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same family in 1841. Ages of adults were rounded up or down to nearest five years, and relationships bewteen persons in a household not given:

Name: William Halsey
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: St Stephens
Hundred: Cashio
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: St Albans
Sub-registration district: St Albans
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Halsey 45 c1796 Hertfordshire, England. Ag lab.
Ann Halsey 45 c1796 Hertfordshire, England.
William Halsey 15 Ag lab
Samuel Halsey 12 Ditto.
Elizabeth Halsey 9

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The Dorothy born to Edith frances Guy nee Weeks and Frank Edward Guy was down as Doris Guy born 1903 hornsea London.

Maryb
I can't seem to find the marriage of Herbert and Dorothy on Ancestry.co.uk

That's interesting. So how did she get baptised in 1902, if she was born in 1903?

Her birthdate was given as April 4th on the register for 1902, and her baptism date for May 4th.

I wouldn't take much notice of the year out,it often happens.

Maryb.
The problem is i don't think Dorothy Guy is Dorothy E V Bower we are looking for.

1841 census records were supposed to be rounded DOWN to multiples of 5 for adults. In some areas the actual age is listed.

I agree Dorothy isn't the girl we're looking for, though neirther is she the Dorothy Eleanor V Guy I found in 1899, if born in 1902 or 1903. Anyway, a red herring.

Marriages:
Bower Dorothy E V Halsey Willesden 3a 683 OND 1925.
Halsey Herbert Bower Willesden 3a 683 OND 1925.

FBMD beats Ancestry then?

Who were the witnesses at the marriage please? Any possible members of Dorothy's family please?

EDIT

If that is the correct death that Mary posted earlier, I think we should be trying to work back from that. Dorthy seems to have dropped the "Eleanor" in later life if that is correct. So she could have just as easily "adopted" it prior to her marriage.

Just a reminder of the death Mary posted earlier.


Death??
Dorothy Victoria Halsey born 9/4/1897 died June 1964 Kingston upon Thames

A refresher of the marriage certificate:

3rd December 1925, Willesden

Herbert Halsey age 27/ bachelor/ Hotel Porter/178 Kilburn Park Road / Father: John Halsey (deceased) No profession given.

Dorothy Eleanor Victoria Bower age 25 /spinster/ -- / 178 Kilburn Park Road / Father: William Charles Bower (deceased) No profession given.

Witnesses: Rose Moore and Daisy Webb.

This maybe going nowhere,but i thought I would post it anyway.

Eleanor Dorothy P Bower born A/M/J 1900 3a 937 Headington Oxfordshire.

Death 1918 for a William C Bower in headington age given 57 = 1861.

1901 Headington Oxfordshire
William Bower 1861 a plasterer
Lucy 1862 Kent nee Funnell married William Charles Bower 1880
William Charles 1887
Frederick 10
Henry 4
Ellen 1 could she be Eleanor?

I can't find any of them in 1911.

Could Dorothy be Eleanor Dorothy!!!!!!!

Maryb

Might the name on the m.cert be Bowen?

Anyway, I found these in 1911 (searched for Do* Bowe?):
HOUSEHOLD BOWEN DOROTHY E F 1899 12 Cardiff Glamorganshire
HOUSEHOLD BOWEN DOROTHY ELLEN F 1900 11 New Forest Hampshire
HOUSEHOLD BOWER VICTORIA DORTHAY F 1901 10 Basford Nottinghamshire

Re mgnv's 1911 entries

Victoria Dorthay 1901 has father Thomas Bowen 1849 Coal miner.

Dorothy Ellen Bowen 1900 had father Edwin Bowen 1867 carriage painter.

Dorothy E Bowen 1899 had father James Evans Bowen 1869 Guard.

I had wondered myself if Bower was mistranscribed, and had tried looking for Dorothy in 1901 & 1911 as Bowes as well as Bower, but to no avail.

Thanks everyone. Seems I've truly reached a dead end where Dorothy Bower is concerned. Perhaps she was even born overseas, which would make things really difficult I suppose!
Thanks again for your help everyone, I really appreciate it.

Possible marriage for William Halsey c1827 and Eliza?

Daughter Ann was aged 5 in census 1861, so would be about right for that, and his father is a John Halsey.

Name: William Halsey
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Spouse Name: Eliza Dollery
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Apr 1854
Parish: St Marylebone
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: John Halsey
Spouse Father Name: William Dollery

William Halsey bach, of full age, carman, of Marylebone St, son of John Halsey, labourer, married after banns Eliza Dollery, spinster, of full age, of trinity District, daur of William Dollery labourer. Witnesses Ed. Speller & Maria Beachey.

VivaMoz

Was that the correct death for Dorothy that Mary posted please?

Mary's death for Dorothy looks as close as you're going to get:

Name: Dorothy Victoria Halsey
Birth Date: 9 Apr 1897
Death Registration Month/Year: Jun 1984
Age at death (estimated): 87
Registration district: Kingston Upon Thames
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 13
Page: 1891

I did find another person called Dorothy Eleanor V, but surname Clarke born c1899 (probably the Guy girl)

Name: Dorothy Eleanor V Clarke
Birth Date: 8 Sep 1899
Death Registration Month/Year: 1982
Registration district: Merton
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 14
Page: 0882

and this marriage, could Dorothy have remarried????

Name: Dorothy E Hulsey
Spouse Surname: Clarke
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1939
Registration district: Willesden
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 1575
Spouse: Leonard H Clarke Hulsey Oct-Nov-Dec 1939 Willesden Middlesex .

Hope this doesn't confuse the issue further!
The date of birth given for Dorothy Clarke does tie in with the birth of Dorothy Eleanor V Guy OND 1899, but might just be a co-incidence. The name Hulsey on the marriage could be a mistranscription of Halsey? I did note it was in the Willesden district, but can't find a corresponding death for Herbert Halsey.

Might be back to the drawing board again, as Dorothy Guy also married a Clarke.

I am interested in that Hulsey marriage in Willesden though.

Name: Dorothy E V Guy
Spouse Surname: Clarke
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1930
Registration district: Croydon
Registration county (inferred): Surrey
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 884
Spouse:Richard E Clarke Guy Oct-Nov-Dec 1930 Croydon Surrey

Yes that does look interesting! I can't see a birth for a Dorothy E Hulsey between 1890 and 1923. So it does look like a re-marriage?

Good morning!
I'm afraid I don't know what happened to Dorothy Bower after her marriage to Herbert, except they had two children - Dennis Herbert Halsey (1927 - not on freebmd) and Doreen Halsey in 1933.
After that I don't know what happened to her.

Birth:
Name: Dennis H Halsey
Mother's Maiden Surname: Bower
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1927
Registration district: Paddington
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 107


Death:
Name: Dennis Herbert Halsey
Birth Date: 20 Feb 1927
Death Registration Month/Year: Sep 1984
Age at death (estimated): 57
Registration district: Newport
Inferred County: Glamorgan, Monmouthshire, Shropshire, Staffordshire
Volume: 28
Page: 529

Edited to add Dennis married 1957 and Doreen probably married 1955. Could pm details if you like - spouses & Doreen might be alive so don't like to put on public forum.

Kucinta - I have sent you a PM!