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Mamie
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1 Jul 2010 21:41 |
I recieved information from my Great aunt on the family tree. I have been told that william white (1796- 1870) married Hannah Phillips (1801-1837) and they had 5 or more children: William ~ 1821 Charles ~ 1827 Jane ~ 1834 Harriet ~ 1835 I also have my Direct line which shows a marrage between Mary ann White (1824-1890) and Thomas White (c1822- 1868) however i am unsure of which is williams and Hannahs child. Any information would be helpful and if more information is needed just ask
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patchem
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1 Jul 2010 23:28 |
Do you know where on the Isle of Wight, and whether they moved away from there in later censuses? How accurate are the dates? Thank-you
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1 Jul 2010 23:32 |
OK, for background:
1861 England Census Thomas White Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1822 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Isle of Wight, Niton (Kiton??) Civil parish: Brading Town: Brading County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Isle Of Wight Sub-registration district: Ryde ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Household schedule number: 43 Thomas White 39 ag lab Mary White 36 Frank White 17 William White 10 Emma White 6 Tom White 4 Alice M White 1 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 659; Folio: 51; Page: 8; GSU roll: 542680.
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Mike *
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1 Jul 2010 23:36 |
Possible marriage ??? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages Dec 1838 BRETT Harriet Isle of Wight 8 325 BUCKETT Maria Isle of Wight 8 325 VANNER Charles Isle of Wight 8 325 Wallis Sophia Ann Isle of Wight 8 325 >>>>>>>>>>WHITE Thomas Isle of Wight 8 325 WICKENS Jacob Isle of Wight 8 325 WOODMORE Isaac Isle of Wight 8 325 >>>>>>>>>>>WOODS Mary Ann Isle of Wight 8 325
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1 Jul 2010 23:40 |
Son's birth ?
Births Jun 1842 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- White Thomas Isle of Wight 8 224
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patchem
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1 Jul 2010 23:42 |
I think it is White: 1851 England Census Thomas Wright Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1824 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Isle of Wight, Niton Civil parish: Brading Town: Brading County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Occupation: ag lab Sub-registration district: Ryde ED, institution, or vessel: 4c Household schedule number: 102 Thomas Wright 27 Mary Wright 25 Frank Wright 7 Willm John White 1 Mo Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1664; Folio: 403; Page: 24; GSU roll: 193571.
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Mike *
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1 Jul 2010 23:43 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WILLIAM WHITE Male Marriages: Spouse: HANNAH PHILLIPS Marriage: 19 OCT 1820 Newchurch, Hampshire, England
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patchem
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1 Jul 2010 23:47 |
1841 not completely clear, but possibly: 1841 England Census Thomas White Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Gender: Male Where born: Hampshire, England Civil parish: Brading Hundred: Isle of Wight Division East Medina Liberty County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address: Rowborough Lane?? Occupation: ag lab Registration district: Isle of Wight Sub-registration district: Ryde Elizabeth White 50 labourer Thomas White 15 Henry White 13 Ellen White 10 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 405; Book: 5; Civil Parish: Brading; County: Hampshire; Enumeration District: 17; Folio: 28; Page: 12; Line: 20; GSU roll: 288805.
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patchem
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1 Jul 2010 23:54 |
Births Mar 1844 WHITE Frank Henry I of Wight 8 234 Births Dec 1844 WHITE Frank I of Wight 8 238
Births Mar 1851 White William John I. of Wight 8 270
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patchem
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1 Jul 2010 23:59 |
Do you mean this marriage: Marriages Dec 1844 CLACY Robert William Salkeld Basingstoke 7 125 WHITE Elizabeth Basingstoke 7 125 xxxxxWHITE Mary Ann Basingstoke 7 125 xxxxxxWHITE Thomas Basingstoke 7 125 which is Basingstoke, not IOW? Have I the wrong family in 1851 and 1861? Have you got birth and marriage certificates with parents names? Thank-you
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Vicci
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2 Jul 2010 00:00 |
this is a submitted record , treat with caution
Harriet WHITE Pedigree Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 20 NOV 1835 Brading,Iow, , Hampshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: William WHITE Family Mother: Hannah PHILLIPS Messages: Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter. Source Information:
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patchem
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2 Jul 2010 00:15 |
I can find Harriet (born Brading, living at Carisbroke) in a workhouse in 1851, and as a servant in 1861, but not definite in 1841, birth 1833 and 1834.
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patchem
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2 Jul 2010 06:55 |
Mamie, Is what we have put accurate, and is it what you already know? Where did the dates of the children come from? Is this claimed marriage of Mary ann White (1824-1890) and Thomas White (c1822- 1868) the one at Basingstoke, or did Michael find the correct? (because they cannot both be right) You have put 'if more information is needed just ask'- we are. Thanks
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Chris in Sussex
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2 Jul 2010 08:51 |
This looks a possibility for the 1861 info.
Marriage WHITE, Thomas and SIMMONDS, Mary 1843 St Mary, Brading
Births WHITE, Frank, Henry 1844 SIMMONDS Ryde WHITE, William, John 1851 SIMMONDS Ryde WHITE, Emma 1855 SIMMONDS Ryde WHITE, Tom 1857 SIMMONDS Ryde WHITE, Alice, Mary 1860 SIMMONDS Ryde
From IOW FHS Site http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/index.htm
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Mamie
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4 Jul 2010 21:28 |
Unfortuately i am so sorry i am currently visiting my father for the week i'm on my mums genesreunited and the Whites are my fathers side. The information i have for the marrage of thomas and Mary are: Register Office, Nonconformist or RC Church 1859 And they only had one son which was isacc white which suggest thats a different family sorry
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Mamie
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4 Jul 2010 21:34 |
Hi Victoria, That would appear to be The same harriet thankyou very much can i ask if u have any other information on the white and if you are of any relation. Thankyou
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Mamie
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4 Jul 2010 21:48 |
Hi Patricia, I am currently away therefore have had little time to be on here everyone's messages have been helpful the dates of the children are from a distant family member who helped me get started. I am on the isle of wight at the moment therefore am hoping to learn more and have been requiring some photographs and documents from family so i am aware of which documents i need. I am rather certain they didnt not marry anywhere but the isle of wight. Thomas and Mary ann's marrage is registered as Thomas and Ann in 1859 i believe as she is on some census under both Mary and Ann. Hope that makes more sense
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patchem
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4 Jul 2010 22:37 |
Marriages Mar 1859 Kingswell Henry I Wight 2b 670 Morris Ann I Wight 2b 670 xxxxxWhite Ann I Wight 2b 670 xxxxxWhite Thomas I Wight 2b 670 Certificate will have Father's names on it,
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patchem
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4 Jul 2010 22:48 |
When was Isaac White born? Thanks
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4 Jul 2010 22:58 |
Isaac John Long White 1846 Information given in new thread: Son of Mary Ann White i am wondering about his father as He is given Mary's maiden name and although Mary later went on to Marry Thomas White it is known that he is not the father. The story through the family was that Isacc was the illigitament child of a married man whom Mary had an affair with. Thomas and Mary Married in 1859 when Isacc was 13 this has come to light however others members of the family believed Isaac was their child. i wondered if anyone else had some information for me?
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