (for info) Note it's transcribed Tagg not Jagg - tbh original could be either:

Name: Frances Vicary
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Spouse Name: Ernest Alfred Tagg
Spouse Age: 28
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 11 Jul 1903
Parish: St Andrew, Barnsbury
County: London
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Leonard Vicary
Spouse Father Name: William Tagg

Witnesses Alice Amelia Long and Ernest Marsland

Leonard?? I think it says "deceased" on the image.

Maureen

Although the age is slightly out - could this be Frances in 1901?

KENDAL, James F Head Married M 53 1848 Watchmaker & Jeweller
City
London
KENDAL, Florence E Wife Married F 23 1878
Islington
London
KENDAL, James T Son Single M 3 1898
Richmond
Surrey
>>>>CHAMLEY, Fanny Servant Single F 19 1882 Housemaid Domestic
City
London
NEAL, Annie Servant Single F 21 1880 Cook Domestic
Leytonstone
Essex
HOPKINS, Eliza Servant Single F 16 1885 Nurse Domestic
Kew
Middlesex

RG number:
RG13 Piece:
171 Folio:
65 Page:
32

Registration District:
Islington Sub District:
Lower Holloway Enumeration District:
3 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Luke

Civil Parish:
Islington Municipal Borough:
Address:
440, Camden Road, Islington County:
London

Name: Ernest A Tagg
Death Registration Month/Year: 1943
Age at death (estimated): 68
Registration district: Edmonton
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 988

Not finding a likely death yet for Frances Tagg.

Sorry, have been out - I agree it said deceased, deceased, for father's name and for father's occupation, hadn't noticed the transcription 'Leonard'.

Sorry, Samantha, I meant to say get well soon, but got caught up in your family.

Ozi

Ditto from me,Samantha!

Maureen

Reviewing your last part about Frances, I would have thought she would use the name Chamley. Especially as 1901 certainly looks like her.

Ozi