Your welcome George. When you get the death certs it would be nice to know the result and if you wish to come back and we can try to aid you some more on this please do come back here and not start a new post as much info is here already that may be able to help further.. Just sorry we have not been able to pinpoint Harrys birth.But as Maureen says,,there are a lot in and around the area at that time. Good luck,Merry Christmas and a happy New Year
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you're welcome
it might be worth you having a look at the following website which specialises in Jewish family tree research and records
http://www.jewishgen.org
there is also a public tree on ancestry belonging to "markbasham1" which has Abraham Goldstein and Maria and their son Joel (who might be Joseph looking at the birth years given in the 1871 and 81 censuses), the owner seems to possibly be a descendant of Maria's sister
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Hello everyone. Hope your christmas went well. I have now received the death certificates regarding Joseph and Rosina Harriett Goldstein.
Joseph's tells me that he died on the 22nd December 1938 at 9 Rosemary Street ( the date I have on my rememberence cards). His occupation at time of death was given as a cabinets makers assistant, aged 70. The address and informant and present at death was M Hards (daughter) of 9 Rosemary Street, Islington.
Rosina's death certificate tells me that she died on the 10th October 1941, aged 63, at Gun House, Great Alne, R9, (the date which I have on my rememberence cards). Rosina's occupation was given as the widow of Joseph Goldstein, a carpenter. The informants details was given as J Goldstein (son) of 7 Chisholm Road, Stoke Newington. London, N16.
Any help and advice you are able to give me allowing me to take this forward would be hugely appreciated. With regards...
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Hi! I have now received three birth certificates.
1..Births Dec 1902 GOLDSTEIN Sophia Hackney 1b 529 The details supplied on the certificate has told me that Sophia was born on the 1st September 1902 at 69 North Street, South Hackney. Fathers name was given as Joseph Goldstein, a cabinet maker, journeyman. The name of Sohia's mother is stated as Rosettan Harriett Goldstein, formely Whitford (date of registration was 6th Oct 1902).
2..Births Dec 1909 Goldstein John Shoreditch 1c 32 John's birth certificate has told me that he was born John Goldstein on 16th November 1909 at 26 Redvers Street (The address the Gold family were living according to the 1911 census). Fathers name etc was stated as Joseph Goldstein , a costermonger. John's mothers name was given as Rose Goldstein, formerly Whitford. I think that this certificate confirms thsat i have the correct family in my research.
3.. With regards with Harry's birth certificate and there being so many Harry Goldstein's born about the time I chose to order the closest one I thought would be the more likely according to the 1911 census as being aged 8. I plucked for Edmonton 1903 and this was completely wrong as this Harry Goldstein's parents were given as Morris Goldstein and Bertha Goldstein, formerly Teamen.
Is it possible that anyone can please advise me how I could narrow my search down regarding the birth certificate for Harry (Gold) Goldstein.
I have now ordered a birth certificate for Birth jun 1915 ..Goldstein Margaret....Whitford, Shoreditch 1c ..46. And am hoping that Margaret was a daughter born to Joseph and Rosina after the 1911 census and who possible married a Mr Hards and was the M Hards (daughter) who was the informant on Joseph's death certificate.
I have also ordered the marriage certificate for Joseph Goldstein and Rose Whitford , both, Mile End, vol 1c.. page 46.
Again help and advise regarding how I could narrow my search down the birth certificate for Harry (Gold) Goldstein will be very much appreciated.
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As you grandfather is stated born in October 1903 on his death cert then only births reg in the Dec Quarter would need to be looked at I would say... Concentrating the search in the east end of London there are these
Births Jun 1903 GOLDSTEIN Harry St. Geo. East 1c 344
Births Mar 1904 Goldstein Harry St. Geo. East 1c 346
I would submit them to the GRO without ref numbers and then you can state fathers/mothers name .If they do not find it you will get ALL your money back...But it does take up to 3 wks for it to be done that way.. Other than that you can try phoning the reg office itself to see if they will have a look?
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