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I am having trouble finding any details of Alfred Jarvis's (my great grandfather) first wife - Martha Jane Berridge (per their daughter's Elizabeth birth cert -(4 sept 1886 Basford notts) and martha died in march 1896 aged 39 of general paralysis for 6 years at the Borough Asylum notts. Therefore born approx. 1837 (in the october alfred married my grandmother)
I have been unable to find her on the 1891 census at present, but I found that alfred is a lodger/groom in long street and their daughter is with her grandmother (Eliazabeth!) in Burton Joyce.
Also I have not been able to find a marriage certificate for her either and due to not having her on a census I do not know where she was born.
Any help/ideas on tracking her down would be appreciated

In 1891, as a resident of an institution, she may appear only under her initials.

What was the place where she died -- Borough Asylum where? -- to try to find her that way in 1891.

Age 39 in 1896 would make her birth c1857

Oops -- 39 in 1896 makes her born c1857, not c1837?


edit -- great arithmeticians think alike. ;)

Also -- Beridge (as in your subject line) or Berridge?


Proofreading is a good thing.

The only marriage where Alfred Jarvis is on the same page as anyone named Martha J


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Marriages Jun 1875 (>99%)
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DEVINE Ellen Nottingham 7b 385
GRIMSHAW Thomas Nottingham 7b 385
JARVIS Alfred Nottingham 7b 385
Maycock Martha Jane Nottingham 7b 385

Using NOTTS as a guide

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Births Sep 1856 (>99%)
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Berridge Martha Jane Basford 7b 124

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1861 England Census
Martha J Berridge Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter Father's name: Frederick Berridge Mother's name: Mary A Berridge Gender: Female Where born: Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Basford Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Basford ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household schedule number: 127

Frederick Berridge 47
Mary A Berridge 41
Annie Berridge 9
Eliza Berridge 6
Martha J Berridge 4
Richard Berridge 1

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2440; Folio: 33; Page: 25; GSU roll: 542971.

For ref.

Not far from where i live.



Nottingham Borough Asylum
Mapperley Hospital

Date founded: 1876
Date opened: 3rd August 1880
Date closed: 1994
Location: Porchester Road, Mapperley, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire
Architect: George Thomas Hine of Nottingham
Layout: Linear Corridor Plan


George

What did Alfred say about his 'status' when he married in 1896?

Alfred is a groom in Long Street -- Where??

We need his birth particulars -- date, place ...

Flick's marriage looks interesting.


This one is a married groom on Lily Street ... lodging with a Long household ... I hate missing puzzle pieces.

Name: Alfred Jarvis
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Lodger
Where born: Ingham, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: St Mary


Ah, well, the Martha Jane Berridge in 1861 seems rather self-evident ...

1871 England Census
Name: Mary A Berridge
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Burton, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Basford
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Mapperley and Sherwood
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Basford
Household Members: Name Age
Mary A Berridge 51
Annie L Berridge 18
Charles Berridge 11

1891: Elizabeth Jarvis abt 1887 Carrington, Nottinghamshire, England Granddaughter Burton Joyce, Nottinghamshire
lizabeth Jarvis abt 1821 Catesby, Leicestershire, England Head Burton Joyce, Nottinghamshire [Oatby on image]



1871 England Census
Name: Alfred Jarvis
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Elizabeth Jarvis
Gender: Male
Where born: Ingham, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Snenton
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Radford
Sub-registration district: Snenton
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Jarvis 50 - Oadby, Leicestershire
William Jarvis 20
Priscilla Jarvis 18
John Jarvis 16
Alfred Jarvis 15 <<<<<<<<<<<

Alfred in 1871

Name: Alfred Jarvis
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Elizabeth Jarvis
Gender: Male
Where born: Ingham, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Snenton
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Radford
Sub-registration district: Snenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Jarvis 50
William Jarvis 20
Priscilla Jarvis 18
John Jarvis 16
Alfred Jarvis 15

Which grandparents was Elizabeth with in 1891?

Odd...........no sign of Alfred in 1881

This is the asylum reference for 1891. Everybody is initialled including the staff.

Class: RG12; Piece: 2679; Folio 121

Martha born in Basford Notts

Graham, what does that mean?

Flick already posted the registration details for the birth in Basford.

Are you offering something else, or just repeating and not even giving specifics?

Sure glad Helen is as interested as everybody else!


There's no birth of a Martha Jane Maycock to match that 1875 marriage (no birth at all of an MJM).

So I'd suggest getting that certificate.

Helen doesn't seem very keen to check for info, does she?