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Please can anybody do a census look up for Alfred Stevens born Brighton but says IOW district, in 1818 died 1892 in brighton married Julia Bradley had a son also Alfred William Stevens. I Have them all on 1861/1871/1881 any help most appreciated

cannot see a marraige for Alfred and Julia either

jax

Thanx Jax
They are hard to find in those census's where was he hiding for 20 years. maybe he used Stephens who knows

What do you think?

1841 England Census
Name: Alfred Stephens
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Gender: Male
Where born: Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Carisbrooke
Hundred: Isle of Wight Division West Medina Liberty
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: Carisbrooke Road

Occupation: Painter

Registration district: Isle of Wight
Sub-registration district: Newport
Household Members:
Name Age
Garse Stephens 40 [Isaac on image. I can't make out his occupation; H__maker?]
Frances Stephens 40
Caroline Stephens 20
Louisa Stephens 19
Alfred Stephens 17
Edwin Stephens 14
Charles Stephens 12





1851 England Census
Name: Isaac Stephens
Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1795
Relation: Father-in-Law
Spouse's name: Frances Stephens
Gender: Male
Where born: Isle of Wight, Brading
Civil parish: Carisbrooke
Ecclesiastical parish: Carisbrooke St John
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: Carisbrooke Road

Occupation: Lace Maker

Registration district: Isle Of Wight
Sub-registration district: Newport
Household schedule number: 106
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Dore 28 - Lace Maker J.
Louisa Dore 28
George H Dore 5
Frances L Dore 3
Caroline A Dore 1
Isaac Stephens 56
Frances Stephens 55 - Laundress; St Helens, IOW

Why do you think that he was born in Brighton? Does the name Bradley come from one of the children's birth certificates?


Alfred Stevens
Age: 62
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Julia Stevens
Gender: Male
Where born: Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address: 18 Park Crescent Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Carpenter
Registration district: Brighton
Sub-registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Stevens 62
Julia Stevens 38
Alfred Stevens 14

1871-1891, born in Isle of Wight.


Ozi

Interesting, in 1871 there is a one month Julia Stevens. However no Julia Stevens/variant registered in Brighton for March or June quarters.


Ozi

Where did you find them in 1861? I presume you mean you've found Alfred & Julia as the children weren't born in1861.

Were Julia and Alfred together?

Have you got Alfred jnr's birth cert? If so what was his mother's maiden name.

Ozi

Hi ozi kiwi here ,
Well hes proving very hard to find isnt he1871 he is with Julia says he was born IOW aged 53 carpenter Son aged 6 and daughter Julia 1month ,not on the 1881 so presumed died young cant find marriage cert Julia was born in brighton daughter of a surgeon Thomas Bradley and the story in the family is her family disowned her because she married beneath her. He was a lot older than her.

Alfred jnr mother Julia Bradley born brighton

Hi the age of Alfred doesnt quite match up , but a possibility thank you

Thank you all ozibird, astra, and jax for the help will have to spread the net wider I think. Will keep looking

OK, So here's Julia in 1841. Methinks she's lied about her age for some reason. Also she gets younger with every census, born 1847 in 1901.

Also, all of them were not born in the county except for Esther.

1841 England Census
Name: Julia Bradley
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Gender: Female
Civil parish: Brighthelmstone
Hundred: Brighthelmstone
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address: Western Road

Occupation:

Registration district: Brighthelmstone
Sub-registration district: Palace
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos Bradley 45 - surgeon
Georgiana Bradley 40
Thomas Bradley 15
Louisa Bradley 14
Caroline Bradley 12
Eliza Bradley 9
Mary Bradley 8
Julia Bradley 6
William Bradley 4
Esther Bradley 2


Fallen on hard times. I don't think they had any reason to disown her. A prosperous surgeon would have his son in school, and his wife being a lady.

1851 England Census
Name: Julia Bradley
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Georgenia Bradley
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Brighthelmstone
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Brighton
Sub-registration district: The Palace
Household Members:
Name Age
Georgenia Bradley 53 - wife, Head absent; Miliner; London
Julia Bradley 15
Ester Bradley 11
William Bradley 10 - Errand Boy
All children born Brighton.




1861 England Census
Name: Julia Bradley
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Georgeanna Bradley
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address: 11 Frederick St

Occupation: Needlewoman

Registration district: Brighton
Sub-registration district: St Peter
Household Members:
Name Age
Georgeanna Bradley 64 - widow; needlewoman
Julia Bradley 24


Deaths Mar 1869
BRADLEY Georgina Louisa C 72 Brighton 2b 156

Here is Julia's brother.

IGI Individual Record
THOMAS DUNSTALL BRADLEY
Christening: 03 SEP 1823 Saint Mary, Lambeth, London, England
Parents:
Father: THOMAS BRADLEY
Mother: GEORGIANA LOUISA CONSTANTIA


Marriages Sep 1849
Bradley Thomas Dunstall Brighton 7 385 <<<<<
Coultrup William Brighton 7 385
Elliott William Brighton 7 385
Postlethwaite Mary Ann Brighton 7 385 <<<<<
Potter Caroline Brighton 7 385
Vigor James Brighton 7 385
Walters Margaret Brighton 7 385
Wheeler Margaret Brighton 7 385


1851 England Census
Name: Thomas Bradley
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann Bradley
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England
Civil parish: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address: 4 Regent Street

Occupation: Patent Medicine vendor

Registration district: Brighton
Sub-registration district: St Peter
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Bradley 28
Mary Ann Bradley 20 - upholsteress; Brighton


I think the skeleton in the cupboard may be to do with her father who is absent in 1851, dead in 1861, but no sign of him or his death.

This is a possibility but why have "wife" and "head absent" in 1851?
Deaths Sep 1846
Bradley Thomas Brighton 7 224

No wonder I couldn't find the other siblings.

Name: Diana Louisa Bradley
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 07 Jan 1827
Baptism/Christening Place: OLD CHURCH,SAINT PANCRAS,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 22 Mar 1825
Father's Name: Thomas Bradley
Mother's Name: Georgiana Louisa Constantine

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04793-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 598164


Name: Frances Caroline Bradley
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Sep 1827
Baptism/Christening Place: Peterborough, Northampton, England
Father's Name: Thomas Bradley
Mother's Name: Georgiann ... Constantia

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I00729-7
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 6128586
Reference Number: yr 1827-1838 p 19
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


Name: John Frederic Bradley
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 15 Feb 1829
Baptism/Christening Place: Peterborough, Northampton, England
Father's Name: Thomas Bradley
Mother's Name: Georgeana Louisa Constantia

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I00729-7
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 6128586
Reference Number: yr 1827-1838 p 57
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975



Name: Mary Braddely
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 1832
Baptism/Christening Place: GODMANCHESTER, HUNTINGDONSHIRE, ENGLAND
Father's Name: Thomas Braddely
Mother's Name: Georgianna

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C39383-2
System Origin: England-VR
Source Film Number: 1040994
Reference Number: - 2:2RMMFMD
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


Name: Julia Georgina Bradley
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 17 Jan 1852 - same date as her sister
Baptism/Christening Place: Brighton, Sussex, England
Father's Name: Thomas Bradley
Mother's Name: Georgina Bradley

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01354-9
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1067111
Reference Number: item 1 p 272
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


Name: Hester Con Bradley
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 17 Jan 1852
Baptism/Christening Place: Brighton, Sussex, England
Father's Name: Thomas Bradley
Mother's Name: Georgina Bradley

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01354-9
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1067111
Reference Number: item 1 p 272
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Marriages Jun 1857
Bradley Esther Constance Newington 1d 221 <<<<
CALAZ Peter John Baptist Newington 1d 221
Davis Sarah Elizabeth Newington 1d 221
Lush Thomas Joseph Newington 1d 221 <<<<


1861 England Census
Name: Ether Lush
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas J Lush
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil parish: St Luke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 8 John's Row

Registration district: St Luke
Sub-registration district: City Road
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas J Lush 28 - Furrier; St Bride, Middlesex
Ether Lush 21
Thomas L Lush 3
George W Lush 1



1871 England Census
Name: Ester C Lush
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas J Lush
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 243 Kingsland Road

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Haggerston West
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas J Lush 39 - Furrier
Ester C Lush 30
Thomas Lush 13
George Lush 11
Samuel Lush 6
Ester C Lush 6
John H Lush 6


Twins!
Births Dec 1864
LUSH Esther Constance Islington 1b 270
LUSH Samuel Robert Islington 1b 270

??
Births Mar 1869
Lush John Henry St. Luke 1b 714

Deaths Sep 1871
Lush Thomas Joseph 40 London C. 1c 20

Marriages Dec 1879
FOLLETT Henry Islington 1b 343
King Henry Islington 1b 343 <<<<<
LUSH Esther Islington 1b 343 <<<<<
Stafford Emma Islington 1b 343


1881 England Census
Name: Ester C. King
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Henry King
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton
Civil parish: St Marys Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Holloway Rd Slaney Place

Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington East
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry King 60 - Bricklayer
Ester C. King 41
Ester C. Lush 16
William Lush 6
Walter King 8 mo


It's becoming more unlikely that Julia's family disowned her. Not one of them made matches at their own "level".

Still no real proof of Alfred.

I'm worried that the Alfred Stephens I found on page 1 is this bloke.

1861 England Census
Name: Alfred Stephens
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Charlotte Stephens
Gender: Male
Where born: Isle of Wight, Carisbrooke
Civil parish: St German
Ecclesiastical parish: St German
Town: St German
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street Address: Police Station

Occupation: Superintendant of Police

Registration district: St Germans
Sub-registration district: St Germans

Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Stephens 34
Charlotte Stephens 37
Solomon Martin 27 - prisoner in custody accused of a felony


1871 England Census
Name: Alfred Stephens
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Charlotte Stephens
Gender: Male
Where born: Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Camborne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
Town: Camborne
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street Address: Moor St Police Station

Occupation: Superintendant of Police

Registration district: Redruth
Sub-registration district: Camborne

Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Stephens 45
Charlotte Stephens 47 - born Hampshire


Retired from the police.
1881 England Census
Name: Alfred Stephens
Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Charlotte Stephens
Gender: Male
Where born: Carisbrooke, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Carisbrooke
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: 31 Castle Road

Condition as to marriage: Married


Occupation: Wine Merchant (Employing 3 Hands)

Registration district: Isle Of Wight
Sub-registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Stephens 56
Charlotte Stephens 58 - Carisbrooke, Hampshire

Marriages Sep 1850
Attrill Caroline Wight I 8 384
JOHNSTON Henrietta I of Wight 8 384
Kelleway Thomas Wight I of 8 384
Stark Charlotte I of Wight 8 384 <<<<<
Stephens Alfred I of Wight 8 384 <<<<<
Wearn George Wight I 8 384
Wearne George Wight I. 8 384
White Jane I of Wight 8 384
Young John I of Wight 8 384


However he is here in 1851.
1851 England Census
Name: Alfred Stephens
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Charlotte Stephens
Gender: Male
Where born: Isle of Wight; Newport, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Alverstoke
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: none recorded

Occupation: Police Constable

Registration district: Alverstoke
Sub-registration district: Alverstoke
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Stephens 26
Charlotte Stephens 28

Hi Ozi
My you have been busy, thank you so much.
I have him in 1871 married to julia in Brighton with 2 children so dont think the 1871 IOW is the right one. also in1881 and 1891. He was recorded as being a carpenter.
I wonder if he was in London when he met her and married her there. Not in brighton at all. There is another Alfonsa Stephens in the IOW parents Issac and Louisa Stephens he was a carpenter but the age doesn,t match too closely.
Oh dear Im getting really frustrated with this man, Ill go back and check them again thank you again
Jenny