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Hi Tracey

Many thanks for your kind offer........I'm searching for the birth of:

Catherine Hay Kinmond c1854, Dundee (according to the 1881 census).

Her parents were Alexander Kinmond and Margaret Wilkie, married (according to their son Robert's birth reg), 11 Jan 1851, Liff, Benvie & Invergowrie. Robert was born 14 Sept 1855, Longforgen, Perthshire. Their 2nd son Charles was born in the East Indies, which explains why I've never found them on a 1861 census I guess.

The name is sometimes spelt Kimment.

Thank you very much.

Mary

Hi Chris,

There is nothing coming up that i can see?

Did you find him on a basic search of the site or are you just hoping he'd be there?

Tracey x

Thanks Irene :)

Not ignoring yours Jean, i am still doing some searches.... the birth for Henry the son is not coming up tho ? :(


T x

Hello Tracey,
got it from Non Conformist BMD's site...thought it was on Genealogist, but not to worry if I've made a mistake, lol :-))

Chris :)

Hi T,

Henry's birth is shown as Stewart Henry Moore , his parents weren't married at the time,

jean

Hi CM,

I have this...

11/01/1851 KINNMENT ALEXANDER MARGARET WILKIE/ M LIFF, BENVIE AND INVERGOWRIE /ANGUS 301/00 0040 0348

I cannot however find a birth for Catherine :(


Tracey x

Jean,

Are you certain they are brothers with 21 years between them?

I did find a possible marriage of the parents? He was 30 she was 26.

1869 MOORE HENRY STEWART MARGARET TRADESTON GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/09 0216

Ahhhh.... Henry's birth....

1859 STEWART HENRY MOORE M HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/10 0933

OK, still hunting...

EDIT: found Alexander's birth and the marriage details on it matches. I suppose with Margaret being so young with the first child they chose to wait?

1880 MOORE ALEXANDER M ANDERSTON GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/10 0599


T x

Hey Chris,

Do you want to go back and double check, i am happy to search again for you :)

Tracey x

Curious about Chris's query -- Allen Grace? A male person? Grace is a fairly common woman's name in Cornwall/Devon.

Cornwall OPC site

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/searchdb.php?dbname=baptisms_nc

has, for instance:

Baptism Circuit: Penzance, Independent
Date: 06-Nov 1791
Where baptised: Penzance, Octagon Chapel
Name: Grace JOLLY
Father: Richard
Mother: Grace
Residence: Mevegissey

No 1800 Jolly baptism for similar given names there.

I see a Jolly baptism in St Allen parish. Could that be what the "Allen" means??

Tracey, I think it's my fault for copy and pasting, it's made it look like first name Allen instead of surname Allen.
Should be Grace Jolly Allen...

Chris :)

Chris,

This is the baptism you refer to?

Name Grace Jolly Allen
Event Type Baptism
Christening Date 12 Jan 1800
Christening Place Mevagissey, Cornwall
Father's Name James Allen
Mother's Name Priscilla Allen
Record Set RG4_0201

Ooh thankyou Tracey, I'm very grateful :-)

Lol, I'm now ducking, as can feel things being thrown through the screen from you and Janey, got a good excuse as I'm 50 something today, so brain not what it was yesterday, tee hee.
Great job your'e doing, sending a big star, colour to be chosen by you!, Lol.

Chris :)

(will note Janey's Info. too, Thankyou, have a star too!)

Tracey,
You are correct with the marriages and births for Henry and Margaret , they also had another son born before they married in 1866,

jean

Chris,

Your age makes you seasoned..... not old!!

The info i found was on the new beta site on Familysearch (the Mormon site)

beta.familysearch.org

It's free for anyone to search !

Tracey x

No prob, Chris -- while I was there I looked up a baptism I'd just found at pilot.familysearch ... for some reason, my grx2 grmother was running around baptising her kids years after they were born, and there's one in 1860 she managed to miss in 1857 when she did a batch of four. And she missed his younger brother who was only baptised as an adult in anticipation of death in 1872. If only I could find the parents' marriage ... non-marriage (and maybe non-paternity) may explain some of these baptisms, though. ;) Or maybe she just waited til non-believing dad moved to London ... The Cornwall OPC record has more info than pilot.familysearch does, so it was worth the trip!

Couldn't find any other events for your Allen people.

Still not finding them Jean :(


T x

James,

A little left of centre....

26/11/1756 ORR AGNES JAMES ORR/AGNES JAFFRAY FR1128 ST NINIANS /STIRLING 488/00 0030 0275

Possible for Agnes, i know she'd have been very old having the children, not unheard of tho?


Tracey x

T,

thanks for looking,
They're a right pain, been looking for them for years,

jean

Lol, Janey, Well I've never found a marriage for Grace to Thomas Draper...
First child Priscilla born in London 1825 (have details, her life done, and Grace's death in Cornwall 1881 as she went back home)

Nearest I've ever found was in Tewkesbury Glos. 1824 25th Feb. on IGI. (needs checking though)

(will have a look round on Cornwall OPC)

Chris :)

(might ask that Victor on 'Records', he's offering Glos. look ups, not something I normally do though is ask!)

Hi Tracey

Thanks for trying - and thanks for finding the parents marriage. :-))) This Catherine has proved to be very elusive. :-)))

Mary